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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM Original message |
The only ones who think electability doesn't matter are the unelectable |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. I hate to say it, but I agree with you.... |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. and I agree with everything Joe says too |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. LOL... |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Obama is not electable in 2008. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. So far he seems to be doing quite well in the "game called Presidental Politics" |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Winning the GE is all that counts |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. But if you can't win the primary, you don't have a lot of chance of winning the GE |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. They are two different ballgames |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Hillary is failing at everyturn |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If you think she is fighting tough you are fooling yourself |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yeah, I bet she'd rather lose the nomination instead of giving it everything she's got |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yes. she'd rather lose than destroy Democratic chance in the GE |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You're living in a complete fantasy |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. No they did not |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. They sure enough did. |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. McGovern was my first back when I really was naive |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Then you should know better. |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Finally you get it. I do know better than to support the |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's the damn "elitists" that are doing this to us. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama isn't a genuine progressive and doesn't have lengthy political experience |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Obama is whatever he needs to be at the moment.. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. if trending upwards in polling is "losing" in Clinton-speak |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Perhaps you missed it, but this poll, from 2003, was posted on this board... |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It confirms my point that the "inevitable" candidate ain't so inevitable after all. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Which wouldn't exclude Obama either. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Obama has overcome double digit differences and was always the long shot. |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Obama only beat Alan Keyes. That's it. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Obama has overcome her double-digit leads in this race. |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. She never said she was |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. b.s. Her campaign complained to David Corn that Obama was UPPITY |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. That's not even true |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. good evening ms. maddiejoan |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It is true and it did come from the Clinton camp. Here's what Corn had to say: |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. A senior democratic aide is not the campaign |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. ya keep kicking that can down the road and see what that gets you |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Would lord helmet be from the dark side perhaps |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. ya keep telling Demcrats that don't support Hillary they are freepers |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. In other words |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. in other words your candidate has been caught with her panties around her ankles |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You're not very good at this. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Freakin' unbelievable ain't it? |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Maybe Obama: the new Moses -- |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. lol |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sorry, but 50% of Americans ALREADY won't support Hillary in the general |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yep, electability is what it's about. |
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Rock_Garden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. She's electable, highly electable. We will elect her. |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. It used to be that some votes were cast before electability was decided |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Thank Rupert and the Fox Street Journal |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. NewHampster, we already have a seat for you in the Obama Train. |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Mrs. NH keeps inviting me over |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Mrs. NH is right. You need to listen to the right woman, and that's her |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Mrs. NH was only right once |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Hey, you that are actually there, |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. My sense is that Hillary still has it |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Thanks, I have faith in NH. |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. this is so interesting |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. Hillary supporters are apparently irony-impaired |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No, Hillary's the most electable |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Actually, the media and most voters are lazy |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Will it lose out to-- |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. But that's not how the media is playing those guys. |
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weeve (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
62. Ummmm HELLO ... |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. Hillary, Shut the fuck up |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Hillary: "Same to you, pal." |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
65. It's fun watching the "unelectable" meme come back to bite Obama. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
66. Well said, NH. It's nice to think how quickly Hillary has gone from "polarizing" & "unelectable" |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
67. The best way to get a lie started is tell a lie against HRC and |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. and they still don't get it |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
70. K&R! |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
71. On what planet is Hillary more electable in a general election. Edward, then Obama, then Hillary (in |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Planet Earth |
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