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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:22 PM
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Joe Biden, Briefly
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/joe-biden-briefly/#more-3472

Joe Biden, Briefly

By Matt Bai
Primary Argument - Matt Bai - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

One day last week, I drove down to Indianola, Iowa, to see Mitt Romney speak at a country club, then headed two and half hours northeast to the little town of Tipton, where Hillary Rodham Clinton held forth at the fairgrounds. Then I got back into car and drove north, toward Cedar Rapids, where I knew a lot of my colleagues would be going that evening for an appearance by Mike Huckabee. By then, though, I decided I’d seen enough standard campaign rallies for one day, so I turned right off Route 30, instead, and set a course for Marion, where the Nash family was throwing a house party for Joseph Biden.

The place was filling up when I got there, and as it turned out, more than 150 people, most of them devoted Biden fans, would soon jam themselves into the colonial home on a cul-de-sac, munching on mini-sandwiches and commenting on the regal Christmas tree. They stood around patiently for hours while Mr. Biden slowly groped his way through the translucent sheet of white fog that had settled over Iowa.

One of the mysteries to me about this campaign season is why Mr. Biden hasn’t gotten more of a hearing. I know that elicits groans from a lot of Washington veterans. Mr. Biden is now the fifth longest-serving senator, having been elected weeks before he passed the minimum age threshold of 30 in 1972, and when someone hangs around the Capitol that long, his flaws inevitably become legend, and the buzz that once surrounded him dissolves into a kind of cynical familiarity. Insiders like to ridicule Biden’s propensity to bloviate without end. When Mr. Biden started out his presidential campaign with a nightmarish gaffe, describing Barack Obama as “clean” and “articulate,” official Washington scoffed and moved on.

And yet, from that moment on, Mr. Biden has run a very good campaign. He has consistently scored high in the debates, where his obvious expertise in foreign policy have often made him appear to be a statesman among strivers, and he has demonstrated a surprising capacity for brevity. Mr. Biden is tough, having weathered both personal tragedy and political collapse. When he talks about Iraq, he does so with singular credibility in the Democratic field, because his son, Delaware’s attorney general, is soon to be deployed there, and as Mr. Biden puts it, “I don’t want my grandson to go, too.” A lot of people in Iowa absolutely love Mr. Biden, going way back to his first presidential campaign in 1988. From just chatting with voters around the state, the guess here is that Mr. Biden would be a significant force in the upcoming caucuses if Iowans actually thought he could win. They never have.

Mr. Biden’s supporters will tell you that this is all the media’s fault for not covering him more — much the same argument you hear from Bill Richardson and Christopher Dodd’s supporters, too. This has some validity, but personally, I think Mr. Biden is less a victim of the media itself than of the distinct political culture that we in the media have wrought. Ten years of endless blather about the game of politics on cable TV have trained the most engaged American voters to handicap candidates rather than hear them, to pontificate about who might win rather than deciding whom they actually want to win. Voters seem to approach politics increasingly as pundits, and they look to poll numbers to tell them who’s electable and who isn’t, never stopping to realize that they are the ones who get to decide.

Anyway, when Mr. Biden finally showed up at the Nash home, dressed in a black turtleneck and suit coat, he went from one little conversation clique to the next, quietly shaking hands and reconnecting with old friends. Later, he told the crowd that he had mistakenly thought he was attending the Nashes’ private Christmas party, not a campaign event. “(“Not a joke, folks,” he said, and I believed him.) “You find people who go so out of the way for you, it boggles the mind,” Mr. Biden said. “It really does. They become friends.” He talked for five minutes and addressed his comments to the soldiers who were overseas at Christmas, pointedly reminding the guests that he had been the Middle East more than all the other candidates combined. He talked about the opportunity that the next American president had to remake the world. He teared up, for real.

Joe Biden probably won’t win Iowa or any other state, for that matter, and maybe he doesn’t deserve to. But he certainly has earned some respect in this campaign, and if a Democrat is elected next November, he may well find himself up for a major cabinet post. He has reminded Democrats that he is a serious man, even if he hasn’t been taken all that seriously in the process.
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kad7777 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:34 PM
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1. I have met the Senator
The message below was posted before by me, but it seems to be an appropriate response to babylon's post.

