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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:28 PM
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The similarities of Barack Obama and JFK can be pretty convincing
Tonight, some DU members found the time and effort to produce lame push polls dissing Obama on the JFK factor and a thread or two questioning why anyone dare come up with the comparison between Barack Obama and JFK.

Personally, I have seen many politicians speak in person and have only seen films of JFK. The nearest I've come to seeing a Kennedy in person was seeing Ted Kennedy a few times in 2004, and he had the Kennedy magic with a crowd.

I've seen Barack Obama in person and he is certainly an amazing, charasmatic speaker who can energize a large crowd. Three people fainted at the speech I saw him at in Madison last October.

Whether he's the "next JFK" or the "next RFK" or "very MLK" is something I'll leave for others to say. In my view, Obama is fantastic in his own right and I refuse to pigeonhole him as someone else who has already been around.

But since it seems to be a sore subject for some, here's an article that spells out the notion, namely from Ted Sorenson, who knew JFK directly:



“Both Kennedy and Obama have fantastically winning smiles and I might say both are very relaxed in front of an audience and on television," he said in an interview. "They don’t shout into a microphone, they talk.

"The principles, the values Obama and Kennedy are enunciating are not five-point plans for new health care programmes, which is more Hillary's style."

The Kennedy legacy and the aura of Camelot have been powerful but largely unspoken themes underpinning the campaign of Mr Obama, another charismatic Harvard alumnus heralding a new era in politics.

Mr Kennedy broke down the barrier of becoming the first Roman Catholic president while Mr Obama is vying to become the first black occupant of the Oval Office.

(snip)

"He has great judgment, which he has demonstrated in his position against the Iraq war even before it started.

"Judgment is the single most important criterion for selecting a president. At the time of the <1962> Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy's powers of judgment were tested as no president has ever been tested. Fortunately for all of us, he really came up with the right answers. He was 45. Obama's 46 so he's an old geezer."

Mr Sorensen's eyes are now failing him but when he is at an Obama rally the message, mannerisms and atmosphere make it seem like the 1960 campaign once again.

"I've heard a lot of high pitched shrieks of approval, which I assume were coming from young women," he said. "I'm told the phenomenon known as leapers has returned.

"In Kennedy's case, along the motorcade route young women would levitate themselves to be able to see over the heads of taller people as he was driven by.

"There was excitement and enthusiasm that went into that leap as well as his good looks. It's interesting they report leaper sightings when Obama appears."

But perhaps the thing that most makes Mr Obama, the first-term Illinois senator, "on track" to become the new Mr Kennedy is his determination to transform American politics.

"There's a sense in this country that Washington badly needs to be changed. The election of Obama will not only change the players in Washington, it'll change the game itself."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/12/wobama112.xml


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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:31 PM
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1. Obligatory Quote: Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy nt.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:32 PM
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2. He's also no Tricky Dick Nixon.
:P
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:35 PM
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3. That would be a reasonable thing to say if Obama said he was like JFK...
...which he has never said.

The "obligatory quote" is from Lloyd Bentsen smacking Dan Quayle down:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWY

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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:39 PM
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5. I remember it well
Dan Quayle (of all people) talking about his experience and suitability for Veep.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:37 PM
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4. Obligatory hit-and-run from one of Hill's Shills, I see...
:eyes:

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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:41 PM
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6. You would be wrong.
I find these JFK, RFK comparisons way over done.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 11:02 PM
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8. If you read what I wrote...
...you'd find that comparisons to JFK, RFK, MLK, etc. is for those that want to do that. I think Obama stands on his own as his own person.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 10:42 PM
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7. Nice try...but bullshit happens
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 11:02 PM
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9. As evidenced by the vast majority of your posts here. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 11:10 PM
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10. obama has some of the same magic as did john.
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 11:12 PM by madrchsod
i remember my sister became political in 59-60 with the rise of kennedy into the national spotlight. with me it was bobby who really restored my faith in the democratic party. i will grant that obama has some of the personality of the kennedy`s but the times were different with john and we will never know with bobby. actually obama reminds me a lot like jessie jackson in the mid to late 60`s.

the one reason i will vote for obama if dennis drops out is that obama offers the best hope for the future .except for dennis, i can`t vote for anyone my age or older...they bring to the table old wine in old bottles.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 11:26 PM
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11. Obama is nothing like JFK.
Sorry, he just isn't.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 11:40 PM
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12. A dangerous and insane comparison.
Is Obama concealing a crippling illness and a voracious promiscuity?

Is Obama expecting to have Congress block his attempts at legislation?

Do you actually know anything about JFK? Do you even remember he was MURDERED? Do you fantasize worshipping a MARTYR?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:28 AM
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13. Ridiculous and delusional. nt
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:36 AM
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14. Obama backlash
is definitely evident tonight. Could it be the fear of change or just plain hater-ade?
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:06 AM
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15. The fear appears to be very real
and it's as if all the negative vitriol, polls, and chants of inevitability are going to gain votes for Hillary. This negative bullcrap does not help reel in voters, and I hope that there are fewer Obama and Edwards supporters playing this game over the coming weeks. I do not wish for those two candidates to lose undecided voters due to belligerent, dishonest supporters. I think we should tout the positives that we see in our candidates, but we should not flood the board with the same story, nor should we stoop to the lows of bashing the other candidates.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:13 AM
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16. The fear of Victory
is in the air. I guess if Obama wasn't doing well there wouldn't be any attacks. In an ironic sense I guess this is a good sign of how well our candidate is doing.
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BostonMa Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:13 AM
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17. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 03:16 AM
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18. I get the point
Gobama could be the next JFK

Edwards could be the next FDR

Hillary could be the next GWB and if she does win I'm betting when she goes into her first "I'm the decider" rant alot of heads will explode here.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 03:35 AM
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19. Obama is JFK like Pepsi Clear was the Cola of the Future. /nt
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:05 AM
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20. Biggest difference: JFK had cool followers. Obama's followers are complete twerps.
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