Pakistan Crisis Makes The Case For Biden, Not Bush or Hillary

[skipos]

This is from the Huffington Post website. All the candidates have votes and stances I disagree with, but I have been leaning towards Biden more and more lately. Personally, the Pakistan crisis doesn't change my tune one bit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/pakistan-crisis-makes-the_b_78456.html

Let's give credit where it is due. Joe Biden has been light years ahead of all presidential candidates in both parties, warning about Pakistan for years, being the only candidate to seriously raise the issue in the debates.

My hope for Iowa is that Obama and Edwards make a caucus alliance for change, joining together during the Iowa caucus at the local level to maximize the change movement.

There is no doubt, however, that if any national candidate was right about Pakistan, and earns major presidential credibility, it is Joe Biden.

The fact is, the Bush obsession with Iraq has endangered both the Afghanistan war, and Pakistan, as Afghanistan deteriorates because of lack of attention and allied support, and the problems spill over the border to destabilize Pakistan.

While Hillaryland will no doubt try to exploit the Pakistan crisis against Obama and Edwards, Hillary was guilty as charged from 2002 through 2006 for supporting the Iraq obsession, and guilt as charged in 2007 for joining the Iran hysteria and supporting the Lieberman-Kyle resolution.

It was Joe Biden and Joe Biden alone among the presidential candidates in both parties who warned, and warned again about the dangers of Pakistan, who offered constructive proposals to get out of Iraq, and opposed the Iran hysteria of Lieberman-Kyle.

If serious, deep, credible, long term national security experience is elevated by this sad and tragic event, it is not those who succombed to Iraq and Iran hysteria who should be touting their "experience".

It is Joe Biden who was far ahead of the curve, and far ahead of all other candidates, about the gravest danger in the region, which is the nuclear and unstable dictatorship of Pakistan.

[Joanne98]

1. Has Biden said who he thinks killed Bhutto?

[1corona4u]

2. Exactly right, and everyone(media) is totally ignoring him....

I hope they all get smacked in the face on jan 3rd!!

[Dhalgren]

3. The unfortunate murders in Pakistan are not calls for any candidate.

We just need a real President - not a Commander in Chief - a real, honest to god President. Anyone who says that murders in a foreign country means we need this or that candidate to be President, is simply wrong...

[1corona4u]

4. You're wrong.

If we had a leader, none of this shit would have happened. None of it. WE need a leader like JOE.

SEE?

[Dhalgren]

6. I agree that the Bush regime is complicit in the Bhutto murder, if only

because of their fumbling, criminal mismanagement and greed. But to assign some political gain to any politician from these murders is just wrong. See?

[1corona4u]

9. Well, maybe you're not paying attention then,

The MEDIA are the ones picking winners and LOSERS. Go write to them and express your disgust.

[Dhalgren]

14. If Senator Biden were here, he'd tell you to stop.

He is too good a man for this...

[1corona4u]

19. If you don't like it, stop reading the god damn thread.

[Dhalgren]

20. Way to promote your candidate...

[1corona4u]

21. He sells himself.

For those willing, and open minded enough to pay attention.

[Dhalgren]

23. And for those willing to wade through the blood of murder victims

to see their candidate's advantage? Thanks, but no thanks, Bush has already done that to death, as it were...

[1corona4u]

24. Whatever.

[kad7777]

28. Dhalgren - I know I speak for many Biden supporters.

The American people and people around the globe desperately need the best qualified person to lead the free world. It is for our love of country and people around the world that we believe so deeply that Joe Biden can make our world a better place. He has to be seen. He has to be heard. This is not a selfish thing for any of us. Quite the contrary. We yearn for the world to be healed. We know in the deepest part of our hearts that Joe Biden is the best we have and maybe...just maybe... he'll be able to mend our broken nation and help others around the globe towards a better way of life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

[Dhalgren]

31. I like Biden. If he receives the nomination, I will support him.

I have always liked Biden. Back during that silly plagiarism thing, I was fully on Biden's side. I have heard Biden speak on the Bhutto issue and he spoke with grace and skill and heart. He knows what he is talking about. It was just that all of these various candidates' supporters were milking this tragedy for political capital that made me just freak-out. I KNOW Senator Biden would not and has not done this. I guess that is why I tried to blunt what, to me, seemed a disservice to your candidate.

