The Hillary people remind me of the republicans in 2004.

[Renew Deal]

Do you remember in 2004 when the republicans were hoping and praying for a terrorist attack to "help Bush?" Now the Clinton people think that the Bhutto assassination will help Hillary. It was crude then and now is no different.

[Blue-Jay]

1. You're wrong to blame "the Hillary people".

There's plenty of douchebaggery to go around today.

[Name removed]

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[Blue-Jay]

13. OK. I'll play, if you insist.

Find me an example of anyone employed by Hillary Clinton who is a "fit" for the following statement:

"Now the Clinton people think that the Bhutto assassination will help Hillary." <---direct from the OP

[Joe the Revelator]

58. Evan Bayh

You're going to come back and obnoxiously tell me that " HE'S NOT EMPLOYED, YOU FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!!".

and you might have a point, if it wasn't for the fact that Hillary has a proven pattern of sending out those that endorse her to do her dirty work.

[Blue-Jay]

67. You fail for entirely different reasons.

You were supposed to find an example of a member of Hillary's campaign whose statements mirrored that of the OP. You weren't able to deliver anything of substance other than saying "Evan Bayh" for some incomprehensible reason. Did you even quote the guy?

Nope.

Next time, you should think before you open your yap.

[Joe the Revelator]

69. Keep blustering on Blue Jay

Nothing I say is going to get you to step off your high horse.

[aquart]

18. "Team Hillary"? "Marching orders"?

Nice propagandistic phrasing. Of course you're not calling "them" "paid shills." Why anyone could see that.

And what "team" do you represent?

[Joe the Revelator]

25. I represent the Democratic Party...

...and we want a better nominee then Hillary.

[aquart]

27. LOL!

Okay, now that I know you're joking...

[Joe the Revelator]

31. I'm as serious as dick cancer.

nt

[Blue-Jay]

47. And as entertaining.

[NoPasaran]

53. I remember Dick Cancer from Shindig!

Last I heard he was still working in some shithole in Branson.

[aquart]

68. Oh!

Then you're just wrong.

[Blue-Jay]

30. I'm a member of the Democratic Party.

And you sure as fuck don't represent me.

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Well if you support a pro-war candidate like Hillary then you're not the type of "democrate" ...

that I would want to support.

[Blue-Jay]

38. Who are you quoting with "democrate"?

You used quotation marks, so you must be quoting someone.

Also, you still haven't replied to post #13, so I'm guessing that you can't do it.

Bonus: Hillary Clinton is low on my list of Democrats that I would have as a president, so you just hit the Failure Trifecta. I just don't appreciate meaningless idiotic posts, posing as insightful political commentary.

[Blue-Jay]

59. yeah. That's what I figured.

[rodeodance]

44. deparado

[Blue-Jay]

46. why don' yu com t' you senthes....

Thanks for the speech impediment earworm.

/that was a joke, BTW.

[Cha]

62. Thanks for noticing

that..their talking points read like they ripped them off from the peanut gallery.

[Captain Hilts]

9. Why 'douchebaggery'? Why that term? nt

[ronnykmarshall]

14. Enema bag?

[Blue-Jay]

15. Because I like that word.

[aquart]

19. Because there ain't no sexism on DU. Nuh uh.

[Captain Hilts]

21. Whew! I'm glad we cleared that up! Thanks for the reminder there's no sexism here. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

12. Douche bags are flying all over!

There's vinegar and water all over the place.

[Blue-Jay]

29. Ronny, are we having the DU "douchebag" fight again?

And here, I figured that someone would have a problem with the gist of my post instead of the verbiage. It's probably not a deflection, right?

[ronnykmarshall]

32. I think so, huh?

I'm sure this will explode by the time I get home.

I need to stop off at Olive Garden and pick up dinner, so I'll probably miss a lot.

On a side note, I heard "Fat Actress" is coming out on DVD.

[Blue-Jay]

57. I have an idea!

Call me a "bitch" and then I'll start a thread to bitch about it. It'll be just like old times on DU.

[ronnykmarshall]

60. Bitch!

[Joe the Revelator]

2. Birds of a feather.....

The entire lot of them disgust me. They are so Rovian and just asinine

[PresidentObama]

3. DU reminds me of Republicans in 2004...

[OKNancy]

5. This is a group attack on Clinton supporters

and that is just not right. It's a small group who do this kind of thing as is the small group of Obama people who do it.

I don't understand why people just don't ignore the bs. No responses will stop it you know?

[Gman]

6. Wow, and my threads on Obama's Pity Strategy get locked!

as flame bait. Go figure. How long before this one gets locked?

[aquart]

7. What a viciously untruthful remark.

What hatred rules, its practitioners stick at nothing.

Which "Clinton people" would that be, dear?

LINK?

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. you know what, I am not going to take this crap from you.

Clinton's statement had nothing to do with politics. She talked about Bhutto personally. She knew her and knew her family and talked about how the world lost with Bhutto gone. And it was genuine and sincere.

Clinton has been above the fray today.

Obama / the media / are the ones politicizing this.

Where you come up with the idea the a great leader's death causes Clinton supporters to cheer--is disgusting.

[Renew Deal]

10. Here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3895110&mesg_id=3895126

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. so, let me get this straight

To suggest that untested Obama is going to loose out is cheering for the death of Bhutto?

You are twisted. And that is ugly.

[Renew Deal]

22. Lose out on what exactly?

The context of that post if the assassination of Bhutto.

