Obama supporters blindly trust the media

[antiimperialist]

We keep hearing how Obama is more electable than Hillary, and that Hillary is polarizing, unlike Obama, who attracts independents and is not hated by the right wing.
We see much more Hillary-bashing from Rush Limbaugh, Drudge (remember the wrinkly pic of Hillary?), The Weekly Standard, which recently had a very flattering piece in favor of Obama; David Brooks, who all but endorsed Obama in a recent NYT article.

But do these naive Obama supporters believe that just because Obama has not been around too long the mainstream media will not find anything to discredit him? Do Obama supporters know that progressive blogs will not be enough to serve as counterbalance to the swiftboating, the lies, the rumors that will appear and continue to be spread against Obama by the right and obediently repeated by the Joe Kleins, Chris Mathews and Tim Russerts of the world?

Do they know that once Clinton is out of the picture, if Obama goes on to win the nomination, Maureen Dowd will pick him as her new punching bag?

Do they know that once operation-haircut against John Edwards has been successfully accomplished, plans will begin anew against the Illinois senator?

Keep telling yourself that Obama's high favorability ratings will remain at this level. Keep telling yourself that independents will continue to love him. Keep telling yourself that he will be the media darling throughout 2008.

And I have a bridge to sell you.

[TwilightGardener]

1. He's not perfect, and there will be bumps in the road, but he'll win, and

he'll make a good--dare I say great--President.

[babylonsister]

2. Do you know what hope feels like? How about a fresh face and new ideas?

All your spinning in the world cannot discount that.

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8. What are we all supposed to be hoping for? I seriously don't get it.

Hoping is like wishing. WISHING.


But for what - that he wins? That he will be a decent president? That there's actually something there?

What are we supposed to be hoping for?

[TwilightGardener]

12. I'm hoping for a thoughtful, analytical President, who operates

from a true and deep desire to perform public service, rather than a President who is "in it to win it". I'm hoping for a pragmatic problem-solver, with excellent judgment, youthful energy, and optimism to tackle the huge challenges ahead of us. I'm hoping for someone who deeply loves every part of this country and its people, and will act to heal what divides us instead of polarizing us even further into red and blue camps. I see all of that in Obama.

[babylonsister]

14. Thank you. I think you answered that quite succinctly...

:hug: What you said, and I have said how I feel about Obama often.

[TwilightGardener]

16. ...

:toast:

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18. Yeah, that's worth hoping for. And I hate to say this, because I don't want to burst anyone's bubble

but those qualities you so eloquently stitched together really don't describe the one you credit them to. He has polarized along generational and sexual orientation divides. He has attacked his main rival by calling her bush/cheney lite, and dishonest, clearly questioning her character. His excellent judgment led him to make statements for and against the war in Iraq. For and against forces being left there to blunt an Iranian threat. For and against 527s. Basically, it's wrong for anyone but himself. Why would such a pragmatic solver of problems skip important votes, or vote present when there? Why would someone ready to lead, shiny and new (but somehow experienced too) cry foul at the slightest examination of his record, and actions, or lack thereof? Why play victim at the audacity of those he seeks to govern to question his inconsistencies? Why pretend inaction equals experience and readiness?

I really don't want to harm something that brings you joy, but it is as much a crafted illusion as Santa.

I fear what an Obama presidency would do to this nation, tho I seriously doubt his ability to win in the GE. His evidently natural inclination to blame others for his own deeds and words, to run from responsibility, to whine and play victim - how would that play out with him as president? How would an aggressive adversary, be it a slimy repuke or some truly dangerous leader of a rouge nation, react to a stomping of feet and a shouting of "no fair?" Could be not just embarrasing, could be extremely dangerous on a world wide scale.

Sorry, I'll save the images for tv. We don't need another arrogant, above question and accountability, cross your fingers as we fly off a cliff president. We need the opposite.

[TwilightGardener]

21. It's obvious that your mind is made up about Obama, and that

you interpret everything he says or does in a negative, even sinister, light. That's fine. He's not everyone's cuppa tea--I won't waste my time trying to convince the un-convinceable. I will tell you this: It's "cry foul", NOT "cry fowl"--unless you're a rooster.

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23. yeah, long days in retail this time of year

leads to careless grammatical errors, thanks for pointing that out

as far as Obama goes, yeah, I pretty much have reached my conclusions - hard to ignore the blatant...

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

26. Applause, I'm in total agreement n/t

[CyberPieHole]

3. Some of his negatives are patently obvious, others we will learn of as he goes along...

if he wins the nomination, any person he ever smoked pot and snorted coke with will come crawling out of the woodwork to have their 15 minutes of fame. If Obama's fans don't think this will happen they are being naive. If they believe it could happen but that it will backfire: that the U.S. is too sophisticated to care about such youthful indiscretions~~~then they are being doubly naive. The U.S. is still too puritanical and prudish to accept THAT much change.

[stillcool]

5. I look forward to meeting them all...

sounds like my kind of people. Of course, Jesus Christ could run for office, and people pushing their own candidate would dig up dirt about Joseph and Mary. But hey....it's politics! What a sport.

[CyberPieHole]

10. I'm sure most people in the U.S. are not only able to relate to snorting coke...

but they will admit to having snorted coke publicly. And, yes, Jesus Christ=Barack Obama.:eyes:

[stillcool]

20. and Joseph and Mary?

who are they?

[Alexander]

24. Obama's cocaine admissions will help him among Republicans.

They tend to enjoy the lady in white a great deal.

