Extremists Among Us: Obama Campaign Blames Clinton for Bhutto Murder

[wyldwolf]

I cannot imagine Karl Rove doing this. I cannot see Lee Atwater going down this road. Heck, even Roy Cohn wouldn't go there. And yet there today was the top political adviser to Barack Obama pointing a finger for the tragic and truly horrific murder of Pakistani opposition leaders Benazir Bhutto at...steady yourself, Democrats...

Senator Hillary Clinton.

Look, I thought it was an Onion post. But I was sadly wrong. Mark Halperin at Time has all the grimy details, and they're true. Just hours after Bhutto's death shocked the world and created a massive crisis in a grim, nuclear-powered powder-keg, there was David Axelrod tracing the bullets and suicide bomb of an assassin back to his client's political foe, days before the Iowa caucuses.

Always great to use a Woody Allen line, I'll agree - but not in the hours after a brutal murder changes the fragile world of south Asia. And how nice that Axelrod laid blame for the murder of Bhutto on another political leader who considered the former Pakistani leader her personal friend - a symbol of modernism in a region where terrorists fight against rights for women, free speech, and democracy in all its forms. I understand that Bhutto's killing may be a dangerous political development for the thinly-experienced Obama, but that's a very poor excuse for the judgment Axelrod showed today.

http://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/2007/12/extremists-amon.html

[DemKR]

This is beyond Rovian. It has no place in the Dem party!

[sniffa]

27. agreed, these Hillary supporters are sickening

:puke:

[IndianaJones]

1. sick. nt.

[mtnsnake]

2. One word: Fucking despicable

[SteppingRazor]

20. Er ... but .... that's two ...

Oh, never mind. :P

[MNDemNY]

3. But Bhutto supported BHO! see!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3892650#3893502:rofl: :rofl:

[Joe the Revelator]

4. This line of attack by Hillary's supporters is bullshit and intellectually dishonest

Par for the course? Yep.

But even more disgusting this time.

[IndianaJones]

5. more sickness. nt.

[mtnsnake]

9. You can't even differentiate who's doing the attacking. Unbelievable. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

16. I think the group trying to make a mountain out of an honest answer to a question

is the one doing the attacking.

[earthlover]

25. Unfortunately, you are right on all counts.

What is it about some of the Hillary Herd that they find being honest and upfront so frightening?

[ClarkUSA]

6. Post what Axelrod really said instead of posting Clintonian bloggers' BS.

C'mon, what did Axelrod really say?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

21. you got that right, Clark.

Sorry (I just alerted your post by accident, I meant the OP)

[earthlover]

26. They won't post it because his words prove their rants to be false

But when did a little falsehood stop the Hillary Herd?

[gmudem]

44. I doubt they will

Becuause what Axelrod said was 100% accurate. The only bad thing about it is that the timing wasn't so good. The Clintonistas are just using this as another opportunity to make an Obama mountain out of a molehill.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. Also, Axelrod was right...Hillary's poor votes DO have ramifications in the real world

[oasis]

18. Taking your Kool-Aid intravenously now?

:wow:

[LittleClarkie]

8. Spam, spam, spam, spam, wonderful spam, glorious spam...

How many threads do you need on the same subject?

[IndianaJones]

10. you can go rec the Clinton killed Bhutto thread General. nt.

[CyberPieHole]

11. Desperate attack by Axelrod: he needs to step aside...

Is this the "change" Obama is offering? Blaming Clinton for the death of Bhutto.:puke:

[David Dunham]

12. Outrageous comments. Obama should fire Axelrod.

[oasis]

13. "OBaaama you got some 'splainin' to do."

:spank:

[earthlover]

28. Well more Hillary one-liners but they still havn't explained why it was wrong to say what he said

Just bashing away for the sake of bashing.

Going into Iraq had a destabilizing effect on the Middle East. This was an arguement against the war from the start. Wes Clark and others argued that we were taking the eye off the ball by going into Iraq instead of going after al queda in other parts of the Middle East, like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Axelrod was bringing up a point that has been made for years! And it is relevant to the question, which itself was about Hillary, because hillary endorsed the Iraq War which was the most destabilizing event in the Middle East in years. Obama also predicted, long ago, that the Iraq War would destablize the Middle East. He was right. Hillary was wrong. End of discussion. Next?

[MadBadger]

14. "extremists"

wow, well thats some fucked up language.

[bunnies]

17. Indeed. nt

[TankLV]

15. Disgusting - but I've come to expect as much from them...

and the Obamabots excuses start in 3...2...1...

[ClarkUSA]

19. What Obama Campaign Manager David Axelrod REALLY said in response in reporters' questioning....

Today after Barack Obama's closing argument speech in Iowa, Obama adviser David Axelrod parried questions from reporters who pressed him
on whether the killing could help Hillary.

Here's one key exchange:

REPORTER: But looking ahead, does the assassination put on the front burner foreign policy credentials in the closing days?

AXELROD: Well, it puts on the table foreign policy judgment, and that's a discussion we welcome. Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose the
war in Iraq, and he warned at the time it would divert us from Afghanistan and al Qaeda, and now we see the effect of that. Al Qaeda's resurgent,
they're a powerful force now in Pakistan, they may have been involved -- we've been here, so I don't know whether the news has been updated,
but there's a suspicion they may have been involved in this.

I think his judgment was good. Senator Clinton made a different judgment, so let's have that discussion.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/obama_adviser_bhutto_assassination_reminds_us_that_hillary_made_wrong_call_on_iraq_war.php

[BeyondGeography]

22. "Let's have that discussion"

as opposed to "is Bhutto's death a win for Hillary?" which is the question he was asked.

[ClarkUSA]

24. Funny how the OP isn't emphasizing that part and going with Taylor Marsh's Clintonian BS, eh?

Asshole that he is.

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. let's have a conversation: is obama responsible for his statements and his votes

for the war? He voted again and again for the war. He made statements, not condeming the war but rather, suggesting that he may have voted for it had he been in the Senate at the time.

Shouldn't Obama be responsible for his actions too?


And, Biden, Dodd, Edwards all voted for IWR--and voted for funding...are they responsible too?

Or are you creating a double standard where Clinton is responsible for everything, and Obama nothing?

[Tellurian]

45. Yep!

:kick:

[JackORoses]

23. Hill Shill Bayh tried to use Bhutto's death to say we need Hillary's 'strong leadership'

then when reporters bring this up to Axelrod and question why this would not be a good thing for Hillary,
he says that Hill's 'strong leadership' allowed her to make the initial catastrophic blunder of IWR which has led to a series of terrible results and the overall destabilization of the Middle East and the rise of Global Terrorism.

It was an honest answer to an honest question.

If Hillary wants to try and use this tragic event as a political tool,
then Obama should be able to point out why it is hypocritical of her to do so.

Axelrod did not say she killed Bhutto,
he said that Brack Obama did not make the same mistakes as Hillary. Mistakes that have an impact on a global scale.

[earthlover]

29. Mistakes have consequenses....

So, what did Hillary learn from IWR? Answer: Kyl-Lieberman

[AtomicKitten]

30. Quaid! Start the reactor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaaf_9TqPL8

[PresidentObama]

31. Wyldwolf, you'll use anything to trash Obama won't you?

Give it a fucking rest. Bhutto's dead.

I don't care what the fucking Obama campaign did.

Obama and Hillary supporters need to stop trying to use this for their own advantage.

[dionysus]

33. you really enjoy posting lies.

disgusting

[Perry Logan]

34. I'm confident the Obamites will squirm out of this somehow.

[Tellurian]

36. Oh yeah, Axelrod is already recanting!

[Perry Logan]

35. AXELRODGATE THREAD #4

[rucky]

37. A pox upon both of your houses. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

38. Extremists among us are making political hay by starting as many threads as possible

to politicize this tragic event.

[Forkboy]

39. Kick for nailing wolf's slimy ass tactics on the head.

[Azathoth]

40. Man, the Hillaryites are almost as good as the GOP at manufacturing fake outrage n/t

[ArkySue]

41. But neither are as good as

Obamaphites. His middle name is Hussein-oh the outrage to mention that! He said he did cocaine- pure racism to bring it up! Give me a freakin break! If he's that thin-skinned he needs to quit NOW!

[Forkboy]

42. I think both of you groups should be put in a cage and fed whiskey and PCP...

..until it's settled which side is the bigger babies.

[Azathoth]

LOL, the difference is that Obama is questioning Hillary's professional choices and her "experience"

While Hillaryland is questioning whether Obama is a drug-dealer because he tried weed and coke in high school.

[Azathoth]

43. dupe

[SOS]

46. Dramatic irony is unknown to you, isn't it?

Q: Who's trying to make political hay out of the Bhutto assasination?
A: The Windwolf and Tom Watson.