[ronnykmarshall]

20. Thank the goddess that the Obama supporters all walk on water!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3892650&mesg_id=3892847

[Captain Hilts]

11. Thank you. nt

[aquart]

24. An assassinated FEMALE leader.

Yeah, the Clinton campaign must really be cheering that concept.

I expect the next Obama campaign talking point to be that we can't vote for Hillary because someone will shoot her.

[babylonsister]

28. Above the fray? It's being politicized by the Clinton camp:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3894014&mesg_id=3894014

[ChairmanAgnostic]

33. every single public statement she makes is weighed, measured,

tested, and preplanned.
so was that one.

that is why a growing number of democrats and americans in general refuse to consider her, or her election tactics.

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. so what? They are waiting for one little screw up so they can pounce.

What the hell do you expect?

[annie1]

17. excuse me? what the f are you basing that on?

[Renew Deal]

23. Here's another one from the Clinton campaign.

Shit blows up and the Hillary people remind you it's a time of war again.

“Now is not the time for political attacks, it’s time to pick a president who can give us a new beginning in a time of war and a troubled economy,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/a-week-out-obama-targets-edwards-clinton-2007-12-27.html

[aquart]

26. So Obama said it was a time of peace? What?

What bizarre crap is your mind seeing?

[ClarkUSA]

36. How very true. Hope springs eternal, as Evan Bayh so clearly demonstrates.

Wonder how many "outrage" alerts have hit the mods by now? Very very perceptive OP. Exactly the kind of sunlight that Hillaryworld hates which is
why they and their minions are screaming like stuck pigs -- minus the lipstick.

[Name removed]

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[Renew Deal]

39. Except Evan Bayh

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/hillary_backer_bayh_assassination_reminds_us_that_we_need_hillary_lest_gop_paint_dems_as_weak.php

And Phil Singer, and her supporters.

[Jamastiene]

40. nice post hitler

"the Hillary people?" :wtf: is that? Talk about a broad brush sweeping generalization...

[Renew Deal]

41. lol

I speak greek.

[Nailzberg]

42. Certain people do, but your words use a broader brush than I am comfortable with.

[rodeodance]

43. you are making a BIG assumption!! Also, seems to me it was an Obama polical

strategist that laid down the first gauntlet!!

[mtnsnake]

45. Most of the anti-Hillary people ARE republicans.

That much is obvious.

[LaPera]

50. Nope....The Republican RNC wants Hillary to be the nominee.

[mtnsnake]

52. Like I said, most of the anti-Hillary people ARE republicans

any which way you'd like to spin it.

[Renew Deal]

56. Many of her supporters are too

Buchanan said she's the conservative choice in the Democratic race. It makes sense that conservative Democrats support her too.

[mtnsnake]

73. Nope not one is. Democrats have no need to bring down the biggest nightmare of the Republicans. nt

[Cameron27]

48. Trying to connect those two statements

is pathetic. Clinton's people were NOT hoping and praying for a terrorist attack, especially against a woman they admired & Bayh wasn't the only one trying to score poliltical points today. Obama's campaign manager wasn't exactly acting like a saint in that department himself.

[cali]

49. So you're using Benazir's death to take a political swipe

and that makes you better, just how?

[Renew Deal]

64. I'm not doing that at all.

I'm politicizing the politicization of Bhutto's death.

[Perry Logan]

51. Note the false ascription of base motives--based entirely on the OP's ability to read minds.

[Perry Logan]

54. This is AXELRODGATE THREAD #6

[Missy M]

55. The only thing "crude" is your statement....

plus it is just plain stupid!!!

[creeksneakers2]

61. That's an ignorant post.

Do you actually hate Hillary enough to believe she hopes and prays for a terrorist attack or do you just like to spread garbage? You say spinning a current event and hoping for a terrorist attack are the same thing.

[Renew Deal]

63. Do you know how to read?

Where did I say that "she hopes and prays for a terrorist attack." I'll be waiting.

[creeksneakers2]

65. "It was crude then and now is no different. ''

If A = B then accusing B is the same as accusing A.

For what other reason did you include "prays for terrorist attack?"

[Renew Deal]

66. I included it because it's true.

The pukes were hoping and praying for a terrorist attack to help Bush. :shrug:

[Karmadillo]

70. Your post reminds me of Republicans in all years.

nt

[SaveElmer]

71. Actually it is the Obamawards supporters who are using it for political gain...

Immediately making the bogus claim you made in order to bash Hillary...

Very typical...and in keeping with the scuzzy campaign being run by their paramours...

[BenDavid]

72. No but you had a silly sombitch like axelrod out there trying

to say because of hrc's vote about iraq the death of bhutto could be laid at her feet. What a silly phoney sombitch who in effect blamed his own candidate obama for bhutto's death because of obama's votes in funding to iraq. This is so stupid.I see Axelrod leveling serious criticism at Obama, although that's not his intention.By blaming Clinton for what she has done in the Senate, he brings up the question of how much culpability Obama has for the continuation of the Iraq war and its effect on Pakistan.
Obama is apparently not to blame, and the only logical reason is that he is powerless in the Senate. So... Hillary could wield great power, and get our troops to the Pakistan border, but Obama has no such ability. Is Axelrod trying to sabotage Obama with this kind of talk? Either that or he's plain incompetent.


You don't blame your opponent for a political murder for which there is no direct connection between the assassin and your opponent. One wonders if Axelroad is a political opportunist, or just plain dumb. I s'pose the coup d'etat in 1999 can also be blamed on HRC. Axelrod's attempt to grossly oversimplify the Pakistan problem - it's all al-Qaeda's fault and, by extension, the US's fault - makes him seem sophomoric. Using this assassination to try and score points against Hillary will backfire,