There's a lot of bitterness and sour grapes over the Kerry endorsment

[Bullet1987]

WOW! Do you people have that much hate that you have to trash someone as respected as Kerry because he didn't endorse the person you want to win? DU is becoming unbearable with all of the anger and rage I see on a daily basis.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Exactly...

[jlake]

2. It is really sad. I know tensions are high, but there is NO reason to

attack Kerry because of his endorsement. Disagree, offer civil critiques - fine. But the attacks are uncalled for against our Should-be President and one of our best senators.

[avaistheone1]

5. Kerry should be embarassed.

What the hell was he thinking in 2004. What an ass.

jmo

[defendandprotect]

40. Agree ... Kerry was wrong here --- and it's an attempt to do harm to Edwards, IMO ---

[Bonobo]

9. You're right. There are lots of reasons to attack him besides that.

[jlake]

30. I don't think so. The media and corporate/lobbyist $$$ is behind him.

[NYCGirl]

3. Absolutely!

[politicasista]

4. Yep. It's Bash/Trash Kerry Day at DU n/t

[sandnsea]

10. Bash/Trash Kerry Day #12,397 n/t

[politicasista]

43. Yep n/t

[rockymountaindem]

6. "Respected as Kerry"

Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have respect for him for whatever reasons, almost all of them totally vapid.

Edit: the predictable repetition of distortions and lies about Kerry both before and after my post in this thread illustrate exactly what I mean.

[Bongo Prophet]

7. You've been here since 06 - Kerry threads always bring out the obsessives

It is pretty nasty and unfair, but predictable.
Then of course the 3 way clusterfuck of primary.

Blend on high.

Voila!
Poo frappe.

[NYCGirl]

12. Apropos of nothing, Bongo Prophet, I really like your Myrna Loy avatar!

:hi:

[Bongo Prophet]

27. She was a great democrat and humanitarian!

Oh, and one of the greatest actresses of the 20th century.

And I gotta admit -- a childhood crush.
:blush:

Thx, sweetie

[jgraz]

8. No, there's a lot of bitterness over Kerry's lame-ass 04 campaign

Dude should have had his politician's license revoked after that. Somebody who screwed the pooch that badly has no business injecting himself in an actual relevant political process.


And yes, I'd have said exactly the same thing if he'd endorsed Edwards.


STFU, JK.

[rwheeler31]

11. When things are not ok they are not ok.

[Dob Bole]

13. I'm happy about Kerry's endorsement, but that doesn't make me like him any better...

Actually, I'm just logging on and have missed all the trashing/bashing. I really think that he should have told Edwards first though...it would have been the decent thing to do.

[NYCGirl]

15. How do you know he didn't? NT

[Dob Bole]

23. politicalwire.com nt

[NYCGirl]

24. Sounds like exactly what happened when Gore endorsed Dean. NT

[Bitwit1234]

14. Who cares. Kerry is a loser.

he didn't have the guts to fight back when bush and rove were swiftboating him. He didn't have the guts to request a recount he conceded too soon.

I was disappointed he got the nomination I was hoping Howard Dean would. But look at how the doodle boppers are hying Obama. Who will also lose the presidency if by some miracle he gets the nomination.

And it also shows that Kerry's balls are made of jelly. A man stands up in public and makes fun of him, telling the country he is a divider then he kisses up to that person and endorses him. So birds of feather I guess two jelly balls.

[madrchsod]

26. "doodle boppers"....dam i must admit

you come up with some really good ones.....

kerry has jelly balls? you know something we don`t know about you and john?

[Darth_Kitten]

16. It was a cheap move............

Edwards was his running mate. The CLASSY thing to do would have been to have SHUT UP.

It's not about hate, it's all about tackiness.

[NYCGirl]

19. Yeah, and that goes for that cheap Al Gore, too! What a tacky thing he did

to Joe Lieberman.



















:sarcasm:

[Darth_Kitten]

36. The hype over Obama cannot keep up.........

it's too manufactured.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

17. 'I was for Obama, before I was against him'

[chimpymustgo]

21. He was for Edwards before he was against him.

Tacky, wind-surfing, no-fighting dude.

[durrrty libby]

18. Leno and Jon Stewart just made jokes about it. Saying it was the end of Obama

Kerry gets zero respect from the media, even the comedians are brutal

[NYCGirl]

20. That three million name database is going to come in very handy. NT

[LiberalFighter]

38. I'm not on it anymore.

Just sent an unsubscribe when I received his Obama endorsement. He would had been better off holding off until the primaries were over.

[opihimoimoi]

32. LOL...Kerry is the Kiss of Death...a POS..and lower than Bush

[depakid]

22. Yet another inane, thin skinned comment

Some of us see the endorsement in context for what it is- and what it isn't.

