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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:09 AM
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Do Obama supporters REALLY think that Obama will not be attacked by right?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 AM by KennedyGuy
In the event that Obama is the nominee..
there seems to be this illusion that between hope and Oprah..
that the right wing and rethuglicans will not attack Obama if he is the nominee.
Get Real....
This will make the attacks against the Clintons look tame..
The Clinton bimbo eruptions will be replaced by "drug assicoates" eruptions..(which would be just as wrong, but do you REALLY think this will not come up)?
Obama has been given a free ride by the media so far..do not expect that to last. Contrary to belief of some supporters and Oprah..the man is not a Saint.
Anyone who Obama ever partied with or did drugs with will be a nightly guest on Hannity and Colmes and Orielly.
They have already attacked his church..HIS CHURCH!..Do you think drug use will be out of bounds?
So..all of you Obama folks who keep saying that Hillary should not be the nominee because of too much baggage..you may want to re-think.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:12 AM
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1. Actually, from past experience with the Right...
they are already very much involved in OUR selection of our eventual candidate.

Much of the 'dirty tricks' one side appears to play on the others is undoubtedly GOP instigated. Worked for them before didn't it?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:51 AM
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20. They've been dying to get to Hillary for over 12 years!
IMO, she's a much better target for the GOP. They'll use every form of ridicule they have (and that's alot) if she's nominated. No, Obama will be attacked by the GOP but not like Hillary would be.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:12 AM
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21. I agree with you, Hayu_lol........
I believe that a lot of the limp-wristed crapthrowing and mild-mannered $hit-talking we have heard go on between the Clinton-Edwards-Obama Campaigns has been fueled into major warfare by GOP operatives in the MSM.

And it seems to me that several DUers fall for these "eat-their-own" tricks every damn time.
We DUers know better than anyone else how right-wing media manipulates the "news" into propaganda and repuke talking points, yet we still allow ourselves to be played like fiddles....

Go figure!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 AM
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No
ANY of our candidates who becomes the nominee will be attacked by the right. We all know this. That includes Obama. That includes Edwards. That includes Clinton. And so on.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 AM
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2. I think he will be attacked..

and i think he will handle it well.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:14 AM
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3. The GOP machine will not discriminate
Whomever the dem nominee is will be trashed unmercifully 24/7 by the right wing hate machine which has no values, no morals, no ethics, only the deep seated desire to hate intensely whomever they hear is a liberal or a democrat. The likes of limbaugh-hannity and the rest of the right wing scum would drag Mother Teresa's Dead corpse through their meat grinder if there was a hint she supported a democrat.

I hope your hypothesis is wrong My Friend.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:17 AM
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6. So do I...
But just picture it, my friends...
Insanity Hannity...Big Pharma Rush..all the rest..
They have been holding back..
Believe me..
When a candidate admits things about his past..you can be assured that for every thing he admits..there are two more that he didn't..
and the free ride will not last..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:15 AM
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4. Boy, you sure convinced me ...
:eyes: Anyone in this position, in either party, will be attacked. That's the nature of this dirty game.

But free ride? He's had lots of practice with the Clinton campaign slinging shit his way and he's weathered it.

So you are trying to convince us to vote for Hillary because she's used to defending herself? :rofl:
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:18 AM
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9. You are about as bright as that smilie, if you think what he has experienced
so far has been an "attack"
Oh Lord..you guys ARE delusional..
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:17 AM
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5. don't forget
conveniently timed stock options from his largest campaign donors, doing campaign business in his Senate Office (but you can't blame him for that ... he's new and didn't know the FEC Rules, I guess), the sweetheart land deal with his Mafia pal

all of the above may be ludicrous and, at the end of the day, could be much ado about nothing. But the repuglicans will spin it with the media's help and, poof!, there goes the Candidate of Hope and Change.
Because he's a virtual unknown to the American People, "scandals" like these will stick and be talked about endlessly and, in effect, be much more damaging than anything they haul out and blow the dust off about Hillary.

