Obama Makes No Sense?

[babylonsister]

Obama Makes No Sense?
by Zrarieh
Sat Dec 15, 2007 at 08:52:28 AM PST


If several months ago, I had decided to support Mike Huckabee, I would’ve been sitting on my couch right now and saying to myself: "Dems just don’t get it".

But "To know Obama is to love him". Once I jumped boats and became an Obama Republican, there’s no turning back.

But I'm not only a Republican For Obama, I’m a Republican Against Dirty Politics and I was mad as hell about Bill Clinton's comments on Charlie Rose, comparing Obama's experience with not only a TV commentator, but a plumber. As if being a State Senator, a civil rights lawyer, a constitutional law professor and touching lives as a community organizer are irrelevant experiences. How much more disgusting can this get?

If this is the kind of politics that Americans will have to endure for the next four years, then I might just consider committing suicide to register my protest.

There’s no doubt that a lot of people hate Hillary Clinton, but I don’t and I never have. I just hate their kind of politics. I acknowledge her qualifications, but I believe that America is in no position to lecture Iran or the Congo on Democracy if endorses dynasticism by electing another Clinton or Bush to the White House. It is almost saying that people like us who don’t have a great family name don’t stand a chance. There are lots of other fine I would've loved our former first lady to occupy.

Why I said earlier that Democrats don't get it is because Democratic nominees seem to be elected based on some kind of sensible calculation. It turns out most people who have been elected President of the United States, at least in the last 16 years didn’t make sense.

Electing Bill Clinton, a Governor from a small State, who had no national experience over a 2-term Vice President and incumbent President who was ready-to-lead-from-day-one, didn’t make sense. What the last two Democratic nominees (Gore and Kerry) have in common is that they were both very experienced, but got beaten by a candidate who didn’t make sense. And he sure as heck wasn’t 'ready-to-lead-from-day-one' in 2000. The guy didn’t even know about Sunnis and Shias.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/15/113440/41/612/422462

[MethuenProgressive]

1. HillHating kos stoops to the "dynasticism" canard?

:puke:

[Cameron27]

3. It was posted by a Republican for Obama,

who doesn't like Bill Clinton. Shocking.

[babylonsister]

4. I think it's very encouraging to see rethugs rethinking their politics and

would applaud anyone who can bring about that change.

[aquart]

5. Except we don't need Republican votes.

We need 13 million out of 42 million independent votes. That's all. We don't need one Republican vote.

[babylonsister]

7. So you'd discourage them? That's pretty narrow thinking. nt

[BeyondGeography]

10. We don't need them damned votes in the Congress, either

One party rule under Her Majesty will be so cool.

[goodgd_yall]

16. What?!

You really think it would be bad to have a totally Democratic Congress?!! If that ever came about it would be through the will of the people. That would be great, from my liberal Democratic viewpoint.

[jefferson_dem]

12. Now there's the old Democratic spirit.

Fuck wavering Repugs. We don't need their votes anyway. :eyes:

[goodgd_yall]

15. Republicans turning Democrat for the wrong reasons

No where does the person say they believe in tax reform to make the affluent pay their share of the tax burden, helping the poor and working poor, health care reform, etc. I personally don't want my party diluted by more centrists or right-of-center Democrats.

[Nedsdag]

13. kos doesn't like Obama either.

He's been quite critical of him as well.

[msongs]

2. we don't need any more bush/clinton presidents in my lifetime thanks nt

[aquart]

6. Wow, that meme is as ridiculous now as it has always been.

Because only ONE person can be hurt by it: the only serious woman candidate for president that we have ever had. And by making her seem like one of the guys, no one has to say WE DON'T WANT A WOMAN!!!

Isn't that ever so clever?

BTW, dynastic implies blood relationship. Is Hillary Bill's sister?

[babylonsister]

8. Baloney. You're making this about gender again, and it has nothing to do

with that. I'd vote for a woman any day, just not this woman.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. Dynastic means family relationship.

Passing a position of leadership from one spouse to another is every bit as dynastic as from a parent to child.

[goodgd_yall]

19. Read history---England's monarchy---now THAT's a dynasty. n/t

[Nedsdag]

14. I'm sick of YOUR meme.

You cannot criticize her because she's a woman. I want a serious woman candidate. One who isn't married to a former president.

If you actually read the dictionary, the word dynasty means a sequence of powerful leaders in the same family. The last I checked Bill and Hillary consider themselves a family.

[goodgd_yall]

18. Aquart's point is

that the dynasty crap has only come up now, when Hillary Clinton is running. No one said a peep when Georgie Porgie Junior was running. Don't kid yourself that misogyny isn't behind SOME people bringing up the "dynastic" argument.

[goodgd_yall]

17. Good post---too many DUers with blinders on about gender

Really, dissappointing...

[K Gardner]

9. This pretty much says it all:

"There’s no doubt that a lot of people hate Hillary Clinton, but I don’t and I never have. I just hate their kind of politics. I acknowledge her qualifications, but I believe that America is in no position to lecture Iran or the Congo on Democracy if endorses dynasticism by electing another Clinton or Bush to the White House."