[madrchsod]

25. i think i understand why he did this

and i think he`s correct. .

only a small percent of people actually hate, the others are passionate about their candidate. and yes it really is hard to take sometimes

[BlueStater]

28. Because it was a tacky slap to Edwards

And he looks like a desperate opportunist jumping on the Obama bandwagon.

I'm one of the man's biggest defenders here but I lost a lot of respect for him from this move.

[Rowdyboy]

29. Meeeeh.....just people over-reacting....

Kerry wasn't my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice in 2004 but after he won the nomination I backed him and even sent him a few bucks. He certainly has a right to his make his choice known and respected in this race. He's earned that right and more. I understand Kerry and Edwards weren't particularly close as running mates and don't have a problem with the endorsement at all.

Congratulations to the Obama people.

[ArkySue]

31. It's really no different than...

the trashing of other respected progressives that have endorsed Clinton, to wit: RFKjr, Wes Clark, Joe Wilson, and Krugman (although he didn't endorse Clinton, he just criticized Obama's policies). Don't deny it, I've seen posts all over the blogosphere trashing these people, calling them sell-outs, and worse.

[trayfoot]

34. Kerry

I was disappointed about Kerry's endorsement today - and nobody fought any harder for him than I did in '04. I believe he should have continued to play the "statesman" and not have endorsed ANYONE (until the GE)! I am not committed to any candidate at this time, so I don't say this from a position of bias.

[politicasista]

35. Sometimes we have to do things that may not be popular, but what

we consider is best for the country. It's ok to disagree, what I am offended by is the attacks on his courage, integrity, judgement, and other childish name calling that would be found at Free Republic or other RW sites.

And he still is a class act statesmen. Those that are attacking could copy INTEGRITY from him also.

[MS Liberal]

33. Kerry did Edwards wrong! He has lost my respect.

I am a Clinton supporter and would have been disappointed in him if he had supported Clinton over Edwards while Edwards was still in the race. Where is his loyalty! He chose to run with Edwards in 2004. If he could not endorse Edwards, he should not endorse anyone.

I hope Al Gore has learned his lesson and only endorse the nominee. If Hillary was not running that is what Bill Clinton would do. Just goes to show how low Kerry is on the power chain.

I was dreaming of an Clinton-Obama ticket but now I dreaming of a Clinton-Dean ticket. Howard Dean has done an excellent job as head of the party and if something happened to Hillary it would be nice to have someone who thinks like me to take her place. Clinton-Dean, thats a balanced ticket.

[riverwalker]

37. I just watched Kerry's speech

Awesome, just awesome.

[TwilightZone]

39. Some people never got over the '04 primaries.

And some never got over the '04 general election.

[TreasonousBastard]

41. Some have that hate, and I can't...

for the life of me understand why they get into these religious fervors over politicians acting like politicians. They hold politicians to higher standards than their family members, business associates, religious leaders and pretty much everyone else, when they should be happy if the standard was just a step higher than used car salesmen. (If only it were that high...)

Some of them are apparently useless parasites wasting my air and electrons spewing pure stupidity over the net because that's all they're capable of doing. They were around trashing Kerry in '04 stomping their little feet and running their huge mouths about how he couldn't campaign, talk, raise money, or do anything right, and btw, shouldn't be the nominee anyway. Some are back now, with little more to offer than wasting bandwidth again.

Some are pro and semi-pro shitstirrers who, for love, money, or both, just like to stir the pot and sit in their little holes in orgasmic delight as we tear each other up over whatever nonsense they started.

And then, there are those here who I never would have thought would stooped to bashing Kerry at this time. I thought they were above that, but I may have been wrong.

[politicasista]

42. There is a lot of bitterness BECAUSE it's Kerry, not a DU liberal darling

that endorsed Obama, instead of their candidate. The same people who bashed him before (i.e. Don't Taze Me Bro) come out of the woodwork everytime Kerry does something positive or opens his mouth.

Whatever he does, it's either too little (or four years) too late, or it just is not good enough or not close enough.

I have come to the conclusion that there will always be Kerry hatred here, but no matter how much crap gets thrown at him, he keep on standing and getting crap done, being the statesman (yes statesman) and class act he is. Yes, that is leadership without the screaming, yelling, name calling or other childish RW mems found at Free Republic or other vicious sites.

And I agree with the poster above, I never thought I would see reasonable posters bashing Kerry over one endorsement. And yes, they would be singing a different tune. In fact, Edwards was very classy in his statement. It's too bad that his "supporters" couldn't follow his lead. Same with some of HRC's "supporters." Others were very gracious, others not so as you can see today.

It's always funny reading people here complaining and moaning about the media and smears, but yet repeat the MSM's inane drivel like it's true (aka buy into everything it fabricates). If people were so serious about "fighting," they would stop repeating the smear, and attack the people doing the smearing, instead of the victim.


And as I have said, over and over, the double standard here is tiresome.