Sorry if I offended anyone...

[kad7777]

32. Thank you for that kind reply

Not too many people have class on this site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

[gateley]

10. We need a President who is aware of the situations around the world and

how actions and repercussions could affect our country. Biden has been talking about Pakistan for quite some time, encouraging dialogue and more diplomatic communication. Perhaps if he HAD been our President, he would have had a closer relationship with Musharraf and Bhutto and maybe the conditions wouldn't have escalated to the point they have.

Biden would be a real, honest to god President -- in every area.

[Dhalgren]

16. Senator Biden would make a damned fine President - that I believe.

But I also believe that he would not exploit this tragedy in any way. He is too good a man for that..

[gateley]

26. I agree. His statement on her assassination was a nice tribute to her, and

not an opportunity to say "we need a president who will...."

[1corona4u]

27. Yeah, I just noticed that someone else....

got that in a few times, while mimicking what Joe said, again. I just wrote THAT candidate, and unloaded both barrels on him. I also told him he would NEVER get my vote. Never.

[PatSeg]

25. It truly is an unfortunate tragedy

and should not be exploited in way for political purposes. However, I think the point some posters are making, is that Biden has warned repeatedly about the volatile situation in Pakistan, and this is not the only crisis that a president has to be prepared for.

I understand that you might have misunderstood what people were saying here, but we are all afraid for the future of the world and truly want to be sure that someone with knowledge and experience will be in the White House.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. I think it makes the case for everyone but Edwards and Obama

[Dhalgren]

11. I think that it "makes a case" for no one. These were terrible murders

in a foreign country, why try and make political gain through fear mongering? Anyone who promotes a candidate based on these unfortunate murders is fear mongering - whether they know it or not...

[Evergreen Emerald]

17. I don't think it is fear mongering.

I don't think people should use it for political gain. But, I think that with the mess Bush created, we need someone with experience to dig us out of it. And every day, when we see how the mess manifests itself, it brings the idea home that we cannot trust a novice.

[Dhalgren]

18. I agree that the Bush regime had much to do with these awful murders.

But can't we give a rest to "these murders benefit" this or that candidate? We need a real President. that is a given. Let us not use the murder of a foreign leader to promote one or another of "our" candidates. That's all I'm saying...

[calteacherguy]

30. Where we fundamentally disagee, Emerald

is that this "experience" you speak of will somehow help the next President more effectively find new ways to solve very complex problems.

I don't buy that argument. We need a President who will listen to a wide variety of viewpoints, and exhibit sound and decisive judgment. Hillary has not shown me that, but I see it in Obama.

We need a new direction. The old ways of doing things have obviously failed miserably. My greatest concern with Hillary is that she is too cautious, timid, and stuck in conventional thinking. I don't think conventional thinking will work anymore.

[bunnies]

7. Agreed. I was just watching him on Tweety...

and he was very impressive.

[Steely_Dan]

8. Once Again...

Biden is acting more like a President than he is a candidate.

-P

[youthere]

12. Not "once again"...As ALWAYS.

;-)

[Steely_Dan]

13. I Stand Corrected

You are absolutely right.
-
-P

[NoSheep]

15. I too am impressed. I hope his words can be heard by more people.

I have always admired him for his no-fear approach when trying to get to the bottom of some shit-pile question and answer session. It made me believe he had integrity AND brains.

[Steely_Dan]

22. Well...

I think that he does possess both. We have a fine batch of candidates. But, Biden continues to impress me more and more.

-P

[calteacherguy]

29. Excellent post, Skipos. K&R.