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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:46 PM Original message |
Iowa is the only state Edwards can win |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. And you know this, how, exactly? |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The OPer doesn't. It's merely an opinion. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. It's an opinion |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. No need to get pissy. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Yet the OP stated it as hard fact. Of course it's obviously an opinion, |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. i'm sure smart people can tell an opinion vs. a fact |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You really seem to have an attitude problem, huh? |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I didn't have that problem before someone misrepresented my post |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You let an internet discussion forum post get you that worked up? |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Yeah, a lot of us do |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Actually, I'm not upset, because I'm not an Edwards supporter; still undecided. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Here's another opinion: You are not undecided |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. So now you get to tell others WHO they support? |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:05 PM Original message |
I'm guessing who you support. Not telling you who to support |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. No. I'm NOT an Edwards supporter. I am resolutely undecided, tending toward |
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Mythsaje
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, get you some dobuts... |
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no name no slogan
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wow, I didn't know all black people spoke with one voice |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. In polls, Edwards does extremely bad among blacks n/t |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Poll don't decide elections, voters do. |
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Skittles
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Mon Dec-31-07 06:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
110. the black folk I know are all over the board |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. Sadly, this is common sense. Edwards goes nowhere after Iowa. |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I think Obama goes no where if he doesn't win Iowa. |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Thank you. You prove my point. |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So what happens if Edwards wins Iowa, Clinton wins New Hampshire, Obama wins South Carolina? |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Edwards' momentum will be lost by the time it gets to Super Tuesday. |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I think Obama and Edwards can compete in a lot of the Super Tuesday races. |
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bunnies
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. NH is Obamas to lose. Not Clintons. |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That's your opinion. New Hampshire is Clinton's to lose. Always has been. |
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bunnies
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Well, speaking as a NH resident... |
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The Ghost
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Sun Dec-30-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
102. I Completely Disagree |
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PurityOfEssence
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Ever heard of a little place called Texas? |
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cascadiance
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
57. They probably said that about Carter BEFORE he won Iowa too! |
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itsrobert
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. LOL, keep telling yourself that |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Are you really expecting like a 20 point surge in NH from an Iowa win? |
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chimpymustgo
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Wrong!! This black woman has supported JRE since he ran for the Senate in NC! |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. George Bush's Iowa win didn't push him in NH |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Nothing is guaranteed. |
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onehandle
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ha ha ha! That's the most ridiculous thing I've read on DU in minutes! |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Then why wasn't George w. Bush not propelled in NH? |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Kerry was competitive in NH before his Iowa win. Edwards is not. nm |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I've seen signs of life in Edwards NH operation in the past few weeks. |
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saltpoint
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. John Kennedy will never win in West Virginia. |
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cali
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm not as sure as you are |
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Andy823
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. When will you understand |
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cali
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. It would be nice if that was true, pangloss |
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TwilightGardener
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. My only hope is that Hillary doesn't win Iowa. If Obama wins, yay. |
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sellitman
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. Not a vote counted and yet he is done? |
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LSK
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Sun Dec-30-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. didnt he win the South Carolina primary in 2004? |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Thanks. I forgot to factor in the likelyhood of Edwards inventing a time machine |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. One, lose the attitude. Two, no votes have been cast. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Are you a psychologist or something? |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Edwards has no chance? Wow, what a baseless piece of opinion. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It took you a while to figure out that I thought Edwards has no chance |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Wow, what an HIGHLY educated post you've just posted. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Haha, typical reaction of those who are losing an argument. Criticize spelling |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I'm just trying to point how increasingly pissy you're becoming. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. And what is the percentage of words that I mispell? |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. "And even if I were pissed, I am right," Stating opinion doesn't make you right. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Again, we can't stop making predicitons and providing opinion until after the votes are cast |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I understand that, but you just suggested you're right. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. And by the way, in internet lingo, "u" is used to replace "you" |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. You can't "lose an argument" when you're post is merely opinion, and no votes have been cast. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Calm down, Kerry. You are about to have a heart attack |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I don't think you can lose an argument when no votes have been cast. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yes, I provided evidence |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Polls aren't the end all. |
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PurityOfEssence
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Edwards: 45%; Kerry: 30%; Sharpton: 10%; Clark: 7%; Dean: 5%; Lieberman: 2%; Kucinich: 1% |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Different candidates, 4 years ago |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. The ONLY one he won....and he is WAY behind here in SC now. nt |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'm sure the minority voters on DU appreciate you speaking for them. |
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antiimperialist
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Let's talk about polls |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. Edwards won South Carolina in 2004. |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. It's the ONLY state he won....and his is WAY behind here now. nt |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. He was "way behind" in Iowa two months ago, too. |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Oh, OK....On a wing and a prayer is what you're going with. nt |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. It's easy to distinguish the supporters of other candidates. |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Edwards has never been 'way behind' in Iowa. It's been a three-way tie for as long as I can remember |
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PresidentObama
