Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Should superdelegates be abolished?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:51 PM
Original message
Poll question: Should superdelegates be abolished?
I just did some research to find out what the hell "superdelegates" were. Well, now I know. The question is: should they be done away with and hold the primary only with the just-elected delegates?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. What are superdelegates?
You really oughta include the definition, or a link to the definition or an article or...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Here ya go
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 03:54 PM by dbackjon
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. I purposefully left that as homework. Hence option #3. -nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yes, well...
...I knew why you did it, in fact, I was going to post a note about it in the margin, but there was no room.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. No. They are the elected leaders of their parties. Leave them be.
Concentrate on a national primary instead.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
6. Other - here are the SuperDelegate Criteria
The procedure to be used for certifying unpledged party leader and elected official delegates is as follows:
Not later than March 1, 2008, the Secretary of the Democratic National Committee shall officially confirm to each State Democratic Chair the names of the following unpledged delegates who legally reside in their respective state and who shall be recognized as part of their state’s delegation unless any such member has publicly expressed support for the election of, or has endorsed, a presidential candidate of another political party;

The individuals recognized as members of the DNC (as set forth in Article Three, Sections 2 and 3 of the Charter of the Democratic Party of the United States); and,

The Democratic President and the Democratic Vice President of the United States, if applicable; and,

All Democratic members of the United States House of Representatives and all Democratic members of the United States Senate; and,

The Democratic Governor, if applicable; and,

All former Democratic Presidents, all former Democratic Vice Presidents, all former Democratic Leaders of the U.S. Senate, all former Democratic Speakers of the U.S. House of Representatives and Democratic Minority Leaders, as applicable, and all former Chairs of the Democratic National Committee.


The bolded ones are the ones that should lose SD status, especially DNC members.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. What do you have against Howard Dean? I think he's done a fine job with the DNC.
And those former guys in leadership positions--hell, there aren't that many of them. That's a courtesy more than anything else. I think the world doesn't end if Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton and Walter Mondale and Al Gore get a small say in the proceedings...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Note - I left in the former VP's and Presidents
DNC members are unelected, as opposed to CURRENT Govenors, Senators, etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. So they should get more of a say than anyone else?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. DNC members are elected by the state conventions
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
9. Oh hells yes -- dump them NOW
It isn't right that 760-some individuals get to take up 40% of the nominating for 300,000,000 people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
11. A compromise-- limit their votes to 1/2 that of a regular delegate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
12. No individual should get more of a vote than any other.
Regardless of their occupation.

796 out of the 4051 delegates are superdelegates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
14. Yes, they should be considered non voting delegates
Meaning that they are invited to the convention but not allowed to vote as a delegate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
15. SOMETHING needs to change, that's for sure. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov 03rd 2024, 07:55 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC