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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:16 AM
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NYT - In Defending War Vote, Clintons Contradict Record
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 01:17 AM by JackORoses

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/us/politics/14checkpo...

In Defending War Vote, Clintons Contradict Record

By ERIC LIPTON
Published: January 14, 2008
WASHINGTON — Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton have repeatedly invoked the name of Senator Chuck Hagel, a longtime critic of the Iraq war, as they defend Mrs. Clinton’s 2002 vote to authorize the war.

In interviews and at a recent campaign event, they have said that Mr. Hagel, Republican of Nebraska, helped draft the resolution, which they said was proof that the measure was more about urging Saddam Hussein to comply with weapons inspections, instead of authorizing combat.

Mrs. Clinton repeated the claim Sunday during an interview on “Meet the Press,” saying “Chuck Hagel, who helped to draft the resolution, said it was not a vote for war.” “It was a vote to use the threat of force against Saddam Hussein, who never did anything without being made to do so,” Mrs. Clinton said.

But the talking point appears to misconstrue the facts.

In October 2002, Mr. Hagel had in fact been working with Senators Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, and Richard G. Lugar, Republican of Indiana, on drafting a resolution that would have authorized the war. But while those negotiations were under way, to the disappointment of some Congressional Democrats, the Bush administration circumvented their effort and reached a separate agreement with Representative Richard A. Gephardt, Democrat of Missouri, then the House minority leader.

That agreement resulted in a bill, sponsored in the Senate by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, now an independent, which was slightly less restrictive than the proposal that Mr. Hagel had been helping to develop.

In the original proposal Mr. Hagel had backed, force was authorized only to secure the destruction of Iraq’s unconventional weapons, not to enforce “all relevant” United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, which was the language in the version that ultimately passed.

It was the White House proposal, not Mr. Hagel’s, that Mrs. Clinton supported, explaining in an Oct. 10, 2002, speech on the Senate floor that it was time to tell Saddam Hussein that “this is your last chance — disarm or be disarmed.” The repeated references to Mr. Hagel by the Clintons make it clear that they are trying to distance her from the Bush administration’s handling of Iraq, by associating her with a persistent critic of the war.

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Ooops,

Busted!!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:20 AM
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1. Geez Louise! Hillary can't even get her own vote story right.
That is really sloppy no?
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:22 AM
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3. Sloppy.. and par for the course.
It's a sad day. And I used to defend the Clintons from hilltop to hilltop. I was a fool. What can I say?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:01 AM
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5. Yup that was me during the Monica days.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 02:01 AM by dkf
what an idiot.

I was even "Oh it was just ORAL sex...I guess Bill was telling the truth!"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:22 AM
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2. Boo hoo. She's unraveling.
I heard this a.m. she knew nothing, "NOTHING"!, about Marc Rich. Baloney.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:27 AM
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4. Just keep digging the hole deeper. All you had to do was admit you screwed up
but you couldn't even do that. Obviously arrogance runs in the family. Bill Clinton thought he could screw around with an intern in the oval office, and then lie about it. All he had to do, other than NOT screw around with the intern is just say "no comment"

From their actions alone they believe they are above scrutiny from the public. If they don't want the public involved, then they shouldn't be running for public office


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