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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:00 AM
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Why Edwards MUST be the nominee
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 01:05 AM by sjdnb
Both sides of the Obama/Clinton hissy fit have exaggerated, attacked, smeared, and one-upped each other so as to make BOTH unattractive to a general electorate - it's all about them -- what about us?

Add the fact that NEITHER have anywhere near the progressive plans, policies, or positions as JE, they are just diverting our attention from electing someone who might actually champion for average folk and fight for the 'little guy' for a change.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:02 AM
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1. You realize that @10% of the population is paying attention right now, right?
Edwards had @ 85% name recognition in the polls many months ago. Yes, apparently some people don't remember the VP they voted for a few years ago.
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origin1286 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:03 AM
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2. I'd vote for Edwards
But please, be realistic Edwards' supporters.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:04 AM
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3. Very true
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:06 AM
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4. this reminds me ...I had to go to Walmart for something tonight
...I hate going there because something about that place depresses me.

Anyways, as I was watching the employees and customers there, I got to thinking about how these are the people John Edwards is fighting for and these people probably don't even know and probably won't even caucus ...

Now I know why I am depressed.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:27 AM
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6. If they pay no attention, only believe lamestream media, and don't have internet access ...
..or USE the internet, then they are totally oblivious. I wonder how many of them actually even vote?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:36 AM
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9. struggling
So many people in the country are struggling just to keep their heads above water. Meanwhile, we informed, educated, motivated people here - the more fortunate ones who have the benefits of time and better access to information - have trouble figuring out the truth, reaching any consensus, or even behaving civilly toward one another.

I won't blame the people shopping at WalMart for the problems in the country.
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jules1962 Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:28 AM
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19. i understand
Just to let you know that I work at Walmart and you would not believe how many of the hourly associates are democrats. I live in a red state but the main feeling around here is for Edwards. I have a JRE window sticker on my back window where many people can see it daily. The associates are very vocal in the lounge about politics and almost all are dems at my store. We would like to see more pro-union activity (for reasons I don't have to explain). Though the company is more repug than dem as far as the talking heads, do not discount the hourly associates. We number over 1 million.
jules1962:toast:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:21 PM
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23. Welcome to DU jules!
Glad you're getting Edwards's name out there... goodness knows the corporate media's trying hard to get him out of the public eye FAST!

:hi:

:yourock:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:51 PM
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33. And those votes are the ones we want.
Welcome to DU and thanks for your support of the Senator's campaign!! :hi:
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:10 PM
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21. I've boycotted WalMart for years. I know what is depressing about it.
Everything it sells is made in China and its employees, women, in particular, are exploited. The prices are great, but not worth it, ultimately.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:26 AM
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5. He represents something 'soothing' and familiar? n/t
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:28 AM
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7. I'm voting Edwards, but not having much hope
There is no workers party in this country anymore and this year is proving that.
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WAKEUPAMERICA Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:08 AM
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8. please don't dispair!
hello i am new here, but i couldn't help but post to you folks here tonight

you should go to www.blog.johnedwards.com GET ENERGIZED! Get informed!

we're very enthusiastic about John's campaign right now!

instead of going to walmart and putting money in hillary and obama's pockets....oh maybe you didn't know?
hillary was a board member and both have taken walmart lobbyists money for their campaign.... well save your money

no wait........spend it! give it to john edwards!

and here's why and what is happening right now......you can read about this here http://kingoneeye.dailykos.com/

its a movement to fund raise 7 Million for John Edwards in one day!!! we're going to beat Ron Pauls $6 mil record
that will get him media press!! and it will help fund his campaign to the white house!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:48 AM
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10. Actually, the policies of the top three have far, far more in common
than Edwards supporters generally are willing to admit, and for that matter, Obama's history is much more progressive than Edwards. However, the Clintons are willing to destroy Obama's political viability and severely damage the party to get what they want. Anyone doing any reading about this would recognize that. Edwards is beginning to look better- and god knows he's much better than Clinton, but he doesn't have enough time to gain the necessary traction.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:52 AM
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11. They probably do have more in common...
It's his rhetoric that's the strongest...and we both agree that it's important for the American people to hear that rhetoric. They have to have the chance to finally grasp what it is we're up against.

I hate what I'm hearing out of both camps right now. Just hate it. It's not helpful to anyone.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:54 AM
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12. Please read this diary from kos
I think it makes it clear what's going on.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/14/05152/9935/925/436403
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:58 AM
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14. The only thing that it makes clear is that both sides of the argument
are coming from a place where no compromise or acceptance of the other p.o.v. is possible.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:20 AM
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15. I think that's missing the obvious which is amply documented. n/t
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:41 AM
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18. It's being used to drive a great wedge between people here...
Racial insensitivity does not necessarily equal racism... You've got one side claiming its all motivated by inherent racism on the part of the Clintons (which is pretty damn hard to swallow), the other claiming that it's being deliberately overblown or manufacturered out of whole cloth (also damn hard to swallow) and neither side willing to talk to one another about it.

