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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:37 PM
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Voting for the Bonesman!!! Kerry!!!
Then you will have voted to support a secret criminal organization whose members have destabilized democracies, assassinated democratically elected leaders and some of whose members financed Hitler, the Holocaust, and the weap0ons which killed our soldiers in WWII.

Say what you want: if you vote for Kerry tomorrow to help make him the nominee, you are voting AGAINST humanity and FOR the elites.

In the General Election you will be asked to select WHICH Skull and Bonesman you want in November to run this country. You will be asked to pick the lesser of two serious evils.

But TOMORROW you have a choice.

You can vote for the Bonesman or you can vote for somebody else.

Karmically I think voting for the Bonesman is your worst option.

I will say this about Edwards: as a southerner with a conservative constituency I can understand his war vote.

Kerry voted FOR this war because he thought it would win him the presidency when his constituency did not demand it.

Anyway--

I am voting Kucinich and urge others to. Unless they are in a state where they can help defeat Kerry by voting Edwards.


In any case - I'd say we have been pretty well f*cked in this election and the last two.

But at least I got to meet Dennis Kucinich and shake his hand and thank him.

And tomorrow I get to VOTE for him!

THAT is exciting.


YOU vote for Kerry. Not me. Not tomorrow.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:39 PM
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1. tee-hee
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:40 PM
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2. Lol!
I know.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:53 AM
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86. I love your
commentaries! They are great!:)
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:40 PM
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3. Skulls and bones! Skulls and bones!
Man, this is getting tiresome. :eyes:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:40 PM
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4. But a little funny...
just a little.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:21 AM
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71. Kibbles and Bits! Kibbles and Bits!
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 07:22 AM by DemBones DemBones
(Secret Elite Dog Society, pedigrees required.) :evilgrin:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:32 PM
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105. LOL!
Good one.
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:41 PM
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123. Yeah
We understand that is going to be a S&B Election, so stop crying and bow down to your masters, slaves.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
132. LOL! Doncha mean
"Bulls and Skones! Bulls and Skones!"
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:41 PM
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5. BOO!
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:52 PM
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12. Nice picture of Kerry through Shallow Hal's glasses
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:06 AM
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26. That's me!
I was having a bad hair day.
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:42 PM
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6. I'm voting for Kucinich

But it won't make a bit of difference.

I'm 100% sure that it won't make a lick of difference.

I'm 100% sure that Kerry will be 1000% better a president than Bush even IF he is a member of Bones.

After seeing that Trudeau (Doonesberry) is a Bonesman, I realize that they don't have that tight of control over their membership. If they did, they would have killed Trudeau a LONG time ago.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:53 PM
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14. sigh... the misinfo just keeps going round.
Trudeau was never S&B. He was in Scroll & Key, which is just an honors society.

In fact, there were a few Doonesburies about Papa Bush's membership in S&B waaaay back in the 1980s. Though it was for laughs, Trudeau treated S&B as an at-least mildly sinister, thoroughly snobby and arrogant club -- indicative of all that is worst in the moneyed classes.

Note also that S&B is not a fraternity. It is a secret society for the advancement of its members, by whatever means. The society is apparently kept together by mutual blackmail. The concept is not that hard to understand or uncommon. It is a hardball version of the old boy network, not at all mystical to the outsider whatever the rituals involved - and not the kind of thing we should be wanting members of in power in a democracy! The mentality alone is wrong, the potential for abuse great, the stories too disturbing to ignore.

Given those stories, why is it acceptable for both Bush and Kerry to laugh off their membership with the comment that "it's secret, I can't tell you"? Doesn't that bother you at all?

Even if S&B is some harmless prankster group (it's not), we can't know that.

The citizenry deserve simple and clear explanations, not obfuscations or dismissals of the concerns. So why don't the S&B men simply provide them?
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:00 AM
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20. I agree

We do deserve explanations. However, our choices have been narrowed for us at this point.

