It is my personal belief that people shouldn't remarry after divorcing

[dsc]

not only is it my belief, there is a whole religion which backs me up. Yet, quite reasonably, for years the state has told people like us to mind our own business.

The idea that the personal beliefs of our leaders is a good enough reason for making laws went out with King George. The standard is supposed to be the one enunciated by Dan Rather "who does it hurt?".

The problem with the positions that Edwards and Kerry are taking is that they lose this argument. This isn't about gay marriage any more than the Lawerence decision was about sodomy, the Carr case about placing bets from phone booths, or Griswold was about condoms. All of these are about what reasons are and what reasons aren't acceptable to make laws. The idea that the President doesn't like something, isn't a good enough reason to ban it. It is as simple as that.

full disclosure, I actully couldn't care less if divorces remarry or not.

[kalian]

1. Marriage should be a renewable contract....

say every 5 years you have to renew it. If it doesn't work out,
people are allowed to walk away without any consequences...

[RC]

3. Hate to sound like a repug

But what about any kids?

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Great post.

Your logic is unassilable.

For the record, I am a straight woman.

[dflprincess]

4. Excellent point

The one I've been using with people is, if I, as a Catholic, were married in the Church, then divorced my husband, the Catholic Church would not perform a marriage ceremony for me again (unless I remarried the first guy, or he died so the Church would consider me a widow at that point - or if I got a church annulment.) However, I could marry someone else either in a another church or civil ceremony. The state and most religions would consider me married to husband #2. The point being - it's up to each denomination to decide who can and can't have a religious ceremony, but a state ceremony should not be dependent on religious beliefs.

I've begun to think we should do things the way it's done in Monoco. If you want to be married, you have to have a civil ceremony, then you can have the religious ceremony if you want.

[mac2]

18. Well at least a marriage certificate by the state and then ....

either a civil or religious ceremony. You could just have a civil if you want.

Choices are better.

[DrFunkenstein]

5. It Should Be Up To The States

My levels of irony know no bounds.

[dsc]

6. which of your rights should I get to decide are up to the states?

[DrFunkenstein]

8. The Right To Re-Marry

If I want to get married again, I should have to move to a state that accepts it. I think they do in Hawaii.

[mac2]

19. What?

[jus_the_facts]

7. I say abolish the entire institution...the stats show it's not working....

.....anymore anyway....so why keep discriminating against everyone who's not married...let's make an amendment to abolish marriage altogether....that's what I think should happen....

[JI7]

9. i think it should be civil unions for all

for gay couples or hetero couples, it should be civil unions.

[mac2]

17. I agree about civil marriage,,it's a right.

My spouse wouldn't agree with not being allowed to marry a second time. We've been together over twenty years in March. No kids involved and it was my first so we didn't have the complications others experience in a slit.

Everyone deserves to live their own life as they choose. It's so short as it is.

It's not up to a religious group or the government.

[revcarol]

10. YoHoHo and a bottle of...

EVERYONE MISSED YOUR POINT.

[dsc]

11. Do ya think?

I am glad someone got it.

[TheBigDemo]

14. Funny how they jumped right over it LOL Good Post n/t

[WarNoMore]

12. Well,

if there were any awards for "divorce loingevity" I'd stand a chance of winning--30 years and counting!

[WarNoMore]

13. on edit I

see the typo, but kinda like it.

[mac2]

20. My grandparents were married 65 years!!

I'll never make it because, I married late in life.

[dsc]

22. that is impressive

my parents just celebrated 40, which I won't ever see either. It just amazes me how long some people manage to stay married.

[cally]

15. I know the Bible has more

stringent statements against divorce than gay marriage. I hope we all know that is not the current debate. It's about creating a new cultural war and trying to focus on a hate group. The logic against gay marriage does not hold. I'm very interested in how to make that case to voters.

I would love to discuss divorce. I don't think that's what this thread is about.

[alcuno]

16. Civil marriage is simply a contract between two people.

I believe that marriage in the Church is a sacrament, however civil marriage is a contract. It has not been the practice, or I think the right, of the government to interfere in a contract made between private parties.

[mac2]

21. Seems some states don't see it that way....

Kerry stated that, married couples enjoy 1,000 or so more rights than unmarried couples.

This is terrible denying anyone the same rights others have because of religious belief.

[alcuno]

23. Civil marriage is not an "institution," as some say, it's a contract.

Using the word "marriage" is what many people are reacting to. Like me, they see it through the prism of religion.

[Scott Lee]

24. It's my personal belief that rethugs should not replicate

But that's me.