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I met Joe for the third time a few weeks ago. On this occasion, it was of a more intimate setting, and I was able to speak with him for a little while. When he first made his way into the gathering, he approached the small group I had the pleasure of speaking with. He introduced himself, and we all began to speak with him. When he turned to me and reached out his hand, I told him my name and he seemed to recognize who I was (or I'd like to think so), maybe because of my video I produced to show my support for him. He put his arm around my shoulder and pulled me in. I was not in awe of the man per say, and that is a reflection of how Joe puts you at ease. Instead, I felt an enormous respect. A profound respect for who he is as a man, a father, and a servant. He instills what seems to be a deep trust that can't be specifically explained, but indeed it is there and it is inspiring. I told him I was a struggling actor, and he told me a story about when he was first running for the Senate, and how difficult it was to be rejected, and put down often during his young campaign.

It was a wonderful evening, and I must say, to be in the room with someone like Joe Biden, you feel like America still has a chance to be great again. You walk away with a deep yearning in your heart to do whatever you can...whatever you can to lift Joe Biden up to our nation's highest office because America deserves him...needs him. He is...one of the best we have. And I do not have a single doubt that Joe Biden will mend our broken nation, and build it back to greatness...and the rest of the world will follow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4



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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:42 PM
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3. Thanks for reposting
you comments. The first hand accounts give us a sense of what is really going on in the campaign.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:20 PM
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7. Thank you, kad. I share your sentiments and convictions which you so beautifully state. nt
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:59 PM
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16. Wow!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:41 PM
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2. Very good article
though I don't necessarily agree with "Joe Biden probably won't win Iowa or any other state" and I don't see him in a major cabinet post.

I believe he has a really good chance in Iowa. Caucus goers don't pay much attention to the MSM.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:46 PM
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4. I wish him the best on January 3rd.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:56 PM
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5. Enjoyable Read
Thanks for posting
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:19 PM
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6. This story makes me proud to be a Bidenite. Thank you so much, babylonsister! nt
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:37 PM
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8. a statesman among strivers -- nice writing!
The campaign ought to adopt that as a slogan.

A statesman among strivers.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:20 PM
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9. His views on foreign policy are really winning me over...but...
I still want to know what he thinks about what the Bankruptcy Bill has done to people and how it has further enriched charge card companies.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:25 PM
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10. Biden and bankruptcy bill
I think that because this bill was sure to pass, (it came under consideration under the Republican led Congress) Biden, true to form, decided to do something to the bill to benefit women and children. I know a lot of people are upset about this bill, and maybe I don't totally understand all the ins and outs of it which is why it's not a big deal to me. But, I think it's great that now women get back child support before other creditors get jack.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:38 PM
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11. FINALLY! heh Ireally wouldn't mind having him as a neighbor or as President!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:03 PM
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12. Biden is the real deal.
I think he will surprise lots of people come 1/3.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:47 PM
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13. For tha people who like and want a candidate but think he can't win:
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 11:48 PM by notmyprez
If you, and all the other people in your shoes voted for him, then perhaps he would win. It really bugs me when people make that comment--why is everyone only interested in voting for the person they think will win? Sure, the very rich and the corporations can get direct benefits from being with the winner, but regular people get no such benefits. Regular people get benefits from the best candidate being in office. If they think someone is the best candidate, they should vote for him in the primary. If enough folks vote for who they actually think would make the best president, then perhaps Biden actually could win.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 02:08 AM
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17. notmy,
I almost wrote Bai about this:

'Joe Biden probably won’t win Iowa or any other state, for that matter, and maybe he doesn’t deserve to. But he certainly has earned some respect in this campaign, and if a Democrat is elected next November, he may well find himself up for a major cabinet post. He has reminded Democrats that he is a serious man, even if he hasn’t been taken all that seriously in the process.'

Bai is not a very nice guy.

This TNR piece links to the above:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_spine/archive/2007/12/26/biden-deserves-better-from-the-media.aspx


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:54 PM
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14. Thanks for posting this
great read.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:55 PM
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15. This is kind of a funny title, because really.. anyone who's met Joe knows he's anyting BUT brief :-
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