If you are considering voting for Bloomberg

[LoZoccolo]

then fuck you I'm a Democrat.

Big up this thread with recommends if you agree and then they'll have to look at it up there on the front page! Let's show our Democratic unity!

[Flabbergasted]

1. So is Bloomberg. nt

[LoZoccolo]

2. Somebody go edit Wikipedia then!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

[slick8790]

16. It says right there that he was a democrat way longer than he was a republican.

1963-2001 vs. 2001-2007.

[roguevalley]

42. he switched to pug when he couldn't get the dem nom. he's a dem

[slick8790]

45. Yeah. That said, you'd have to be insane to vote for him.

[roguevalley]

51. absolutely. has no core values, that one. sound familiar? :-D

is there a pug who truly believes anything anymore? Makes you lonesome for Goldwater.

[Mz Pip]

3. Not this week

He used to be before he switched to Republican before he switched to Independent.

Maybe he'll switch to Green next, or the Natural Law Party. There are a few more obscure parties he can try out before the general election.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[JDPriestly]

13. If Bloomberg is a Democrat, he should have run in the

Democratic Primary. That is what Democrats do. We do not need another spoiler. These blue dog Democrats were silent while Bush stole the country blind, tortured, destroyed the Constitution, lied and killed. Now, suddenly they realize that Americans are awake and ready to vote for the Constitution, for justice, for good government. And so they want to take advantage of it. They have corporate America behind them, the same corporate America that held its hands out while Bush poured America's wealth into their hands so they could hide it overseas in their numbered bank accounts. No thanks guys. We Americans are awake now and we are on to your lies and tricks. We want our America back. We do not want Bloomberg and Nunn and that liar Gary Hart.

[JamesA1102]

36. Bloomberg was responsible for illegal detentions in NYC

during the GOP convention in 2004. He is not to be trusted.

[annie1]

47. yeah, dude is definitely not power to people

[rucky]

55. Why waste all that cash?

entering the fray with a strong field, but a polarizing label attached to it, when you can just waltz into the General as an independent and bask in the attention that comes with being a bona-fide Presidential candidate?

He's no fool.

I'm not supporting him, but I understand the strategery.

[sniffa]

4. my, my. someone has a new foil

go with it. :thumbsup:

[Armstead]

19. Nader will feel abandoned

[Tejanocrat]

5. Against whom? I'd vote for Kucinich-Bloomberg before I'd vote for Lieberman-Zell Miller.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Yeah because Lieberman is running in the primary. n/t

[Tejanocrat]

9. There is a feather's weight more evidence that Bloomberg will run as compared to Lieberman

[Deja Q]

6. Ooh! Ooh! Anything else you want to tell us to do?!!!

:party:

Wait, isn't that the sort of fascism everybody loves to blame on everyone else these days?

I'll vote for whom I think is the best candidate. Period.

Convince me (and others) to do otherwise without acting all pompous and fascist and you might get more takers. Militant action is for humorless wankers.

[Lost-in-FL]

7. Better him than Nader

[Moochy]

10. Yeah FUCK NADER RAWR !!!aiiiiieeee assplode

(insert obligatory internet tough guy chest beating here)

[Kucinich4America]

11. I'll say this much for Bloomberg

At least he actually changes parties when he thinks it's politically expedient to do so. He doesn't claim to be a Democrat while voting like a Republican.

That said, I doubt I'd vote for him. A billionaire corporatist from NYC isn't exactly my idea of a good candidate.

[TwilightGardener]

12. I'll consider him, if I'm not sold on our nominee.

I'll consider the Repub, too, for that matter--however briefly. Nothing wrong with considering and thinking it through--I'm an open-minded gal, and if I really like the person, party becomes less important. Almost always, though, after all of my deliberations, I vote Democratic.

[dkf]

14. If its Hillary I'm with Bloomberg.

Anybody else and I'll go Dem.

When the Clinton's tried to deep six Howard Dean I realized what awful people they were.

