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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:43 PM Original message |
I just saw Sicko for the first time |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wish you would give people a reason to agree with you and affirm what you |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Every candidate besides Kucinich openly does not support single payer |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. But every candidate's supporters besides Kucinich's will also be voting |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Maybe it's time to stop settiling for corporatist candidates and vote for the real deal? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I urge you to vote for Kucinich if he calls to your heart and mind. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. The plan is to never stop asking for a pony-- |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I understand that point and urge you to go for the pony at the polls but |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. If we ask for single payer, we might wind up with something like Edwards proposes |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Your argument of exclusivity by degree is not persuasive. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. If you look at the Pew polls, consensus has already been reached |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I don't think you have a real good sense of how legislation is forged |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Ask for 676 as is |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Forward progress on a difficult challenge is going to take a team effort. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You get something closer to what you want by ASKING for what you want |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. No, "on the other hand," right? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, it is an eye opener |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. I fully support HR 676 .. but I don't feel I have the luxury of being a one-issue |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I plan on voting on the sell out candidate in the General |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. So people voting for candidates other than your favorite are "idiotic" and |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:37 AM Original message |
It has nothing to do with being my favorite, |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
19. But your post did not argue for abstention. It argued for exclusivity on |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. I doubt that Paul Krugman |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Sorry, but that's a misread. Krugman works for an establishmentarian |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. It has nothing to do with being my favorite, |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why is Dennis "not likely" to be President? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You're quite right to claim the race is volatile. But I do not believe |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. The way we GET there is to never stop demanding it |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Some other voting issues to consider when thinking of DK, |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's a good flick worth seeing but it's not completely accurate... |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. HR 676 has 86 cosponsors and it needs your vote |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Only one of our 8 candidates will be the nominee. Simple math. That means |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Crusoe, you crack me up. Hope you are doing well tonight :-) n/t |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Hi, K Gardner. I'm doing well this evening, thanks, but I'm not doing as well |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Having a universal health care plan does not mean |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No, Pat! That's wrong. I agree with you, and nevertheless we're idiotic. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. The problems are so big and so complex |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I'm sorry but these "businesses" are killing people |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I saw it and I agree with what you're saying |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. You know what - there is something called critical mass - and I think |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Yes, and the fight is going to be as difficult as it is worth undertaking. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. An idea has to be propelled by action |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. People have been acting for quite a while |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes, it has |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. There it is. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. They sure the hell didn't get it by refusing to demand it n/t |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I am pissed off at supporters of other candidates |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Well, penguin, you'll just have to stay angry. |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Fine, let us all get along and continue with our crappy government |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Penguin.... go here... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. We ARE the government. "We the people..." it says right there on the paper. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. We CAN demand better, but we have to be IN a position to demand it. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Agree. That dialogue is the path through the woods. Very well stated. |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. let us be clear in our language |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. What part of "free AT THE POINT OF SERVICE" is it that you don't understand? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
33. Hey I just saw it too |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
37. You got that one right !! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
44. For those who enjoy the blogspins out of TPM, here's a good health care |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. You're wrong |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. There was a deeper message to the movie |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
47. Explain how anyone could get a government-run single payer system passed in Congress |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. it's a powerful movie |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. You' have to be able to get enough Repubs on board to avoid a filibuster... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'll echo the Nurses' Association |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
58. well, that's a odd premise |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
63. going to watch it this weekend.... |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
66. Here's a good way to pass Sicko on to others....... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
67. Bill Clinton asked Harvey Weinstein (The Producer) to edit out Hillary's Healthcare footage |
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