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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:34 PM
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I guess some Obama supporters have been posting here that NH was stolen.
What an embarassment. There is absolutely no evidence of that. Just want everyone to know most Obama supporters aren't like a few looneys who may post here occasionally.

Congratulations to Senator Clinton on her win there.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:36 PM
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1. The votes are being kept in #7 World Trade Center.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:37 PM
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2. Like all threads about this subject...
...this thread will soon be locked and/or consigned to the "Election Reform" Forum.

Enjoy it while you can!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:39 PM
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3. I think the amount of talk is exaggerated.
There were some. Just like there were some Clinton supporters accusing Obama of bussing people in Iowa.

I think there are also people who were concerned about NH just in principle, despite its outcome.

I remember several threads worrying about NH's system days before the primary.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:39 PM
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4. No no no
The regular voter fraud DUers have been looking into this and the supporters of a candidate who is not Obama have been involved. I spent an hour and half last night looking through threads on this and I can tell you, Obama supporters were not pushing this in the hundreds and hundreds of posts I saw.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:41 PM
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5. Actually you are confused...
some people have been paying attention for the last several election cycles. There have been numerous problems with our countries voting apparatus. Perhaps you might like to read up a little bit on the election of 2004? Then you might understand why people are concerned. Peace.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:48 PM
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6. Actually, you are the one confused...
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 07:49 PM by Xipe Totec
I have been paying attention for the last several election cycles.

There have been numerous problems.

But the New Hampshire primary is not one of them.

If you want to prove a point, you should pick your strongest case, not your weakest.



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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:54 PM
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8. My only case...
is the security of our elections. If you place your faith in a system where your vote can not be assured to be tabulated...that's fine. I do not. If nothing changes through this primary cycle we will get what we always got. Perhaps that is good enough for you...it is not for me. Think past Obama.....it's bigger than him.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:51 PM
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7. #1. I haven't seen ANYONE say it was stolen. #2. I'm not an Obama supporter and am concerned
about any election that doesn't have random ballots handcounted for an audit.

#3. a lot of people seem to think the exit polls now mean a fucking thing- they don't.

#4. a lot of DU'ers will just have to shut the fuck up if 2008 is stolen via electronic voting.
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DivorcingNeo Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:56 PM
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9. Do you feel better about yourself now!?
I don't think there was any ballot funny business but really...we have other things to worry about than a few conspiracy theorists!

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:57 PM
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10. Actually I think it has mostly been non-Obama supporters
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:01 PM
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11. Questioning ANY voting irregularity is a very healthy thing
Especially in light of 2000 and 2004. It really does not matter what the irregularity is (or anomaly) if it seems totally out of reach, it should be closely examined. Election totals and/or results should be beyond reproach. That's my new standard and I have no problem defending it.

To say let's look at something totally unexpected and see how and why the projections were off is not the same as saying the election was stolen. It does not rule out the latter, but it does let in all possibilities, including that one but not exclusively to the point it rules out all other options.

Banal explanations as to why unexpected results were achieved simply do not cut the mustard.

And, finally, squelching conversations on this subject while the opposing party is actively giving lip service to that possibility makes this party as a whole look second-rate. I personally have no desire to appear to belong to a party that simply ignores anomalies; I want something a lot cleaner than that.

I have no horse in this race. But if that kind of result happened to my candidate, meaning he or she benefitted, I still I would need concrete answers.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:03 PM
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12. And I truly and really believe that if Obama read some of the lying,
crooked, corrupt and flaming crap his supporters spew he would be very embarrassed and upset. What you want to bet.
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DivorcingNeo Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:07 PM
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13. Oh really?
Please give some examples and start with me. I'm always prepared to take the first step to self examination. *raises a brow and taps finger on desk*
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:56 PM
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14. All I've seen is Hillary supporters SAYING that Obama supporters
are saying that.

I've not seen any of the posts they are talking about, however.
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