Kerry seems to have a pretty good record on progressive causes. The more I see him, the more I'm comfortable with him.

Besides, I think that the Bush crowd have ALREADY crossed the line regarding how one could treat a "Bonesman". It seems that Kerry is either not "made" or he is on the outs.

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:02 AM
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22. Very well put and I THOUGHT the Truseau reference was wrong
scroll and key is certainly NOT Skull and Bones or Book and Snake (another Yale secret spook order)

The biggest problem with Skull is that it has been used by the shadow government for almost 100 years to recruit its financial and politicxal and war profiteers as well as our spooks who destabilize democracies for profit on wall street.

Kerry is one of them, unfortunately.

Mark my words, though friends.

if Kerry wins (and I think he is being set up to lose) we shall see that Kerry's policies will be just a watered down version of Bush's.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #14
79. Your word carries a lot of weight with me,
what with your link to a Repug cnadidate's website.
I've figured out why the Admins don't mind keeping you around: COMIC RELIEF.

I'd put you on ignore, but I'd miss out on the fun with you and SS.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #79
87. That was harsh--sorry. Too late for an edit; I had to leave to get
my son off to school.

I apologize--publicly, too.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #79
96. *sigh.*
Maybe the admins keep me around because they actually followed the link and figured out what the John Buchanan (not Pat) candidacy is all about?

Maybe they actually have a sense of humor?
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:43 PM
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7. is this GD04 nostalgia night???
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:44 PM
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8. This is like fucking "Groundhog Day"!
and even funnier
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. All we need is , "I Got You Babe" playing on a cheap alarm clock radio.
Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:51 PM
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11. Except this is Germany February 1933
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:09 AM
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29. Oh, that's fucking rich
The two aren't even close. That equation not only shows a complete misunderstanding of history, it is also completely asinine. That wouldn't even equate if you were right about Kerry and Bush. Completely different.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:28 AM
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37. I think not
Reichstag Fire = 9-11

Suspension of the Constitution. Invasion of neighboring and other countries.

The rise of fascism. Corporate fascism.

Wait.

You will see.

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:36 AM
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44. So, Kerry is Hitler?
Or Bush is Hitler? Or Hitler is Hitler?

You really think voting for Kucinich is going to keep you from corporate fascism? They run 2/3 of the government. And barring a Democratic comeback this year, you'd have Kucinich heading a government completely hostile to him and committed to your corporate fascist agenda.

If there is corporate fascism on the way, voting for Kucinich isn't going to stop it.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:46 AM
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46. No, its Paraguay circa 1978
Bush and Kerry are both the cloned offspring of Adolf Hitler (created by Brazilian Josef Mengele - played by Gregory Peck - of course), and Seventhson is Laurence Olivier as the fearless Nazi hunter unafraid of risking his own life to stop Mengele's diabolical plot to take over the world. The whole story is the realization of a more than slightly ludicrous paperback novel by Ira Levin.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:04 AM
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56. MOCK , will you???
You think you KNOW- but I will teach you some secrets!!!
Just so you know, the S& B DOES have an underground laboratory in Argentina.

HAS Kerry ever been to South America??? I did I a very reliable google and the results chilled my very soul:

http://www.counterpunch.org/donnelly02092004.html

If Kerry/Bush does not come clean on this development, then we should all be concerned...

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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #56
57. Uh oh - Remember that Teresa Heinz
is of Portuguese descent, and Portuguese is her first language.

Where do they speak Portuguese?

Brazil.

Which country is featured prominently in the novel and movie, The Boys from Brazil?

Brazil.

Could the case be made any clearer?

John Kerry is Adolf Hitler, cloned.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:53 AM
Response to Reply #44
70. No, Kerry's not Hitler.
He does, however, belong to Skull & Bones. Seventhson, who are some of the members of Skull & Bones?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #70
72. Most of the Bushes and Walkers
for starters. There also Cheneys and Bundys and the Harrimans who fionanced Hitler wityh the Bushes and walkers in the 1930's AND during WWII and the Holocaust
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #72
83. Well well, well -
it's puzzling why so many Kerry supporters shrug their shoulders and just ignore this.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:29 AM
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84. Because we have no free will
How can one oppose the Skull and Bones juggernaut when our resistance has been sapped by fluoridation and Saturday Morning Cartoons?
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #83
115. maybe because we don't care?
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #11
54. The sky is falling the sky is falling
can someone lend me some tinfoil?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:50 PM
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10. Just THINK about it folks: Enabling a Bonesman
It would be one thing to vote for him against Bush. But quite another to support ANY Bonesman as the nominee.


Trudeau would not be where he is without his Bones connections, I'd wager. (No way of proving me wrong or right -- but he is tame by many standards = say compared to Ted Rall)

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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:53 PM
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13. I refuse to say you're crazy.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:00 AM
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19. Some things are better left unsaid. LOL
A round of Bull and scones for everyone.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:54 PM
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:46 AM
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47. Bonesmen f*cked over my country andf hurt all of us
I have a problem with that.

I guess you don't.

But this hurts MY chilcren. MY country. My planet. These bastards are dangerous losers with power - so they get desperate and mean.

Look at haiti: that was a typical Bonesman operation: secret. murky. efficient killing. dethroning of a democracy.

Watch and learn
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #47
51. I'm going with the panty raid thing
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. I think it happened earlier
Maybe a dodge-ball game gone wrong?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:54 PM
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16. "But at least I'm sure of all the things we got..."
Sonny Bono was a bonesman, too.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:59 PM
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18. I thought about it.
Still does not mean shit.

Bush should be doing FAR better at keeping ex-members of his administration silent with the far-reaching powers of THE BONERS!

I think someone has seen "The Brotherhood of the Bell" one too many times.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:58 PM
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17. at least read a real journalist's report on S+B
http://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc808.html

Skull & Bones (Part I)

"Skull & Bones isn’t your typical fraternity. Within the Tomb there is a very strong death motif and a very strong war motif."

Josh Shore (GNN): Tell us about your book.
Alexandra Robbins: "Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League and the Hidden Paths of Power" is an expose and analysis of Skull & Bones, probably the world’s most infamous secret society.

Tell us what drew you to this story? How did you come to write about this?
Skull & Bones presents a challenge for any reporter looking for a difficult story. It was almost like a dare. This is a society that has been secret for almost 200 years now. It’s constantly reminding its members to stay quiet, so of course this is something that any journalist wants to penetrate.

So what is the prevailing wisdom around Skull and Bones? What is some of the mythology?
People generally believe that Skull & Bones operates a secret world government, that it controls foreign policy, that it’s a wealthy landowner that guarantees its members power and financial security for life. They believe that members are associated with the Nazis, that they controlled the atomic bomb, and that they lead the nation into war every chance they get.

And so from your research did you find confirmation to these theories?
I was actually surprised because there was a lot more basis to these theories than I had expected. For example, members of the Skull & Bones did indeed oversee the deployment of the atomic bomb. They did choreograph the Bay of Pigs invasion. They did fund Hitler when they could. But it wasn’t the organization pulling the strings. It was the individual members. There are cliques within Skull & Bones that tend to gather together and elevate each other to power and then exert their control and influence… It’s not that Skull & Bones as an entity is specifically and directly pulling the strings. It’s that individuals within the secret society are pushing each other to positions of authority and working their influence from there.

MUCH MORE HERE
http://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc808.html
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
23. What an authorative web site...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:13 AM by Nicholas_J
World class expose. Winner of the Art Bell Prize for Excellence in Investigative Journalism!

I think someone has stayed up all night listening to Coast to Coast one time too many.

For an even greater expose:

Skull and Bones
"Skull and Bones is basically about power. They exist only to put members of Skull and Bones into positions of power and then encourage those members in positions of authority to hire other members," said Alexandra Robbins who appeared on the Wednesday night show. Robbins, the author of "Secrets of the Tomb," an investigation into the Skull and Bones secret society, outlined how a small but loyal group who joined the club at Yale, have gone on to wield an inordinate amount of power in a variety of fields. In fact, she pointed out that "Bonesman" Pres. George W. Bush has selected numerous club members to high level positions in his administration.

Robbins described the Skull and Bones initiation ritual which takes place in the Tomb, a mysterious gothic building on the Yale campus. The ritual includes the inductees wearing costumes (such as that of a Pope and a Devil) and resting one foot on a skull while drinking a blood-like liquid. There are many, many skulls throughout the Tomb Robbins said, allegedly even the skull of Geronimo, the famed Indian. While Robbins hadn't had access to the Tomb, a caller to the program recounted seeing "a statue of a grim reaper with dead pigeons around the base and what looked like blood," which made it appear as if a demonic ritual had been conducted there.

Since the publication of her book, Robbins said she had been harangued by a member of the Skull and Bones society who also worked in publishing and intimated that her writing career would be destroyed. Later, a caller to the program, claiming to be a Skull and Bones member, confronted Robbins. He accused her of propagating inaccuracies about the society and said that no member of Skull and Bones would have ever shared information with her. Robbins said she interviewed dozens of cooperative Bonesmen for her book.


http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/01/22.html

Note the authorative photo of the alien space-craft controlled by the bonesmen at the top of the page.

Lets look at some other equally fascinating Coast to Coast expose's:

On the 12-07-00 COAST TO COAST AM show (click on adjacent image for link and wind forward to 18:30), Richard Hoagland, chief investigator of ENTERPRISE MISSION said that, during the MSSS December 4, 2000 press conference, one of the reporters said to Malin that, few months ago, he has made the announcement that there is some occasionally running water on Mars and now they say that there is some sediment indicating rock also.

He finished with asking him:



When is your next big announcement going to be?



According to Hoagland, Malin, caught off guard by surprise, looked at the camera and said:



Well, it wont be for at least a little beyond than six months.



Little more than six months from December makes July of 2001.

Hoagland is of the opinion that this means that, on 07-20-2001, the announcement of the still existing life on Mars shall be made, making the manned mission to Mars an urgent need and that this was in the background of the recent Gore-Bush fight over the US presidency.

According to him, it seems that Gore-Clinton clan intended to make this operation possible, while Bush, judging by his family history, could be a status-quo son, as his father was.

http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/space/mars/mars3.htm
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. when you have no answer, when you cannot formulate an argument...

make snide remarks about the source (unfounded or not).

Cheap.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. When the source is as authoratiaive as that one
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:21 AM by Nicholas_J
And the author has been covered along with:

Hot Stories for Mon., Mar. 1, 2004
NASA to Announce 'Significant Findings'
A press conference on Tuesday will present data about water on Mars based on evidence from the Opportunity Mars rover. --Space.com

Abrupt Climate Change
Professor of Geochemistry reacts to Pentagon report. --Earthfiles.com

Traces of aliens on the Earth
Ancient remains seems to defy scientific explanation. --Pravda

The Girl Who Feels No Pain
Child suffers from extremely rare

Devout flock to weeping Virgin icon
Building manager discovers portrait of Mary that sheds drops of oil. --Montreal Gazette

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Lets say I have my doubts...

Find a legitimate source written by someone who is not wearing a tin-foil hat, and you may get my attention
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #31
41. so cheap...
How shameful to continue in this vein!

What difference does it make if Art Bell's site (or whatever coast-to-coast is) includes links to Alexandra Robbins?

Anyone can link to anyone else. There is practically no control over this on the Web.

Besides which, if a true story was in the Weekly World News itself, it would be no less true. The standards of accuracy and logical consistency would still apply to the story, not the publication.

