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mr715 (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:33 PM Original message |
Dept of Peace, Insanity in Writing |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Have you read the bill in question? |
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mr715 (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yup |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. yeah |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. It's not that peace is bad. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. What's the State Department done to reduce domestic violence? |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That's not the domain of the state department... |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Nice thought, but 2 big institutional problems: |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. the Dept of Peace is about ending urban/domestic violence |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. You lost me--who were the good guys in World War I? (nt) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. so hippies |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. If I could rephrase your own words... |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. War never solved anything |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. and gee....war started all those things too |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. war started slavery? |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. Yes |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Have we really ended any of those things. |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:15 AM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Uh, there's definitely a lot less slavery in the world |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Read this and then tell me |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Oh please |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. And, "please" to you.. |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. I don't believe we're near fascism. |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Uh, good luck--and you wonder why DK is having trouble |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. Uh, no, I RESPECT holocaust victims |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. If you respect them |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. We are being governed by fascists-hello? |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. There were none |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. ignore |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think Kooch is ahead of his time |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. Actually the CENTER For Defense Information used to put on a program |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. BTW..what WAS immoral about the first gulf war was the manner in which |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. How PR Sold the War in the Persian Gulf |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Thanks. I've read it. I'm more concerned with how the thread starter |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Criminy! |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. see, Charlie..even horrible people like myself know that NOT all of the |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Wow |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 03:15 AM Response to Reply #65 |
79. Great study if you want to read it |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Thanks, |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. I believe it is possible to avoid most if not all war with good diplomacy. |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Are you saying the department is for show? |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Of course it would not be just for show. |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's a great idea - we just have to re-name the Defense Department |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. Are you the only one? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. peace? who needs it!?!?! |
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marialicht (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
80. If the word "peace" sounds "wimpy" |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. What a wonderful post! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. I was being sarcastic |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I figured you were, but these days..... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. I think Kucinich |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. A Department of Peace was first proposed by Dr Benj. Rush in 1793 |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. Friend, you need to study your history... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. Actually, that's not why we went into WWI |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. We already have a dept like it, just not at cabinet-level |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Co-Sponsors for HR 1673 |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Pretty impressive cosponsor list. |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You said it. |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. It's turned me off a little. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
70. What 'bogus' spirituality? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. Woohhoo, it's up to $100 for Dennis! |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. Do not confuse peace with passivity |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. The Department of Homeland Security Isn't Ridiculous? |
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Astarho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. Just you |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
39. I just find it silly |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You're right, nothing EVER changes. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 03:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
78. Amazing what anger and dismissal the word PEACE invokes |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. You're right - bombing helpless civilians is much more "sane." |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. Judging by the tone of the replies to your question, I'd say YES. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. LOL! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
75. Good one! |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. Dept of Peace not only humane - but economical. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. How Groups Behave |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Thank you |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Are they really made at cabinet level? |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. If the Decisionmaking Process is Different, |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Thank you for some very good points! |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Each cabinet secretary usually meets with the President every week |
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rhite5 (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. Evolution |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. what happened to the tribes when they faced a people whose intent |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Amazingly enough, over 550 tribes have survived |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. it was a rhetorical question.- you're not advocating what happened, |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Of course not! |
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govegan (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
48. So what land do we live in? |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. I've always thought it was a goofy idea too |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #58 |
76. I guess it would have the potential to be twisted in an orwellian manner |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. Dept of Peace is the best single idea of the primary |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. "Who can be against Peace?" |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. no, the word peace is too often cheapened by hippy-dippy |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. It is a sad state of affairs |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Indeed. (n/t) |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
92. That's not what they said. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. No, the most ridiculous thing ever constructed is the Dept of |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
69. Not insanity, but not a priority for me either |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
71. Yeah, But So Was The Declaration Of Independence, And... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Matter Of Fact, Here's A Doozy !!! |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
91. The Emancipation Proclamation was not radical. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Ok... But As Old As I Am... |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Perhaps... |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Which shows just how far the Republican Party has deteriorated |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
72. I love salsa, by gosh. |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
103. I love noodles! |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
73. From your post, it's clear you haven't read the document. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
85. what in the world does "crystal waving" have to do with a DoP? |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. I guess the Swiss are "insane". Imagine that. |
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