I'll never ever forgive them for that.

Of course that is only the beginning of my gripes with them. But that is where it all started for me.

[BringBigDogBack]

30. I'm in the same boat.

[annie1]

50. what don't you like about her that would be any different with him?

[Perry Logan]

33. Thanks for responding to that call for unity.

[annie1]

44. and you know he's nafta,and beyond. he's for as much free trade as possible.

[AlCzervik]

15. "Big up this thread with recommends" Ali g called, he said stop it.

[Moochy]

21. I thought he retired with Borat

Maybe they are on the same island with Ken Lay? :+

[no name no slogan]

17. Score one for Oasis

[C_U_L8R]

18. As a NYCer, I just don't get the Bloomie appeal

I mean, what has he done?
Nothing ! Sure compared to Ghoulie,
Bloomie seems like a saint, but
I am really at a loss to think of
one remarkable thing the man has
done for the city. Even one
semi-remarkable thing.

[JamesA1102]

37. I agree.

I live in NYC too and he really has been a poor caretaker. He cut back services while raising property taxes on middle class home owners to give tax breaks to big corporations. Plus he had the NYPD illegally detain thousands of people during the GOP convention in 2004.

[annie1]

46. well for starters crime is not only way down, but continues to fall....

and he didn't do it by throwing everyone who jumped a turnstyle into jail

he set up 311 for us
started to plant 1 million trees
raised teachers salaries by 15% in his first term
got rid of our 2.3B deficit
got rid of smoking in bars (thank goodness)
started OpportunityNYC and GreenNYC
got rid of a ton of giuliani employees
has spent a lot of time trying to get back control of public schools,and raise test scores

he's done a lot, the city looks very nice and feels nowhere like it did under koch, dikins or that facist pos

[JamesA1102]

52. And as most independent studies have shown

the drop in crime began in 1992 and is due to the additional 5,000 cops on the street that Dinkens got the funding for.

"he set up 311 for us"

That was long in the planning stages before Bloomberg got in office.

"started to plant 1 million trees"

So far very few trees have been planted.

"raised teachers salaries by 15% in his first term"

Only because the UFT gave him no choice and he has repeatedly tried to tie bonuses and raises to the results of standardized test scores ala Bush's No Child left Behind program.

"got rid of our 2.3B deficit"

First the deficit number is way overblown and he got rid of the smaller deficit we did face on the back of middle class home owners at hearing held in the dead of night.

"got rid of smoking in bars (thank goodness)"

He imposed his own morality on the whole city and hurt or put out of business many small independently owned businesses in the process.

started OpportunityNYC and GreenNYC

Again, both were in the planning stages long before Bloomberg took office. It's like giving Nixon credit for the moon landings just because he was the guy there when the program came to fruition.

"got rid of a ton of giuliani employees"

So he got rid of people experienced in running the city and replaced them with people loyal to him. Just like Bush did when he took office.

"has spent a lot of time trying to get back control of public schools,and raise test scores"

As any educator will tell you teaching kids to score well on a standardized test is not real education.

[annie1]

53. well, you got me. guess he sucks. all that stuff was set up before him...

giuliani rocks then. sorry to hear you lost your mayor to term limits.

i can't even bother going to dubunk all the shit you got wrong, cuz it's too much, but oppy was started in april of this year, so your nixon analogy is crap.
http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behold.pl?ascribeid=20070329.104544&time=11+49+PDT&year=2007&public=0

[JamesA1102]

58. Don't put words in my mouth

Never said Giulani rocks. He took credit for many things that were started before he took office too.

[annie1]

59. then i guess the good things of ny

are dinkins leftovers. wow, he's got the longest lasting record of all time.

[JamesA1102]

60. A lot of things are.

From Wikipeadia:

"Although many commentators (and proponents of Giuliani's presidential bid) have suggested that the New York City Police Department's adoption of CompStat, broken windows policing, and other strategies during the administration of Rudolph Giuliani were responsible for the drop in crime, independent statistical studies have found that these initiatives "probably had little effect" on New York City's crime rate. These studies found that the dramatic reduction in crime was strongly correlated with the increases in the number of police officers that started under Mayor Dinkins"

http://samoa.istat.it/Eventi/sicurezza/relazioni/Langan_rel.pdf

And to be fair the Times Square and 42nd Street revitalization projects were started under Koch and didn't come to fruition until the mid-90s.

[JAbuchan08]

54. Remember his defense of Con Edison last year?

that really ticked me off!

[sandnsea]

20. A more liberal candidate than Hillary???

I'd have to consider it.

[dkf]

26. Forget more or less liberal. How's about less dirty?

I hate the way the Clinton's do politics. They go low. Too stinky for me.

[sandnsea]

28. I don't know Bloomberg well enough to say n/t

[dkf]

29. Well if I hear he is as awful as the Clinton's maybe I would reconsider.

So far the only people I rate as dirtier than the Clinton's would be George Bush. Lee Atwater was before my time so I'm not sure how that went.

Oh, and I guess Nixon too.

I read in Daily Kos that someone got a push poll slamming Edwards and Obama and when the caller asked if they knew anything bad about Clinton, they declined to add anything.

I knew the Clinton's were dirty and nothing shocks me anymore.

[Yukari Yakumo]

22. Whoever says "Yes", regardless of the conditions they set themselves, deserves to be tombstoned {nt}

uguu

[Milo_Bloom]

25. So tombstone me.

Nothing in the rules of this website state how someone must vote. However, if someone comes along and starts posts stating that people SHOULD vote for Bloomberg over democratic candidates, that is one thing, but what they personally choose to do and how they answer a question when it is specifically asked is different.

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Thats bullshit, I thought that we were smart enough to not blindly follow candidates into the abyss.

[Forkboy]

43. Fuckin A!!!!! Kick Ass!!!!

Fuckin' sweet fuckin' shit goin' on! Fuck yeah!!!

[LoZoccolo]

56. EXTREME KAYAKING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPtgawGMmIM

[Forkboy]

61. I feel that way with every post of yours I read.

A mixture of shock, disgust and amazement.

[LoZoccolo]

62. That was actually the wrong link, lol.

I should make a reaction video of a Nader speech though as they are all the rage lately!

This is extreme kayaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO2Abp0FbA0

[Milo_Bloom]

23. Depends on the nominee.

Edwards, Clinton, Biden or Dodd, Bloomberg is an easy choice.

Not sure about Obama, it would entirely depend on how hard he hits the religion in the GE. If he harps on religion, Bloomberg will be the only choice.

[Hippo_Tron]

24. If the convention is brokered and somehow we nominate Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman I'd consider it

But I will vote for any of the Democrats currently seeking the nomination over Bloomberg.

[Joe the Revelator]

27. A (D) next to someones name doesn't earn them my vote

I vote for progressive candidates. If we're dumb enough to nominate the less progressive candidate in the race, then why should that person get my vote automatically??

[BringBigDogBack]

31. Nor I.

[LoZoccolo]

32. I didn't say that people couldn't vote for whoever they wanted to.

I'm just saying if they vote for Bloomberg, I say to them: fuck you

[Name removed]

34. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[flvegan]

38. I wish I could nominate this post.

[LoZoccolo]

48. It got deleted.

lol

[sniffa]

41. you're speaking for us

Wolsh '08

[LoZoccolo]

49. Who is Wolsh?

All I see is "Name removed", lol.

[Infinite Hope]

39. I'll vote for Bloomberg just so YOU have to look at him on the FRONT PAGE!

:hi:

[Forkboy]

40. K&R! Fuck! Fuck YOU! Fuck me! Fuckin A!!!!

Fuckin' unreal, man! :thumbsup:

[Moochy]

63. Fuck a Duck In A Truck!!

K&R for the truck-based DUCK FUCKING!

[JCMach1]

57. Bloomberg can kiss my donkey a$$