GQ magazine: the Hillary Haters

[Enrique]

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_6249&pageNum=6

On a screen in a back room of an upscale Dallas restaurant, a cartoon version of Hillary Clinton veers between bored and apoplectic. In the cartoon, in which she hosts a late-night program called The Hillary Show, her teeth are pointed, resembling fangs. She mocks everyone she comes across (including her “sidekick,” Howard Dean) and exhibits her violent streak by leaping out of a chair to bash Al Gore over the head with a wooden mallet, the “Hillary Hammer.”

“Another loser,” she says.

A knowing chuckle spreads through the audience of about fifteen local Republican activists and donors, including an associate of Karl Rove. Many of the attendees, mostly middle-aged and mild-mannered, wear nametags and anti-Hillary buttons on their suit lapels and silk blouses. The lights come on, and a tall, youthful 60-year-old man steps in front of the screen. Across his gray suit and broad yellow tie the projector beams Hillary’s scowling face and a White House seeped in bloody red.

“Wanted to reach out and involve you in our effort—in our Web site,” Dick Collins, a veteran Republican fund-raiser, says in his languid Texas drawl. He favorably compares his Stop Her Now Web site—a clearinghouse of anti-Hillary news, blogs, and cartoons, all with the mission of “Rescuing America from the radical ideas of Hillary Clinton”—to “the Swifties,” the nonprofit advocacy group the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which mortally wounded the campaign of John Kerry in 2004. He then proudly refers to the Stop Her Now banner, which his group has flown over a number of Clinton’s campaign appearances, as a way to attract potential supporters and irritate Hillary. “I’m sure she said to her aide, ‘We need to get a bazooka and take that thing down.’ That’s the real Hillary that nobody gets to see.” This wouldn’t be recognizable as a punch line in any other room, but supporters laugh approvingly and put down their white wine and orange cheese cubes to clap.

Collins thinks his use of “humor” will allow his anti-Hillary venture to succeed where others have failed, and that his cartoons and sight gags will ultimately play a major role in preventing Hillary Clinton from becoming president. “You do it with satire,” he explains to his guests. “Because it is a much more effective way to define somebody.”

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[Richard Steele]

1. And I'll bet it's just about the least funny cartoon ever.

RW conservative brains can't do "humor". They just aren't
wired for it.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

34. it could probably give Mallard Filmore a run for its money -eom

[LeftCoast]

2. I wonder when we'll see that video posted here?

[ronnykmarshall]

60. Soon I imagine

[Perry Logan]

3. This poor guy needs to talk to the anti-Hillary people. Doesn't he know he WANTS Hillary to win?

[Tellurian]

4. Imagine, having Obama the nominee.. He will be more vulnerable to this type of satire..

Things like Limpy's Magic Negro, Obama dressed in Muslim gear, Osama picking Obama as the next president!

Sorry, I don't see Obama surviving these type of vicious attacks and attaining the presidency over a Republican.

[MrScorpio]

8. It's already happening

However, it'll be more "mainstream" if he were to become the nominee

[Tellurian]

9. You are correct...and it won't take very much time to cripple him if he is the nominee....

How in the world will Obama fight this?

By saying...Shhhhh?

[JTFrog]

11. And I'm sure you're working on getting those up at HIllaryis44 right now! n/t

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[Tellurian]

33. Sorry, your insults do nothing to elevate your candidates worthiness..

The fact is Obama is unqualified for the presidency at this time.

[JTFrog]

32. Odd isn't it how you repeatedly do exactly what you say they don't need to do.

And you keep confusing me for an Obama supporter. I'm just a democrat.

[BenDavid]

14. Tellurian, I concur, and what the obama folks really need to ask

themselves is why the rnc, gop and the media are being so nice to obama? I have many times asked the question, "Just who do you think the racist gop would really like to run against? It is a shame here in 2007 there is still racism but folks it is alive and well in the gop. Don't believe me, then go ask Senator Ford if there is. Oh excuse me it is not Senator Ford from Tn. it is Senator Corker. (ford ahead by 2 in last 10 days and the RNC ran an ad showing a white blond headed woman and all she said was "harold call me" and folks that ad turned the tables against ford) Oh it will be a stealth campaign if obama gets the nomination but it will be there and as Charles Barkley once said, "In this election we are going to see just who the sexist and racist really are."