Again, people are forgetting that it's about the people, not the fucking campaigns...not the celebrities--sorry, I mean candidates--and their retinues. The people HERE are at each others' throats. Here and, from what it looks like, on KOS too.

I'm all opposed to bending one's neck for the Republican knife, but if we can't communicate amongst ourselves, what the hell's the point to all of this in the first place?

It's become so partisan it's ridiculous. You support Obama, so you're firmly in that camp. That's how this is shaking out--neither side bending an inch.

It ain't good. And it doesn't look to be getting any better any time soon.
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:10 PM
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32. As far as I am concerned, HRC and BO can keep at it
and at it and at it....JRE will rise above the fray and that'll be all it takes to get him the nomination.

Sorry folks, but I DO think Obama not only knows the race card, but plays it quite well, and HRC plays her race card as well with her ties to Bill and his past record. She EXPECTS loyalty from people in repayment for all Bill did. Period.

This entire thing just makes me ill beyond words. Anyone and everyone knows race IS an issue in this country and if it weren't race being discussed, it'd be gay marriages or abortions or someone would be swiftboating someone else. This entire thing reminds me of Rove and his dirty tricks...or good ol' Lee Atwater.

I grew up in Montgomery AL back in 62 and I can tell you all about getting crosses burned on our front yard because my parents decided to have a dinner party and invite the 'wrong' people....or how about when my 4th grade teacher told us all in class that she couldn't teach 'niggers' becuase their hair was curled too tight and nothing could sink in. With apologies to all, that is EXACTLY what was said, and in case anyone wants to know, her name was Mrs. Flowers and she taught at the school located on Maxwell AFB. Oh, and just to mention we lived on the base at the time and my dad lost a stripe due his 'dinner' guests.

And now, how far have we come? Nowhere. And as long as the HRC's and BO's of this world don't come out and acknowledge the elephant in the room, race will always be a player...albeit 'unspoken.' I am sorry, but race is race and we all pick on illegal aliens which in my book is the same as discrimination whether it be by color, race or religion.

HRC and BO should just shut the hell up and let it die and when MSM keeps at it, ignore the SOB's and walk away. Period. Keeping the tirade up thru aides and campaign workers isn't helping either of them...and if y'all think the candidate doesn't know what is going on in their camps, think again. The stakes are waaay too high for them NOT to know. I've worked campaigns and I can tell you, the candidate knows all..whether they admit to it or not is another thing.

Again, my deepest apologies for the n word. It is NOT part of my vocabulary. I thought long and hard about writing it, but .... again, my apologies.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:55 PM
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34. I can't even imagine having to witness such hate
as a child. :(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:22 PM
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24. Healthcare sets them far, far apart!
Can't blur that distinction. :)
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:46 PM
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30. They do have a lot in common-
Now! Edwards says it, the others wait for the response of the American people, then they adopt his policies. This is made easy for the other two, because of the media blackout on Edwards.

It's the perfect scheme.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:57 AM
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13. JEDNE. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:22 PM
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25. What does that mean?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:30 PM
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35. M$M: John Edwards Does Not Exist.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:29 AM
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16. As long as Democrats continue to vote for the status quo, instead ...
of Edwards, things will remain the same in America.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:40 AM
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17. the thread title should be
why edwards must continue to be supported to ensure Hillary is our nominee... because that's the net effect of your argument.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:26 AM
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20. K & R....
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:18 PM
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22. Agreed, 100%!
Obama and Clinton may turn people off with all this ugly, mud slinging.

Turned off? John Edwards is YOUR populist candidate! Mine too!!!

Keep up the good fight!

:)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:21 PM
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26. kick! nt
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:36 PM
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27. I Concur.
John's the BEST ONE!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:39 PM
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28. Agree, its all about them, not about us
I want a candidate who is more interested in helping the middle class and protecting prosperity for future generations, not a candidate who is more interested in advancing their own career.

I also want candidates who are smart enough not to let the news media and GOP dirty tricksters sabotage their campaigns.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:42 PM
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29. Hear hear
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:51 PM
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31. See through the bullshit
and vote for the one the media tries to make disappear. Why are they doing that? Because they are corporate-elite agenda agents and Edwards plans to unlock the corporate-elite stranglehold on America. The corporate-elite has issued to the press statements about their fear and loathing of Edwards because he will tear their power apart. Use your brains, don't buy the hype about the corporate candidates, and vote for John Edwards!
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