The American People, I believe, are inoculated to Clinton Scandals. It's a collective shrug of the shoulders and a "been there, done that" attitude that indicates more boredom with 1990s repuglican tactics coming back than anything else. The attempts to slander won't stick as successfully as they would with Obama (or even Edwards) simply because We have seen it all before!

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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:17 AM
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7. He will be attacked. It will be stealth but it will happen. 06 Ford
had a 2 to 4% point lead in Tn. senate race. The RNC...you know the republican national committee ran an ad that showed a blond white woman utter these words, "harold call me" and instead of Ford the first African american Senator from Tn. they have Corker. Racists are alive and well in the republican party and the rnc.

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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:17 AM
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8. No.
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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:18 AM
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10. what's the basis?
Do you have any source of someone claiming Obama won't be attacked (as if he isn't already?)

I do think that Obama being part black will cause some of the more moderate GOPeople to turn against their Klan faction. That will be interesting.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:20 AM
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11. here's another post...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:21 AM
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12. Trying to scare people out of supporting a candidate
is the last stop on the out-of-ammo train.

Go reload, if you're capable of it, and start selling the positives of someone for once.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:23 AM
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13. How does that differ from the Hillary cant win because of baggage tripe
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:24 AM by KennedyGuy
that you guys keep pushing? Really now..

"Go reload, if you're capable of it, and start selling the positives of someone for once"

My sentiments exactly...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:34 AM
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16. I gave that up a long time ago
If you oppose her, better to focus on her actual performance during the campaign, her frequent inability to answer questions directly, her shifting campaign narratives, her resume inflation, the K/L vote, her smear tactics, etc. Far more effective.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:27 AM
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14. in 1996 colin powell
was thinking about running for president and the right wing savaged him so badly his wife told him not to run. i listened to rush savage him for days on end with the pet phrase "the little general" and other contemptuous phrases. the right wing thugs are going to try to destroy any democratic candidate.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:34 AM
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17. Exactly my point..
I'm not saying back down..(unlike others when it comes to Hillary)..
But only..be prepared..
The right wing will not fond Obama to be quite the Messiah that Oprah and some of his supporters here do.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:33 AM
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15. Yes, the right will attack, but Obama has more crossover appeal with Independents and thinking R's
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:33 AM by flpoljunkie
For or Against Presidential Candidates
Clinton and Romney Have Highest Level of Core Opposition Among Leading Candidates
Saturday, December 22, 2007

Among the leading Presidential candidates, New York Senator Hillary Clinton and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney have the highest level of core opposition among voters. Forty-seven percent (47%) say they will vote against each of these candidates no matter who else is on the ballot.

<>On a net basis (core support minus core opposition), Obama (-7) and McCain (-11) come out on top. Giuliani (-19) and Romney (-28) have the weakest numbers on a net basis.

Results among voters not affiliated with either major party show that 48% would definitely vote against Clinton. That’s the highest level of core opposition among unaffiliated voters encountered by any of the candidates in the survey. Giuliani is close—44% of unaffiliated voters would definitely vote against him.

McCain has the lowest level of core opposition among unaffiliated voters--just 26% are committed to voting against McCain.

On a net basis, McCain (-6) and Obama (-11) have the best numbers among unaffiliated voters. Clinton (-26) and Romney (-20) have the weakest showing among this group.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/for_or_against_presidential_candidates


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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:44 AM
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18. No... I don't think anyone thinks the Republicans would not attack whoever the nominee is
It just gets down to whether we want the same old crap with the Republicans taking aim at not one, but TWO Clintons. They are waiting for that opportunity.

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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:46 AM
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19. of course he will be
there won't be as much to attack as other candidates but he will be attacked absolutely.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:42 AM
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22. My amateur attempt to psychoanalyze
the right wing leads me to disagree with you My Friend. If they HATE Hillary more then the HATE Bill himself and she does not get the nomination they will more intensely HATE whomever gets the nomination for taking away their opportunity to HATE Hillary as the Dem nominee. And they will be coached to hate the nominee (whomever) 24/7. HATE is a conservative value and they will be more then proud to display it once the nominee is decided. DISINFORMATION AND LIES are more conservative values and they will be used by their noise machine to coach the masses along. But I digress.
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