[mrreowwr_kittty]

17. BenDavid, what Clinton supporters need to ask is:

Are the people who won't vote for Obama because he is black, going to vote for Hillary Clinton?

Can you think of a single person - anyone - who will bring out more of the rabid GOP "base" to vote than Hillary Clinton? Anyone?

Every Republican I know is hoping that HRC is the Dem nominee. Every one.

[Tellurian]

19. No, what you need to do is ask yourself... IS:

If Obama is the eventual Democratic nominee; can he survive the withering political attacks on his race, character, credentials and ethnicity? I say he can't. He's never been tested.

If Edwards is the eventual Democratic Nominee; can he survive the withering political attacks by the GOP on his Senate Record designating him a full on hypocrite representing a Senate Record diametrically opposed to his presidential campaign?

Besides the fact, Edwards will have many months of invisibility for lack of money defending himself countering attacks with tv ads and mailings. Nevermind, blasting the GOP nominee with negative advertising. Edwards will die a slow death under Republican attack for lack of money for counterattacks.

The only one left standing, ready, willing and able to stand up to the Republican attacks and the most qualified candidate in every way, attacking Republicans on their own turf until election day, is Sen Hillary Clinton..

[Lurking Dem]

23. If half the Democrats can't stand her

how do you think she's going to fare in the General?

[Tellurian]

24. You'd think we were casting votes in a personality contest!

We're voting for the best qualified person for president. We're voting for the right candidate who can survive the malicious Republican attack machine. AND...For someone with the right experience capable of getting the country's economy back on track as soon as possible! The only one who fills the bill IS Sen. Hillary Clinton.

You may not like her for whatever reason but the fact remains, she IS what we need at the moment to turn this country around to what it was when her husband, the former president, left office.

[Lurking Dem]

41. You are wrong on so many counts.

I do not think she is the best qualified. Hell, Richardson and Biden both blow her away on that score.

I do not think she can survive the Republican attack machine any better (and maybe a little worse) than any of the other Democratic candidates. In fact, the highly Republican county I live in I have heard many who are planning on voting for Hillary in our open primary so she makes the ticket.

I do not like her economic policies.

We cannot repeat the economy of the 90's no matter who is in charge.

I do not want to go back to the way things were. I am sick of the way things were.

It's not a personality contest. It is a policy contest. And she loses.

[Tellurian]

43. Hillary's resume is fact and discounts your opinon as fallacious thinking..

[sniffa]

52. says His44

:rofl:

[onetinsoldier]

36. HILLARY IS DAMAGED GOODS

I AM CONVINCED BILL CLINTON HAS DAMAGED HIS WIFE'S CAMPAIGN
SERIOUSLY,HE SHOULD HAVE STAYED OUT OF IT,PEOPLE REALLY DO
WANT CHANGE,BIG TIME.PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM "CLINTON
FATIGUE" AND YEARN FOR A FRESH PERSON,THE NEXT PRESIDENT
WILL BE EITHER,OBAMA,HUCKABEE,EDWARDS OR ROMNEY,MARK IT DOWN. 

[LostinVA]

49. OH BROTHER

[creeksneakers2]

55. I've written it on my calendar right by election day

If one of those people wins I'll remember that onetinsoldier made that prediction as one of his very first posts. If you are right, you're off to a great start as a keen analyzer. Next time though, no all caps please.

[durrrty libby]

26. "Every Republican I know is hoping that HRC is the Dem nominee."

Complete BS. Some are scared shitless that she will be the nom and some will vote for her

I know several in both categories

[mrreowwr_kittty]

31. I'm guessing you don't live in a Red, or swing state. nt

[durrrty libby]

35. You would be wrong ....again

[mrreowwr_kittty]

42. I doubt it. R's are not going to vote for Hillary Clinton. Period.

And neither are a lot of Independents. I'm not saying she can't win because she's a tough campaigner, and smart as heck.

But it's going to be hard for her to win. Harder than anyone else.

[bvar22]

46. Not just Republicans and Independents, but

many Anti-WAR/ProLABOR Democrats will defect to a 3rd Party Populist if Hillary is the nominee.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[LostinVA]

48. My father is planning to vote for her if she gets the nomination

And he is a die-hard Republican. He'd also vote for Edwards.

[creeksneakers2]

54. They won't believe they are voting against Obama because

he's black. The smear job will include race but not directly. For example, they'll make an accusation against Obama that would never be made against a white candidate. If Obama brings up race in his defense, they'll say Obama is playing the race card. They'll try to make it look Obama is fanning the flames of racial division to win. From there, many whites will see the race as an us versus them contest between whites and blacks.

When Obama first started running this year race was brought up constantly. The GOP desperately wants to make it about race and wanted Obama to slip up on an emotion driving question. Obama deflected that with amazing skill. He neither became a one sided advocate for blacks nor made excuses for racism. His keen insight was all he offered. Hearing it, the listener would be struck by his ability to see through the clutter of angry debate.

I admire Obama for standing up to it all and surviving so far. If I believed Hillary could win but Obama couldn't win because he's black, I wouldn't be one bit less inclined to vote for Obama. I refuse to yield one bit to unjustified hatred.

So it doesn't make any difference whether they'll go after Obama or Hillary or can beat one or the other. When I see that kind of evil I just want to fight back. I'd love so much to see those racists or Hillary haters forced to swallow an Obama or Hillary presidency that the risk of losing is worth it. Both candidates are adept at fighting back. I say let's play.

[calteacherguy]

29. People like you are what give racists the upper hand. nt

[niceypoo]

16. Sorry, I don't see letting the republicans choose the nominee

If we pick a nominee based on what, "the republicans will say," then we are toast. Kerry was nominated based on this line of reasoning.

[NewHampster]

20. Very sad but true in the real world of dickPublican Politics

Plus


Obama
Been
Away
Many
Aday

[calteacherguy]

30. People like you are what give racists the upper hand. nt

[Nedsdag]

40. How do you know?

Do you have a crystal ball?

Are you a psychic?

If he didn't learn from the Kerry campaign on how to respond to "vicious attacks," then he shouldn't run for the local school board let alone President of the United States.

[William769]

5. I wonder how many people on DU live in that area?

K&R!

[Bitwit1234]

6. And wimp ass Obama cries because the Unions tell the truth about him

wonder what he would do if he had 25 years of bashing like Hillary Clinton. And she shows she has the character to stand up against such crap. And the dumbasses SAY THE REPUBLICANS WANT HER TO BE THE CANDIDATE. Why do the swiftboat and flame her. They want the wimp Obama he is the one and only candidate that they can beat.

[Tellurian]

7. For me, the example used in th OP is just "more" baloney and Over the TOP BS

people just tune out to this type of misogynist bashing-

On the other hand, seeing Obama's run thus far has virtually been unscathed by satirical bashing. People will never know if it's meaning is True, partly True, or supposed to be something funny. Obama is a Swift boaters dream!

[Onlooker]

10. Why didn't he talk to the Hillary haters on the left

The Hillary-hating phenomenon is not just a right wing thing; when 40% of DUers claim they won't vote for Hillary even if it means a Republican wins the WH, the phenomenon obviously crosses the political divide. What is the unique thing about Hillary that makes both sides hate her so much? I think it's her gender that ultimately makes people hold her to a different standard.

[unapatriciated]

61. her gender has nothing to do with my vote

it is her policies on Health Care, Iraq and extending NFTA to Peru.

I will not vote for her in the primaries for those reasons only, nothing to do with her gender.
If she is nominated I will support and vote for her in the general election.

I do get tried of being called a hillary hater because I disagree with her policies.

[JTFrog]

12. All the satire in the world will not distract from the fact that there are genuine

reasons to be concerned.

That being said, there is no call for that kind of "humor" in politics. The shit just gets deeper and deeper every fucking cycle.

[Adelante]

13. Blech nt

[MethuenProgressive]

15. It's no surprise to see their last five hitjobs were posted here, too.

Birds of a feather.

