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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 09:53 PM Original message |
"Present" = "No" |
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msongs
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Fri Dec-21-07 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. or you could just vote no and end it all as well nt |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But why does it matter? It doesn't matter. nt |
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Occam Bandage
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. So why ever vote "no?" |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Depends how strong a message you want to send and the nature of the bill. |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. The "present" votes were on "gotcha" bills by the GOP. |
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durrrty libby
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Tripe |
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sniffa
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. fascinating |
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indimuse
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. OH YEAH... |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama himself said "You must vote yes or no on whatever bill comes up," |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Right. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. So, was Obama lying then, or now? |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. He wasn't lying then or now, as I have explained fully. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Present. |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. We aren't voting on a bill in the Illinois state legislature. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. "You must vote yes or no on whatever bill comes up," |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Correct. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Too funny, you posted a 'Pass'! |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You aren't making any sense, just laughing hysterical. |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. You are only interested in attacking Obama with daily Mark Penn talking points |
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indimuse
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. “If you are worried about your next election, the present vote gives you political cover,” |
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MNDemNY
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Sat Dec-22-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. If t's the "same" then vote no for crissake! |
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indimuse
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. SO WHAT ARE THR RULES IN WASHINGTON DC?? |
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maximusveritas
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. You are misrepresenting what he said in the book |
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Lucinda
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nope. And it's not a non-issue, not to me anyway. |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. This is a smear campaign. |
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Lucinda
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Did you read the article? |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I did. |
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Lucinda
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Sat Dec-22-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. I see facts, pro AND con, and you see smears. Glad you find it useful though. |
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Nailzberg
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Thanks for the link, I sent my first correction to the NYT |
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LostinVA
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. Then, have a spine and vote no |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. See reply #17 |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. How does voting "no" show more of a "spine" |
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LostinVA
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It shows a definitive stance |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Voting "present" shows a definitive stance. |
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sam sarrha
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. it is also a way to vote YES on something that'd make you look like a ReThug, if your vote is not |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That is factually incorrect. |
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durrrty libby
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Wow. You sure need to invest a lot of time defending such a small |
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sam sarrha
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. if the opposition has one vote over a tie and you vote present, the Thugs win, |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's not how Obama voted. |
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Nailzberg
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Incorrect. The IL General Assembly does not work that way. |
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CTLawGuy
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Sat Dec-22-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. forget it |
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indimuse
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Barack Obama announced his support for President Bush's bid to expand the North American Free Trade |
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opihimoimoi
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Sat Dec-22-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. Obama will lose the Gen by a large margin because of the Pub Surge |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sat Dec-22-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
39. Baloney. "Present "is a chicken's way of getting out of taking a stand |
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mtnsnake
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Sat Dec-22-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
40. I don't blame you for wanting to "please end this non-issue controversy now", teacher |
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indimuse
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Sat Dec-22-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. SHUT UP!!!!!! |
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