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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:40 PM
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Poll question: Which of these people is most responsible for the tragic mess in Pakistan today?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 05:41 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
"The NYT reported that US Secretary of State Condi Rice tried to fix Musharraf's subsequent dwindling legitimacy by arranging for Benazir to return to Pakistan to run for prime minister, with Musharraf agreeing to resign from the military and become a civilian president. When the supreme court seemed likely to interfere with his remaining president, he arrested the justices, dismissed them, and replaced them with more pliant jurists. This move threatened to scuttle the Rice Plan, since Benazir now faced the prospect of serving a dictator as his grand vizier, rather than being a proper prime minister. With Benazir's assassination, the Rice Plan is in tatters and Bush administration policy toward Pakistan and Afghanistan is tottering."

http://www.juancole.com/2007/12/pakistans-2007-crises-come-to-crescendo.html
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:41 PM
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1. any votes on here other than condi are shameful.....Even Obamas GRASSROOTS supporters
are engaging in these attacks.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:42 PM
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4. The Bush crowd's approach to stability is always sowing chaos, and crossing their fingers
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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10. Shameful, indeed
She's not my pick, but THIS??? Awful.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:41 PM
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2. Condi, although I was tempted to vote HRC just to piss her supporters off.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:42 PM
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3. Me 2.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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11. Me three...
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 05:46 PM by regnaD kciN
Besides, Hillary Rove-ham Clinton's rush to wrap herself in Buhtto's legacy ("She was a friend of mine! Anyway, remember, I have experience!" :eyes: ) is enough to make me choose her in this poll just because such shameful pandering should be considered beneath a serious candidate.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:43 PM
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5. Well somebody did vote for Obama though.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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13. Impossible. Her people always take the high road.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:44 PM
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6. The serious problems in Pakistan are directly attributable to:
George W Bush.

He alone bears the responsibility for all the damage.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:44 PM
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7. Fair enough!
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:53 PM
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18. And Condi is the face of his foreign policy, so she was the best choice of those given.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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8. I think its fair to say, if the question is being asked, that Hillary has blood on her hands on this
She's not the only one, but she is as culpable, if not more so, then any other candidate running on our side.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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9. None of them bears even the smallest bit of responsibility
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM by MonkeyFunk
for Pakistan. The clusterfuck there didn't start with this administration, and it won't end with this one, the next one, or the one after that.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:45 PM
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12. Hillary justified her IWR vote by saying she trusted Bush and Condi Rice to tell her the truth.
Of course, she didn't bother to read the NIE after that.

Wow, that's the kind of foreign policy "experience" we need! :rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:46 PM
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14. The whole * admin for supporting a dictator who declared martial law.
That is so not the American way I remember.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:48 PM
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15. None of the above: Jinnah, Mountbatten, and Nehru...
...jointly bear responsibility for this mess. Had they been willing to take the time and endure the turmoil attendant to forming a power-sharing agreement that would have ensured the security of Muslims and other religious minorities in a united India, this never would have happened.

Well, it makes as much sense as any other attribution of blame in that part of the world.

ironically,
Bright
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:51 PM
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16. Chimp and his gang
not Hillary and I'm not even a supporter of hers but put the blame where it belongs chimp's bunch of thugs!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:52 PM
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17. Well, at least we seem to agree it's a woman. That's progress.
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