[AndyTiedye]

11. Only If You Are a Democrat. It's OK If You're a Republican

If they believe it could happen but that it will backfire: that the U.S. is too sophisticated to care about such youthful indiscretions~~~then they are being doubly naive. The U.S. is still too puritanical and prudish to accept THAT much change.

If you are a Democrat. If you are a Republican, and you claim to have "Found Jesus", then it's all good. Teflon all the way.

[babylonsister]

15. I don't quite know what pie hole means, but I bet you need to

revisit your name, because it veers close to ...

You don't think both Clintons smoked dope with people, and who exactly gives a shit? They didn't come forward; Obama is 46, not 18. Stand by for lots of stuff, including hits on any Dem running. Barack Obama is black, or half black. Deal with it.

[babylonsister]

17. I'm 51 (almost 52) and I have snorted coke and smoked dope. So What?

I haven't snorted coke in years. Neither has Obama. And what if he did?
Most of America has done some form of this. Your prognostications are lame.

[Cha]

4. I don't trust the corpopratemediawhores

any more than I trust the clintons.

[sandnsea]

6. When they pull out their bag of tricks

It will be much easier to combat with a fresh new face that doesn't have the baggage of campaign scandals, library scandals, pardon scandals, and the nasty primary scandals that prove there's reason to distrust the Clintons.

[peoli]

7. I didnt know I was being duped by the media

and like all Obama supporters I was incapable of wieghing the good and bad or projecting into the future until someone like you , so wise, pointed it out to me.

I dont know what all the Obama supporters are going to do. If only there were more people like you to enlighten single celled ameoba like us Obama supporters maybe we will see the light.

Thank you for reminding us that Obama supporters cant and arent capable of thinking for ourselves.

[BenDavid]

9. I agree and here again I say we have too many here in the DU

that are smart enough not to buy into all the negative reporting against HRC and believe the positives about obama from the same damn press. Obama folks ask yourself one quick question, Why do you think the gop and most of the media are talking, writing such nice things about obama? Most of the gop and that damn rnc is filled with racist bastards and i would say they are licking their lips in hopes that obama is the dem nominee. If you think I am wrong then take a look at the 06 senate race in tn. Ford an African American was ahead in most polls by 2 to 3 points going into the final 10 days. THE RNC yes the RNC ran an ad that dipicted a white blond saying, "harold call me" and their my friends stood the election and instead of having Ford as the Tn senator you have corker. You all know to whom I write is the RNC right....The republican national committee......Enough said.....But here is the reason HRC will have greater odds in defeating any of the republicans.....and it is one word SYMBOLISM

When HRC wins the nomination too many republican strategists are girding up for the wrong fight. Republicans are acting and talking and putting out talking points that HRC is too polarizing and making folks believe it will be Leona Hemlsey, the notorious Queen of Mean they will be running against instead of Hillary Rodham Clinton......Folks believe me before this election is over, HRC's candidacy will have more in common with Amelia Earhart's first trans atlantic flight or Sally K Ride's first trip into space than Helmsley's heartlessness.....

Many in here that support obama and edwards have bought into the rights spin and believe HRC will be beat and also they believe if she wins the nomination she will be a loser. FOLKS, far from it because you and the right fail to grasp the crucial role that SYMBOLISM plays in politics. Once HRC is the nominee HRC's bid to be the FIRST EVER WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and believe you me, IT IS A DAMN BIG DEAL, and it will ver shadow every other issue and image as the campaign goes forth.

It is so damn curious that so many in here that enjoy posting polls that show HRC's negatives OVERLOOK that fact that HRC's negatives are clustered mainly among republicans and republican leaning independents whoa re unlikely to vote for her in any circumstance. Over a two year( Aug 05 -Aug 07) period Gallup reported that among "pure independents" HRC had a 46% favorable rating and 43% unfavorable and 12% no opinion. Looking at this would believe it was too close to call but here is the kicker......but RIPE FOR SYMBOLIC EXPLOITATION.....

Ben David

[K Gardner]

13. Oh come on.. so anyone who supports Edwards or Obama or other than HRC has

bought into RW SPIN?? Give us a little credit for being over 12 years old and having been around this block more than a few decades. Stop talking about arbitrary poll numbers and the TPMs you get every day and talk to Real People with Real Problems, and they don't identify with Hillary. Or talk to people, like me, who were firmly behind her until she and her supporters turned into a symbiotic twin of Karl Rove and his Lee Atwater tactics. Spin it all you want. If it makes you feel better. But stop calling the real of us, basically, idiots.

You're disconnected from "the people".. just like she is.

[sandnsea]

25. There has been very little negative reporting

Fox and the right wing will always report shit about any Dem. SOP. Other than that, Hillary has gotten a pass from most and downright cheered by many, like CNN. Despite that, she has allowed one silly slip to totally tank her campaign. She made every stupid decision since the license debacle, including the decision to stay negative right up to the last week of the primary. She wants to run a negative campaign, then she can't complain she's getting negative press. They're just reporting on what she's doing, the fun she herself said she was going to have. If it all backfires, it's her own damn fault.

She thought she was going to run on the SYMBOLISM of the inevitability of Hillary, the first woman nominee; and it's already been rejected.

She needed to go back to the drawing board and pull out some authenticity, but what her entire campaign discovered is that there isn't any authenticity there.

The SYMBOLISM of the FIRST EVER BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a DAMN BIG DEAL and is just as likely to over shadow every other issue an image as the campaign goes forth.

And while Tennessee might fall for racist stereotypes, the rest of the country won't.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Really?

Do tell.

[here_is_to_hope]

22. Seems like you are trusting the media....

"We keep hearing how..."