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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:43 PM
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Stop expecting Clinton to fight Obama's battles for him. Isn't he an adult?
Clinton is supposed to call off the teachers in NV. Clinton is supposed to call off Murdoch papers bringing up questionable backers of Obama. It's all Clinton's fault. waaaah.

Obama is going to have to learn how to fight his own battles instead of calling on Clinton to do it for him because these issues are coming up in the general election 50 x worse.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:43 PM
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM
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4. Well that's productive
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:48 PM
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8. Oh bigdarryl. I think you need a nap.
you post was over the line. No matter how stupid you get, I never tell you to shut up.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:28 PM
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22. Ah. Finally!
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 06:30 PM by Kahuna
A permanent nap! :D
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:48 PM
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9. Thank you, Obama.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:51 PM
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14. dahh ok...
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM
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2. This is how entrenched Clinton is in the system.
She can't change it...she owes everybody and everybody owes her.

Right now she is calling in all her chips and making everyone do her dirty work. She IS the status quo.

Yuck.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:48 PM
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7. She has chips to call in? Sounds like someone who can get things done n t
nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:57 PM
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17. Sneaky underhanded things yes.
But it is all rooted in keeping power in the hands of her allies. ergo status quo.

I want change. Not just incremental change either...FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE.

I want there to be as few obligations as possible so that we can do things objectively. That is why not accepting lobbyist money is very important to me.

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM
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3. How do you make such a statement and keep your opinion that Hillary will be an ethical President
that carries your message to DC. She has learned well the sleaziest of tactics from Rove and the DLC. Yet, her supporters think she represents them ... that's the joke. The Christians think Bush represents them.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:49 PM
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11. I think it's irrational to blame Hillary Clinton for not controlling Murdoch papers eom
eom
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:59 PM
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18. AndI think it is irrational
for Hillary supporters to defend voter suppression and then try to say "It's all just politics... Obama should engage in the same practices". Or "Why doesn't Obama stand up for himself" or "Obama has a glass jaw" (great, a boxing metaphor!)

My god, are so many of you just like Rove and his ilk? Everything is fair game, no tactic is too sleezy.

Maybe you should write the Hillary campaign and see if they can cross coordinate the database of known Obama supporters (public record) with criminal records... you can even suggest a company that does this already... like Choicepoint. It's legal. And then come here and crow about how your candidate is the obvious choice because she is willing to do anything to win.

I thought we were better than this.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM
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5. That's your construct. it bears NO relationship at all to reality.
Not one person I know of expects her to call off the teachers. Not one person expects her to call off the Murdoch papers. Clinton will reap what she's sowed. Continue whining about it, it won't help. I'm glad people can see her campaign in all its dubious glory. Go for it Hill!

Obama is fighting his own battles just fine. Now when is Hill going to stop using Bill as her last bulwark? Why does she need him to fight her battles with Al Sharpton and other members of the AA counity.

Thanks for that "concern" of yours. Neither Obama or his supporters is in any need of it. You'd be better off applying it to Hill.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM
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6. "Isn't he an adult?" Legally, yes. But the temper tantrums and pouting...
not so much.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:48 PM
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10. I agree with you that it will probably be Obama in the GE.
At that point ALL Democrats will be helping to fight the battle, instead of each other.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:50 PM
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13. You don't agree with me. I give that about a 4% chance right now. eom
eom
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:51 PM
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15. You said
"Obama is going to have to learn how to fight his own battles instead of calling on Clinton to do it for him because these issues are coming up in the general election 50 x worse."

That assumes he will be the one running in the General. I agree with you.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:56 PM
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16. "In the event" is implied but grasping at straws is the Obama reflex these days
a'ight din
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:59 PM
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21. Just givin' you a hard time.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:49 PM
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12. You outdo yourself every day, murkin.
Thats some serious devotion.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:59 PM
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19. Bill says he's a 'kid'. n/t
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:59 PM
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20. thank you for seeing the true obama ... a guy much like bush ...
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 06:03 PM by flordehinojos
blame-be rescued-excuse himself.

in this game obama points the finger at clinton, he is rescued by the main stream media which gives him a pass, piles on on hillary, while he excuses himself like a new born babe just diapered up and talcumed up.

(and by the way, i think timmy russetlearned a thing or two today, mainly, that hillary is not going to play his game ... something which didn't make timmy very happy. he did not end his program with a smile, a football joke, or a handshake. he just ended with a very dry, "thank you." if that isn't sexist prejudice. i don't know what is.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:57 PM
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23. Yea Obama, stop crying!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:58 PM
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24. She's behind all of it...
unless you think its a coinedence that her campaign lawyers are helping with the law suit.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:11 PM
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25. Americans are "helping with the lawsuit" and Murdoch does what Murdoch wants to do
Obama needs to stop hiding behind Hillary's skirt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:24 PM
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26. Painful Rectal Itch?
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 04:25 PM by YOY


Maybe you need Raymond's help!!!


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