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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:41 PM Original message |
If you are an Obama supporter and you support your gay brothers and sisters |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Where is the "hope" for LGBT people who have victimized |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Actually for me, my hope IS in Obama. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. That's your right |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. If seperate but equal is good enough for the GLBT community, it's good enough for me. They |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Who says *that*? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I just said that. You quoted me accurately. Anybody who'se GLBT who would support |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Oh. A purist. OK. |
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Anouka (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. I thought they were talking about the ENDA controversy myself. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. I believe he is talking about marriage. |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
68. or maybe they realize that there are other important issues too and that no canidate is perfect on |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. The South Carolina "debacle"? Exaggerate much? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. These are the facts |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The official announced public policy of seperate but equal, announced on a |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. Gravel supports gay marriage too... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Thanks for the correction. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
5. Here is the part you are missing (or denying) - |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. K and R. I don't need an apology; but I would like him to... |
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AAARRRGGGHHH (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. I take LGBT issues extremely personally |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. Kick |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. Kick |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. Sorry but no I wont |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. "God delivered me from homosexuality" |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. We don't believe in discrimination we don't believe in hatred,and if you do you are in the wrong pla |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. You didn't answer his question |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. of course i didnt |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The fact |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. your faux outrage worked the first 20 times |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. then move on |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. More finger pointing |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. How does my outrage ring? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. at least you recognize the fact that |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I knew I should have included that SARCASM smiley thing. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I've never portrayed him as a bigot |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. If i believed for a second you were sincere |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. What you're not getting |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. then WTF is your problem? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Your irrational anger notwithstanding |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. No - you tried to defend the INDEFENSIBLE...it's quite different, really... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. yes the indefensible |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. His statements before and after the incident compounded the problem |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Yes poor you |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Sorry, but I don't rely on people such as yourself |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Clearly |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. I don't think many GLBT |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Again you don't want to support Obama |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. I have very clearly stated |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. No - it's people like YOU who try to defend the INDEFENSIBLE who are DISHONEST and DISGUSTING... |
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Countdown_3_2_1 (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. No one hates you. Stop whining and get over it. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Go woo a woman or brew some beer. |
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Anouka (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. back up -- what is that supposed to mean? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Yea! What the fuck is wrong with us being opposed to |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Yeah. No one hates us. And there's no such thing as racism or sexism either. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I don't think anyone cares if you hate us |
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Countdown_3_2_1 (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I don't hate you, nor does Obama. He never threatened gay rights. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You already have your rights |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. Human rights is not a "special interest" |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. I do not agree there was a "debacle." And if you think our President is going... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Ah, the old "you gays are screwing up the election" schtick again. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Well, you gotta ask yourself...."How did that tact work for us in 2004?"... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. You just let us know when it's OK to speak up again, alright? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Nice to see the Pod People haven't gotten to you yet, Bluebear. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Oh, your "gay friend" huh? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Yeah, because Kerry wrapped himself in the rainbow flag in 2004 |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Maybe gay activists like us should leave the party and take our money with us. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Just like when the homophobes went nuts over the NJ gay marriage ruling in '06 |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. You're right about this part: |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
77. Either you support us FULLY AND COMPLETELY or you don't. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
26. My gay sister and her partner are committed Obama supporters |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yeah, and there are gay republicans too. So what? |
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Anouka (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. The 'so what' is that they weighed him, and his positives outweighed mcclurkin. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. Well, it might help if you did not compare Christianity to a concentration camp |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The OP didn't call christianity a concentration camp |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. You are right. I was mistaken. I should have read the OP more carefully |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Yo Mr. Ignorant: he IS talking about ex-gay camps. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. You are right. I was mistaken. I should have read the OP more carefully |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. What can he do without alienating other groups of supporters? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. I don't think that's unreasonable |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. I appreciate your apology |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'm a lesbian and an Obama supporter |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. thank you. You are right, Obama has said he doesn't share McClurkin's views. nm |
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Anouka (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. please do have your say anyway |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
92. Ok |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Do you have a link where he saysy he does not agree with McGlurkin? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
86. Here ya go... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
87. Thanks for speaking about this n/t |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well, most of America is homophobic and won't care about this. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Which is exactly why we have to keep it on the front burner |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. Nice to see so many Kucinich supporters here today! |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R for Donnie McClurkin...n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
84. If Obama apologized for the McClurkin event, would you then consider him pandering? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Absolutely not |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. It would be nice. |
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