[Evergreen Emerald]

21. bunch of middle aged men with Oedipus complexes

What surprises me is that the left-wing of the democratic party has sided with the mainstream right-wing and uses routinely their talking points against Clinton.

Rather than looking at her record, they claim she is republican. Rather than listen to her words, they listen to the likes of these good ol' boys who likely hate their wives and mothers too.

[NewHampster]

22. They drank the coolaid of subliminal messages

While falling asleep in front of the tube with FAUX News on.

Subliminal Messages

[durrrty libby]

27. They are afraid someone will make a nice stew featuring their little huevos

[bvar22]

47. Oh Yes, it was the "Left Wing" that sided with Bush on the IWR....

Oh wait....No it wasn't.

It was YOUR candidate.

My bad.

[Evergreen Emerald]

53. Dude, read her stats. She is one of the most liberal

and progressive.

[bvar22]

59. Hillary is a "Liberal"???

Now THATS a Right Wing Talking Point.
Why do you want to spam DU with Right Wing Talking Points?

Hillary is the most conservative Democratic Candidate!
Dude, YOU need to study her Policy statements, and look at her "record" in the Senate.

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[Rock_Garden]

25. The guys who do those can't draw for sour apples.

[Triana]

37. Well this just shows that I was RIGHT about guys when I was 13...

...I kept thinking "I wonder if they ever grow up? I mean, I know males mature much more slowly than females but I wonder if they ever really grow up?"

At 47, I can now honestly say the answer is: ABSOLUTELY NOT

Crap like THIS is PROOF of it.

I am not a Hillary supporter. I don't like her policies. However, I admire her as a person and respect her as a woman.

This type of juvenile, frat-boy crap is just the PROOF in the pudding that SOME MEN (particularly the rightwingnut variety but many others too) just


NEVER.


GROW.


UP.


Pffffffffffft! I was RIGHT. And NOW, I have PROOF - there it is - SOME MEN get together to have an "Anti-Hillary" convention.

I don't care if they support her or NOT - FINE. Say so, argue about it and give some reasons, but this type of activity is just juvenile and stupid. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

[Joe the Revelator]

38. Well hello sexist post....

Guys never grow up? Are you serious with that rhetoric??

[Triana]

51. You're barking up the wrong tree boy. Why don't you just join the Hillary-hater men's club...

...instead of projecting the attitudes it espouses onto other people who are simply pointing it out?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

39. If Sen. Clinton is the nominee, the antics of jerks like this will bring a LOT of women out

I think we're all getting tired of the immaturity and cheap shots that come out whenever male privilege is being threatened. Another case in point is the recent crap from Rush and Drudge about her aging and appearance. Watch out for more of this if she's the nom. What these dumb jerks forget is that women will sympathize with Clinton, and we vote.

[durrrty libby]

44. Yes and many R women will throw down the gauntlet as well

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. Possibly a few will, but I was thinking more of Dems and Independents.

A lot of R women will simply never vote Dem because of social issues (which is why most R's are R's - socially moderate/economically conservative R's have become as rare as hen's teeth) but they might decide to sit the election out if jerkwad guys play the sexist looks card against Clinton one time too often.

[Triana]

50. Yes. And that would be one good thing about her being the nom...

....we'd get to see the full display of male juvenile frat-boy arrogance in all it's blazing stupidity. And it would be a huge national turn-off for women voters.

Give 'em enough rope...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

56. And the lefty guys who also go in for the frat boy stuff would have to can it for once

These guys who call themselves liberal but love to objectify women and think we gals should lighten up about offensive jokes and comments about our appearance will have to refrain from their favorite pastime, lest they help the opposition. Just imagine how painful it will be for guys like Howard Stern and Bill Maher to have to show respect for woman who is *gasp!* mature and not a "hawt babe". :evilgrin:

[Madam Mossfern]

57. It's the

He-man wimmin'haters club!
No gurlz aloud.

[creeksneakers2]

58. Hillary hatred is a mystery

I enjoyed reading theories about it. Thanks for posting a great article.