Perhaps you are too lazy to even bother to read it?

Your comments are similar to the pose of the conservative dismissing a story because it appears on DU.

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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #41
49. There is a good reason
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:51 AM by Nicholas_J
Why Robbins expose didnt make it to the New York time or Newsweek...

Or in fact any other relatively authoratative media outlet.


The fact that her information is sheer speculation, of the wing nut variety. and completely insubtantiated:

This authors work is on the same level as the "Clinton Chronicles"

Basically unproven, unprovable, sensationalistic, tripe.

Given the picure of the author, I would find rumors that she was an ex intern/journalist, who Kerry has been accused of lusting after more believable.

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #49
62. Do you consider Democracy Now authoratative?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #41
78. Coming from someone who has a link to a REPUBLICAN
candidate for Prez?

:wtf:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #78
95. why don't you research JOHN Buchanan (not Pat)
you might learn a bit of the strategy of the Chinese game of "go."
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #23
63. This is nothing.
I'm pre-ordering Seventhson's book that ties S&B, the Tri-lateral Commission, the Illuminati, Sufi mysticism, and Heinz Kosher Dill pickles into one coherent conspiracy theory.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. We read it all long ago. As a couple of DUers were fond of saying,
POOP
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:18 AM
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75. Apparently you are unfamiliar with most fraternities; Animal House
was not that far off the mark in terms of silly rituals.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:33 PM
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106. Belushi was Skull & Bones.
Eom.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:02 AM
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21. Did somebody say I got you babe?


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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:05 AM
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25. A lot of spare time without those Meet Ups, huh?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:30 AM
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60. God, you're funny as hell...
;)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:06 AM
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27. "Claustrophobia, there's too much paranoia..."
"There's too many closets I went in before..."

I seriously doubt a bunch of rich, latent-homosexual frat boys are really part of a "secret criminal organization whose members have destabilized democracies, assassinated democratically elected leaders and some of whose members financed Hitler, the Holocaust, and the weap0ons {sic} which killed our soldiers in WWII." If Kerry so evil, why isn't he a Republican? Is it part of the cabal's attempt to dominate the whole political spectrum? Can any politician really be trusted? Are they all in on the master plan of the global elites?

Masturbating in a coffin and coming from a wealthy background does not equal cabal. The Bonesmen are Bonesmen because they were wealthy and went to Yale and got into that stupid little club; They run the government because they're part of the wealthy elite. But that does not mean they're hellbent on global domination or subverting democracy.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:10 AM
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30. "I don’t think members of Skull & Bones should be running the country"

Further excerpt from Guerilla News interview with author (and Yalie) Alexandra Robbins



Skull & Bones is sort of… if the Ivy League is a distillation of that and alumni networks from Yale or Harvard or Penn or Brown are distillations of that distillation, then Skull & Bones at Yale is almost like the elite of the elite. This is the very top level of how those networks work. The problem is that Skull & Bones is an overly conservative regressive organization that really belongs to an Ivy League that doesn’t exist anymore. And the fact that these very traditional members do reach such high levels of power in so many aspects of America today is a little disturbing because only 15 members are initiated each year. So for such a tiny club to have such influence on America when the members of this club don’t reflect the rest of the country, is a bit distressing.

....

Unfortunately, I don’t think that the traditions are going to continue to erode. I think the fact that Skull & Bones has another president in power is just another mode of encouragement that will lead it to continue its traditions and lead it to continue to do what it has always done. And I think the current political scene is probably evidence of that. In 2000, let’s look at the four men who were on the ballot. You had George W. Bush, a member of Skull & Bones. You had Al Gore, a graduate of Harvard. You had Dick Cheney who is distantly related to a family of Skull & Bonesmen. And you had Joseph Lieberman who was a member of another secret society at Yale. In 2004, it could very well be the first Bones vs. Bones ballot, with George W. Bush against Senator John Kerry, a 1966 graduate of Skull & Bones. It seems that we see the same cycles of people over and over again and, as much as we say this is 2002, this is America, this is a democracy, we are still seeing the candidates coming from the same tiny political pool.

