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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:00 AM
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Huckabee: "If you suction out the pieces of an unborn child for no reason than its inconvenience..."


When Russert then asked why he would ban all abortions, Huckabee responded, "that's not just because I'm a Christian, that's because I'm an American. Our founding fathers said that we're all created equal."

He believes that a ban on abortion would not be an example of imposing his faith on Americans, but that his pro-life stance is "a human belief. It goes to the heart of who we are as a civilization."

"If you take the life and suction out the pieces of an unborn child for no reason than its inconvenience to the mother, I don't think you've lived up to your Hippocratic Oath of doing no harm," Huckabee said.

Therefore, he said he would support "sanctioning" doctors who perform abortions.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Mike_Huckabee_Homosexual_behavior_is_choice_1230.html
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:09 AM
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1. I'd like to inform that self-centered idiot
That our culture doesn't mind children being hungry,lack medical/dental care and if abused his kind cuts taxes which pay for the services of protecting children. As a child of poverty I can tell him it would have been a hell of a lot better for me never to have been born. So he can take his stupidity and stuff it where the sun don't shine.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:28 AM
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4. Don't Say That!
Unless you are a criminal who has harmed those weaker or worse off than you, it would not have been better for you to have never been born.

Although Pro-Choice, I am uncomfortable with the poverty justification for abortion because it seems to imply that rich kids can live and poor kids can die. However, I am also angered by the lack of care for impoverished children who have been born. To be fair, Huckabee has spoken out against poverty. He is on record making statements against trickle down economics on the basis that poor children can't wait for those drops to reach them. Of course, now that he is running for the Republican nomination, I'm sure all that has changed.

As for abortion, I just don't think it's for the government to say when a woman has a good reason for terminating her pregnancy.

I would like to live in a country where no woman feels the need to terminate her pregnancy because she can't afford the child. NOT in a country where she is forced to carry the child she can't afford to term because she's not allowed to do otherwise.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:25 AM
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6. I don't see any "poverty justification for abortion" . . .
Edited on Mon Dec-31-07 01:27 AM by defendandprotect
When we are saying that Repugs have little concern for the poor that should stand on it's own as a not very pro-life statement.
Not to mention the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and 2 million Iraqis dead ---
and our own soldiers who our press must ignore in their coffins!
This is no "pro-life" president nor GOP and we can certainly frame that the way it should be framed.

But let's also face the reality that many women have had to face ---
Iraqi women, for instance now, forced into prostitution to keep their own lives going.
Can we really imagine the mayhem they are facing. Much the same and even worse, perhaps, for
women in Afghanistan.

Chinese women --- and I presume many other women --- have had to face
having no food to feed the children they already had.
Let a newborn die slowly of starvation?

"Can't afford" doesn't always mean money. It may mean emotional strain.
It may mean trying to escape a horrible marriage or abuse.
It may mean physical exhaustion and lack of strength.
It may simply mean fearing for the children one already has.

I hope with you that 2008 may bring a better world for all of us, but especially for those already living and suffering.









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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:13 AM
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5. Weren't we also experimenting on some of them fairly recently?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:14 AM
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2. If a man could become pregnant -
Oh, what a different world we'd be in!
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:16 AM
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3. I agree.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:27 AM
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7. It Has Been Said That If We Could, Ma'am, Abortion Would Be A Sacrament....
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:30 AM
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8. And a Constitutional right! n/t
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:35 AM
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9. "inconvenience to the mother" is projection.
It is men who take conception lightly, not women (except, perhaps, the Spears family).
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 07:26 AM
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10. And it comes from a man, who will never have to seriously consider
what it would feel like to have to spend nine months carrying, and then giving birth to, a child he never wanted. It is very easy for him to sit back and be judgmental about what a woman who finds herself pregnant should do, or should have done--as in, if she didn't want a baby, she should have abstained entirely from sex.

I'm not unconvinced that part of the reason men like Huckabee have such a cavalier attitude toward telling women with unwanted pregnancies that they have to carry a baby to term is that they really, truly believe that if women don't want to become pregnant, they should abstain from sex entirely...and not only that, but it should be EASY for them to do so, because truly "good" and "nice" women don't have the sex drives men do. After all, that's what they've been taught all their lives.

In their book, if a woman has a sex drive strong enough to cause her to risk an unwanted pregnancy, that makes her by definition a slut, and if she becomes pregnant, carrying the child to term is her rightful punishment.

Oh, they might not admit it on the stump, but if you got some truth serum into these guys, I suspect they might say as much in private.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 07:35 AM
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11. The arithmetic isn't all that tidy, but it's tough for anyone to win the White House
without independent voters.

I don't think a lot of independent voters oppose Roe v. Wade.

This hysterical unhistorical mini-rant by Huckabee may charge up the fundie nutbags, but the long-term viability of his candidacy is threatened every time he opens his mouth. Many of the Republican Party's county people are extremely wary of this guy, and of course he's an ideological horror for our side.

I think he's genuinely unstable. And dangerous in the arena of public service because he would seek to impose a private limitation onto public service, and not only in regard to women's reproductive liberty.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 07:39 AM
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12. In that picture, he really LOOKS insane!
I know he is anyway, but in the picture he also looks it!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 07:41 AM
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13. Yes. It brings out the feral and degenerative aspects of Huckabee's personality.
This guy really is bananas.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 07:45 AM
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14. The Nazis imposed the death penalty on abortion doctors.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 08:03 AM
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15. It amazes me that the same people who make statements like
this don't, won't or can't translate their "pro-life" stance to the act of picking up pieces of born children who have been killed in a war of convenience which they support.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 08:06 AM
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16. Save the fetus, abandon the veterans -- pretty much a major plank in
the Republican platform.

And all the more vivid when advanced by a looney-tunes tool like Huckabee.
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