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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:54 PM Original message |
How hard is it really, to just not use the words "shrill" or "cackle" |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. what wrong with accuracy |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Then accuracy must demand a fuller description of all the male |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Have at it. I haven't seen anyone say you can't critique male voices. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. what nonsense. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. and I have seen the tactic of limits and labels to intimidate critic |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I have no idea what you're talking about |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And I have no idea about what freepers say |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. On this subject |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. and you |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. let me try |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. LOL, now that is a good job. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. What your post says is true but "actions speak louder than words" don't |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Oh, you don't really want to go there. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Those words are always used to demean women |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. ditto... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Exactly |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've never thought those were accurate descriptions of her laugh. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. you just used those words to describe him in saying you wouldn't use those words |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You're kidding right? |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. ok, i will. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Unfortunately, Hillary-haters have very poor impulse control. |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. "Shrill" and "cackle" simply describe the tone of speech or laughter, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No they don't. Go take a college course on |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Bull flaming shit. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. I LIKE her laugh. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I'd much rather see her referred to as an empty pantsuit |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Someone DID accuse me of sexism over that. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Had that same experience |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. A lot of DUers are probably offended by being called "clueless", "flat out ignorant", |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. thank you |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Or, that, since I don't agree with the OP, I sound like a freeper |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. No problem |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. Consciousness raising; it's become a quaint term. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Absolutely. Cultures are like gardens |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. Deleted message |
Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. We were talking about the difference between plain old bile... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Nope. Only the racist ones. |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. But when you can find plenty of examples of people describing Kucinich, Biden, and Obama as "shrill" |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Have seen DK refered to as whimpy and elfish looking. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. One would think! The op believes everything is directed toward her. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Deleted message |
Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Oh you're welcome, |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Now, there you go very civil comment & you expect people to take |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. you really should have said "deserve it" "not deserver it", |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. And SEXIST. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. not hard at all |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Have chocolate instead. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. i would, but i'm watching my weight |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Hmm, sounds sorta, well... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. It is a blunt show of power, and will not be relinquished |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. It would be great if we lived in a culture that looked beyond superficial characteristics |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
41. In the interest of gender neutrality I will only refer to Hillary's "derisive" laugh and |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
45. Some seriously gender-neutral problem I have with some of the candidates |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. Don't care who laughs how; here's something to think about, but you won't laugh much |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Lunch time for the HRC supporters? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Hey, thanks for posting that, interesting that Hillary is standing alone |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Now, be fair. Richardson is in that line with all the Republicans |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You are right but actually, I forget about Richardson most of the time |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. And that is one of HIS marketing problems. He is forgettable |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. LOL, man, you are on target today. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. just the facts |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Good for you because those tactics are attempted for sure around |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Thank you. Been a pleasure to sing a little with you. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
57. I think I've made it quite clear that I will not parse words when talking about Hillary's voice |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Bravo |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. "ridiculous reactionaries" |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
59. No word should ever be stifled. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
64. Apparently pretty hard . . . |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Pehaps is it less your suggestion |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. No need to call her an "uppity woman" when so many euphemisms are available |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. My ears are not particularly sexist |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. If she stops being shrill and cackling |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Amen. Do Kucinich supporters claim bigotry and sexism when someone points out he is sorta odd? |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
69. self-delete |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
70. How about the Grand Poobah of Deception? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
73. It'd be interesting to see people who use these terms come up with other words. |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I'd always heard the word "cackle" to refer to a witch's laugh. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
76. Why are Hillary's supporters so obsessed with sexism |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. It keeps the converstation directed away from the big donor$ |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. We are talking about the highest office in the land |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
81. While were on the subject, using "gay" as a generalized put-down is offensive |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
82. You just did you those words to describe Edwards.. you must love Penn. |
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