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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:22 AM
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In a primary, Kucinich might have spoiled Obama's victory and put Hillary at #1.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:23 AM by LoZoccolo
I still like Hillary, but a lot of people who like Kucinich don't, and they should think about Kucinich's role in this primary season when it finally comes down to the vote totals. If Iowa was a primary rather than a caucus, things might have been different.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:25 AM
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1. Oh, goody...more nonsense.
Well done.

:thumbsup:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:30 AM
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4. You mean like this nonsense?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:45 AM
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7. Nonsense like...
...the fact that Kucinich told people to vote for Obama?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:02 AM
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8. No, he didn't.
Spin like that, go work for Fox.

It was a second choice. Seems others did the same.

Score one for Oasis.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:13 AM
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10. Sure but there were no first choices for him.
He got 0%. And I think he knew that he wouldn't get much because he got 1.3% last time! Or maybe he can tell us which precincts he was certain to get 15% before the caucus.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:45 AM
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12. When a state fucks you, it fucks you.
No debate, a caucus on tv that fucking forgets to mention where your supporters should stand?

Yeah, okay. Score one for Oasis.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:17 AM
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16. I missed that one.
So there was a caucus where they didn't tell Kucinich supporters where they should stand, and none of them bothered to ask? lol
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM
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2. C'mon, say it. You know you want to say it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:29 AM
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3. OK, I'll say it.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:29 AM by LoZoccolo
EVERYTHING SHOULD TASTE LIKE BACON!

http://www.baconsalt.com
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:32 AM
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5. omg!!
i just stopped eating meat a week ago and bacon was my favorite thing and now i see there is bacon salt, awesome!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:05 AM
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9. So, does that really
make everything taste like bacon???

First I have to get my head out of the gutter - and then say I'm serious because we can't eat bacon anymore and turkey bacon doesn't really get it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:14 AM
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11. I don't know, lol.
Someone just gave me that URL tonight so I wanna try it myself!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:33 AM
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6. Kucinich spoiling Iowa and giving it to Hillary? It MIGHT have happened...
...and Hawkeyes MIGHT fly out my butt!

:eyes:

(I've been wanting to use that line ever since working on the Wayne's World computer game... ;-) )

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:48 AM
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13. Nothing you just posted made any sense.
Score one for Oasis, I guess.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:58 AM
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14. Does not the DNC award delegates based on percentages
. Edwards , O'Bama will still get their just deserts. A win for Hillary by one percentage point, just awards Hillary , maybe one more delegete. Vote for who you want. Edwards or O'Bama will not get our enthusiatic support of primary vote until they improve their health care positions. Our vote and money will stay with Kucinich.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:00 AM
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15. "O'Bama"? Is he Irish or are you being obtuse?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:19 AM
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17. Nader, Kucinich and Bloomberg walk into a thread
:boring:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:51 AM
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23. You forgot Chavez. n/t
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:53 AM
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28. Bloomberg's not running.
But since when do facts have anything to do with LoZoculo's flamebait threads...



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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:43 AM
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18. My aunt could have been born with a dick
but then she'd be my uncle, I suppose.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:47 AM
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20. Well, maybe we'll see the Kucinich spoiler effect in New Hampshire then. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:47 AM
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19. A primary rather than a caucus?
You've gotta be kidding me.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:49 AM
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21. I do not see what is so incredible about my speculation.
Kucinich's votes got subsumed by his inviability and absorbed into totals for other candidates. Kucinich himself instructed them to vote for a specific candidate, Obama.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:51 AM
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22. The incredible thing is that you seem to think they are separate and distinct things.
I'm stunned... really.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:53 AM
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24. Yes, in some sense.
I do not recall gathering in a room and standing in groups, and candidates being eliminated on the basis of inviability here in Illinois however.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:00 AM
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25. Do you not have precinct conventions in Illinois?
I always go back for mine. Hardly anyone does though...
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:44 AM
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26. Sorry Kucinich would not have gotten 9%
and even then you'd have to assume all those votes went to obama in the second round, which certainly would be unlikely from kucinich's independent minded supporters
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:45 AM
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27. How? He came in with less than 1% of the vote. That wouldn't make up the gap.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:58 AM
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29. NO! 7 votes out of 555 in my precinct in Johnson (mega-blue) County
as opposed to Obama's 267 votes and Hillary's 112. I don't think he would have done significantly better in the conservative western counties!
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