Tomorrow is Super-Tuesday. How close to the real vote is DU?

[bobthedrummer]

Poll question: Tomorrow is Super-Tuesday. How close to the real vote is DU?

Wes Clark and Howard Dean supporters will have to make decisions tomorrow, but DUer's can vote in this poll, which has most of the Democratic candidates plus Nader listed.

Vote your choice.

[Padraig18]

1. DU bears NO resemblence to the real world, vote-wise.

:)

[bobthedrummer]

2. That's why we all love this place!

:hi:

[Shoedogg]

3. LOL -- I wonder...

..if that's sad for the rest of the world or sad for us. :-D

[MurikanDemocrat]

4. LOL! DU has NO resemblance to the real world.

[Evil_Dewers]

10. LOL! DU has NO resemblance to the real world

LOL @ yourself. When 20% of DU'ers vote (in one of the many unscientific polls here) that John F. Kerry (the most liberal US Seantor--more liberal than Teddy Kennedy) is a DINO, that is a great indication that DU is out of the mainstream.

Vote for Nader, and then bitch about Bush for another 4 years, you masochistic martyrs.

[bobthedrummer]

11. Even in this unscientific poll Nader is not a factor even when offered

ABB.

[Mairead]

12. "the most liberal US senator--more liberal than Teddy Kennedy"

Not according to the conservative Orlando Report:

That said, there are plenty of votes to suggest that Kerry is more of a moderate and is willing to break from liberal orthodoxy, including his support for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings in the mid-1980s for deficit reduction, his vote for welfare reform and his votes for NAFTA and other free trade agreements. Given these votes the assertion that he's more liberal than Ted Kennedy does not withstand scrutiny. Kerry was a founding member of the moderate Democratic Leadership Council. (emphasis added)

http://www.orlandoreport.com/profiles/john_kerry_voting_record.htm

[Evil_Dewers]

13. Not according to the conservative Orlando Report:

Hey, I love DK, but he looks like he belongs in a Lord of the Rings or Star Trek movie. :P

[MurikanDemocrat]

20. Why are you directing this at me? I'm not a Nader supporter.

:wtf:

[Evil_Dewers]

27. Why are you directing this at me? I'm not a Nader supporter

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you--I was referring to the idiots with multiple accounts who are voting for that elf/Vulcan DK above.

At least DU is a liberal site, albeit a fringe liberal site in which some consider JFKerry to be a DINO. That is whack.

FreeRepublic used to be a conservative site (well, they were united in their hatred of Clinton--even though any good liberal like me will tell you that William Jefferson Clinton was not a real liberal), but freeperville is such a joke now that the conservatives there who point out Bush isn't really a conservative because of his nation building in Iraq and his $550 billion deficit and his amnesty program for illegal aliens have been banned forever.

I was hoping this site could become a ABB (united against Bush site), but too many of the disgruntled Deaniacs and DK supporters would rather be right in principle and have * in the White House for four more years (or more, since martial law will displace the constitution after the next terrorist attack on US soil). DK has half the delegates of Rev. Jogging Suit, but that won't stop the Dee Kayers from creating silly polls here and DUing (freeping--skewing) them.

Zell Miller is a DINO. Shit, he's more conservative than most actual Rethuglickers. Holy Joe was the closest thing to a DINO that the DEMS had running for prez. John Kerry is no DINO.

[Ficus]

32. evidence

of skewing by DK supporters? I mean besides you don't believe that there are that many people on DU who'd like the only real alternative to the two frontrunner's policies?

[Evil_Dewers]

34. evidence of skewing

That fact that DK supporters are over-represented by a factor of 100000 here with regards to their actual presence in the real world--there are many times more DK supporters here than Rev. Al supporters, however, in the real world, Rev. Al has twice (16) as many delegates than DK (8).

How many hundreds of delegates does Kerry already have, and how many more hundreds will he pick up tomorrow?

[Ficus]

36. what happened to the DEAN and CLARK

folks who used to be neck and neck for #1? Did they all go to Kerry or Edwards? Perhaps some went to DK because they still felt they wanted a candidate who was against USAPATRIOT and against the IWR - and not AL because the Reverend Al is a joke.

[Evil_Dewers]

37. what happened to the DEAN and CLARK folks

Well, according to the latest polls, they went to the Kerry/Edwards camps.

Neither Dean nor Clark could vote yeah or nay on the Patriot Act nor the IRW, since Dean is an ex-governor (not in Congress) and Clark in an ex-general (was never in Congress).

I am glad DK voted against the Patriot Act and against the IRW. I admire him, just as I admire Senator Wellstone.

However, DK is perhaps much more of a joke as Rev. Al, especially considering the fact that Rev. Al has twice as many delegates as DK.

Sorry, this country is full of idiots who just aren't ready for a prez who is a vegan bachelor and who looks like a Vulcan or the unlikely spawn of an elf/hobbit coupling. Politics is a cruel business. But it had to be said.

[indigo32]

39. This Dean Folk

is going to Kucinich tomorrow... and will be ABB in Nov (well actually before cuz I'll work for the nominee).

[bobthedrummer]

42. Yep.

:hi:

[bobthedrummer]

5. Looks like a lot of folks have no problem with voting their real choice

here. Look at Dennis Kucinich go! :bounce:
Not a single vote for Ralph either.
That's a good sign.

[bobthedrummer]

6. Kucinich kick.

:dem:

[rock]

7. Dennis is not doing too shabby

on edut: spelling

[bobthedrummer]

8. 53 votes and one DUer voted for Nader

is anyone terribly upset now? I think most people will be ABB in November-and there won't be any big Nader factor.

[AndyTiedye]

14. The Nader Factor Will Be Programmed into the Diebold Machinez

int kerry=-100000;
int bush=100000;
int nader=0;
int whogetsit=0;

for (i=1; i<total_votes; i++) {

if (vote == bush) {
bush++;
break;
}
if (vote == nader) {
//protect against real surprises
if (nader > bush)
bush++;
else
nader++;
break;
}
if (vote == kerry) {
if (whogetsit++ >= 5)
whogetsit = 0;

switch (whogetsit) {
case 0:
bush++;
break;
case 1:
nader++;
break;
default:
kerry++;
}
}
}

[AndyTiedye]

15. damn bboard strips out all the formatting

[bobthedrummer]

9. I've got real things to do in the real world now, please keep this kicked.

[nolabels]

17. Boom Boom Boom, how is that foot pedal workin bobthedrummer

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

18. I've got "the good foot"!

:hi:
In fact, I just played for 45 minutes straight.

[bobthedrummer]

16. Wes Clark and Howard Dean supporters are very important

I would urge them to consider voting for Dennis Kucinich tomorrow.
:hi:

[Auntie Bush]

28. I'd rather show my support for Clark by voting or writing in his

name. Won't make any difference in the outcome.

[bobthedrummer]

29. He could be our next V.P.

[Evil_Dewers]

33. He could be our next V.P.

DK won't even finish in the top two in his home state of Ohio.

[bobthedrummer]

43. Consider Dennis Kucinich tomorrow

http://www.kucinich.us/

:hi:

[Piperay]

49. I decided that I am voting Kucinich

tomorrow, my candidate was Clark but he dropped out. I was still going to vote Clark but then decided to vote for someone who is actually still in the running. I know that Kerry will get the nomination and I will wholeheartedly support him but I'm giving my primary vote to Kucinich. :-)

[bobthedrummer]

19. It's been Kucinich and Kerry exchanging first-place @100 votes,

Edwards running third throughout.

And what does everyone make of the 2 votes for that bogeyman, Ralph?
Sheesh.

[NightNurse]

21. The DU Poll? The P.U. POLL? ROFL MAO

Laughable, Pathetic, the only aspects it reflects is the DU's deep seated resentments and prejudices.:argh:

[bobthedrummer]

22. Formidable indeed in November.

ABB.

[messiah]

23. Here in Ohio I'm voting for Kucinich

[bobthedrummer]

24. Both my wife and I voted for him in Wisconsin.

He's a local guy for you, just like we have Russ Feingold here. Wow.
:hi:

[jansu]

25. Very pleased with Dean and Kucinich here!

Voting for either of them, keeps our messages in the Convention and some of the power! May help to make it a brokered convention, which gives power to us!

I worry about a vote for Clark, because he has endorsed Kerry. Does this mean that on the first ballot all those deglegates that he has, goes to Kerry? That could put Kerry over the top. Anyone know? I want it to go to at least a second ballot, where it is freefall!

[bobthedrummer]

26. Nader is the only "unelectable" here

[Evil_Dewers]

30. Why did you list Nader since he's not a Democrat? n/t

[bobthedrummer]

31. Kucinich and Kerry both have 10% over Edwards here

and look at the Wes Clark/Howard Dean bloc.

I still can't get over how the DU hysteria about Ralph Nader is just a spectre, an illusion. LOL!

ABB.

[mgarretson]

35. Maybe I'm jaded, but

I don't think any association of learned people can be representative of the general population... That's why this place can be a nice retreat...

I'm a Clarkie but I already voted for him here in OK so I threw my "poll" vote behind Kerry.

-Mike

[nolabels]

38. That's your choice, it has nothing to do with being jaded

I supported and sent Dean bucks, am very willing and fully supportive to who ever comes out (everybody jump on Kerry band wagon), and left my heart and vote with Dennis. This not a crime unless they them steal your vote in the process and install a *

[mgarretson]

40. Jaded...

nolabels, I'm not jaded about Clark as a candidate... I meant jaded to be in reference to the intelligence of the general population.

I'm looking at Dean more favorably in hindsight, btw. It'll be interesting to see what you guys do with your momentum.

-Mike

[nolabels]

46. "momentum" what is that? Choped off, above knees and kept on going

The smarts part did worry me when I was younger, as far as the general population goes, I think it will work out. People don't always require smarts, and sometimes I have even seen it to be a handicap, or a challenge depending on who it concerns. And besides one should never ever misunderestimate others :hurts:

[bobthedrummer]

41. Kucinich kick

:dem:

[Hippo_Tron]

44. Kerry's got enough votes, I'll give one to good old Al

I don't care if he uses his campaign money to stay in fancy hotels, that guy really helps us out against Bush.

[bobthedrummer]

45. Do any of the trio of Nader voters wish to come forward?

:shrug:

[bobthedrummer]

47. Kucinich kick.

:dem:

[bobthedrummer]

48. I'd just like to thank all the DUers and visitors voting for Dennis

Kucinich tomorrow.
:hi:

[goodhue]

52. yes

looking forward to completing my ballot tomorrow

[InhaleToTheChief]

50. Proud to be voting Kucinich...

...in CA tomorrow.

[bobthedrummer]

53. Alright!

:hi:

[flaminbats]

51. If Ralph Nader was on the primary ballot it would help us in two ways...

first it would remove Nader as a third-party candidate in the fall, and second this would bring some competition into our primaries.

[bobthedrummer]

54. Well there's almost 200 votes and I don't see the evil Ralph Nader

being anything more than a will'o'the wisp, not a player nor a factor despite all the flame threads here warning of gravest fears, blah, blah, blah...

[bobthedrummer]

55. Shoot, according to this poll Dennis Kucinich should do well tomorrow.

That would be nice!

[Barad Simith]

56. kick

[bobthedrummer]

57. Reality check kick.

It's Super-Tuesday.