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Actually, earlier in the year...Edwards had a commanding lead in Iowa. |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. That lead faded to him trailing by double digits, according to some polls. |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. "way behind" is subjective. |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
49. Here in SC, his home, only state he won in 2004, he is WAY behind... |
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Also, in his other home--NC, He gets 3% of the African American vote. |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. And he says WHO is living in Never, Never Land??? |
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
54. The 2008 election will be decided by pissed-off white voters |
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phillyliberal
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
55. well the thing that troubles me |
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elizm
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. And why would African Americans think Edwards would do more for those in poverty... |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Just as I thought. |
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
76. And your proof for these assertions is? |
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Mon Dec-31-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
107. Let's check the map |
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melody
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
78. There's no doubt in my mind that a win in Iowa means he's got a fair shot at the nom |
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Maddy McCall
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I do second this. |
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TeamJordan23
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Sun Dec-30-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Which state would he win after Iowa? nm |
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melody
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Sun Dec-30-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. The momentum after Iowa would tell us ... we didn't think he'd win Iowa last week n/t |
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Sun Dec-30-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
89. I hope you are wrong - in 2004 Dean was in and Kerry done in the popular press |
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Sun Dec-30-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
90. Kerry could win NO state in 2004. Then he won Iowa & what finally happened, exactly? |
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Sun Dec-30-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
91. As an Edwards supporter... |
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Sun Dec-30-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Race |
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Sun Dec-30-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Well said, spoken like a true Edwards supporter. I'm proud of my fellow Edwards DU er's. nt nt |
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MalloyLiberal
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Sun Dec-30-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
93. Racist a little? |
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cali
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Sun Dec-30-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. there's nothing remotely racist about the OP |
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Sun Dec-30-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
95. Hogwash! |
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Sun Dec-30-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
96. And your opinion is crap. in Arizona, speaking for hispanics, Edwards State Chair is Rauel Grijavla |
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antiimperialist
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Mon Dec-31-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #96 |
105. And Hillary destroys Edwards in Arizona, according to latest poll |
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Mon Dec-31-07 05:01 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. I make no claims as to Edwards performance in AZ. He is not campaigning here but he definitely has |
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #105 |
118. these polls at this point don't mean a thing. |
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Sun Dec-30-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
97. Ha ... |
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Omaha Steve
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Sun Dec-30-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
98. A lot can happen before August 2008 and Denver |
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Bluebear
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Sun Dec-30-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
100. "White people are just not attracted to Barack Obama" |
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Sun Dec-30-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
103. If the media wants him to win more than Iowa, he will. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I think you're on to something. |
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Orangepeel
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Mon Dec-31-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
106. primaries aren't winner take all. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
108. Edwards has support from the African-American and Latino communities |
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Zero chance he wins any AA support if Hillary or Obama are in the race. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
112. Iowa changes everything and he is not that far behind in NH |
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cali
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. actually it doesn't.. |
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Dawgs
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #112 |
122. 10% points IS far behind win NH is only 5 days after Iowa. |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
113. Governor Carter seems like a nice enough guy, but he's obscure and |
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cali
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. comparing what happened three decades ago with the radically |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
116. Gary Hart defeating Mondale in New Hampshire? |
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book_worm
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
117. what an illogical post. Doesn't even take in the historical evidence: Edwards won SC |
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cali
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. um, no. unlikely. Kerry wasn't running against candidates with very |
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book_worm
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #120 |
129. um, yes, if Edwards wins Iowa |
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cali
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #129 |
139. JK had a leg up in NH- he was a favorite son. JE is not. |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
119. But Governor Branigan is Indiana's favorite son. No northeastern liberal like |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #119 |
130. Now that Governor Dean has the lead and the momentum in Iowa, he'll |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Santorum's star is rising. He's third in the GOP leadership in the Senate and |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
121. John Glenn? Love the guy. Astronaut, American hero, All-American freckles. |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. John Kerry's Senate career is done for. Bill Weld will crush him like a grape. |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
123. Feingold? Nah. He has those funny ads, and yeah, they're ok, but his opponents |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Off the record, we Republicans here in North Carolina are mostly Jesse Helms |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Kennedy over Nixon? But he's a Catholic! |
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durtee librul
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #125 |
134. Hey Old Crusoe.... |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #134 |
138. 65 Rambler. Now there was a car. Good to see you, too, and what a wild |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
126. We Iowans have always liked Dick Gephardt, yes. Why, he's a neighbor -- |
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JNelson6563
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #126 |
135. Fun stuff OC |
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saltpoint
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Hey there, JNelson! A warm howdy and a Happy New Year! |
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Mon Dec-31-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
127. Uh-oh. Carter's had it now. No less a Democratic powerhouse than Ted Kennedy |
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. OK, McCarthy and RFK are drawing a few people to a few rallies. Maybe |
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
132. Just read the polls. George Allen's a shoe-in for re-election. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #132 |
140. I don't care how often you repeat inanities, it won't change |
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Mon Dec-31-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Oh, what bollocks. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
133. I don't care how well-intentioned Wellstone is, Rudy Boschwitz's seat is safe. |
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Mon Dec-31-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
141. But gentlemen, this is the nomination for the highest office in the land. |
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