.....

Frankly I don’t think members of Skull & Bones should be running the country. I don’t feel comfortable with a group that’s historically been misogynistic, has had anti-Semitic members, has been prejudiced in the past, and has been linked with Hitler and the atomic bomb. I don’t think these people should have such an influence on our country, and yet we see them in journalism, in business, running the CIA, running the Supreme Court and running the U.S. government. I think the only way to tear this society down is to penetrate its secrets and to spread awareness about it so that people know what’s going on and when they see politicians capitalizing on Skull & Bones, constituents can call them on it.

...

I think people need to pay more attention to organizations like Skull & Bones so that whenever, for example, George W. Bush appoints another cabinet member, he’ll be scrutinized – he won’t easily be able to just elevate somebody from Skull & Bones because people will be watching and people will be able to call him on it and the press will be able to confront him on his secret society leadership. A lot of people have a problem with the fact that George W. Bush was a member of a secret society. I have gotten a lot of emails from people essentially saying that if a society is secret it can’t be hiding something good
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:20 AM
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33. The funniest part about the much talked of
never proven activites of Skull nad Bones is that they were able to keep all of their evil behavior as students so secret that everything must be speculated upon, yet can't even manage to keep people like Paul O'Neill and Rand Berrs quiet.

Give me a break!
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WitchWay Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:14 PM
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114. Don't use the "never proven"...
Dont' use the "never proven" argument. This is the same argument that is made, for instance, by polluters who destroy the environment. It is "never proven" that pollution "harms" the environment or land usage is destroying the habitat of an endangered species (so they get to keep on polluting and destroying the environment until scientists spend a great deal of time and effort to go out and get "facts", but even those "facts" will get dismissed as being "unsound" if it suits the corporate interests).

But what about common sense? Look at the history of the business interests of those involved in this organization. Evil? Well, I for one find rampant accumlation of wealth and power, corporatism and imperialism evil.

Kerry can denounce and reveal the activities of skull and bones. If it is so benign and if he truly believe in democracy and not elitism, I would encourage him to do so. NO one is stopping him from that. Instead, he refuses to comment. He, in effect, invites speculation as to his dealings -- JUST LIKE CHENEY in his secret energy meetings. A person in government should not have "secret allegiances".
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:06 PM
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116. You are not REALLY comparing something Kerry did
when he was 21 with what Cheney did as Vice President as far as disclosing ? Not really ! All Kerry is responsible for are his own actions, and it is possible that all he did was the idiotic things that college kids do, and if so he does not owe you or anyone else an explanation. You can speculate all you want but I hope he tells you all to go to hell about this garbage.
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WitchWay Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:54 AM
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129. I am REALLY comparing this with Cheney
I am comparing what Kerry did to what Cheney did. Yes. When you are 21, you are an "adult" and what you do does say something about you, especially if you are involved in politics. So, yes it is idiotic of him but since he continued his involvement, he does owe an explanation. He should come clean about his involvement with this organization.

I would be able to overlook it if he had renounced it, but he has been involved with it way into adulthood. When Kerry was in the senate he tried to recruit an intern at the New Republic for Skull and Bones (Jacob Weisberg who is now editor of Slate turned this down). So, it's not like he "quit" after college. By the way, there are a bunch of Cheneys in skull and bones, too.

An adult DOES owe an explanation as to why he thinks an exclusive, secret society is okay. It is about power issues, and the fact that Kerry is involved in this kind of organization means that he may not understand and be sensitive to his own privelege and power issues.

I don't care if Kerry told me to go to hell because I am not a Christian so I do not believe in hell.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:18 AM
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32. If this is a "secret", then why do YOU know about it???
Unless you are IN ON IT, hmmmm?

Sooo-how DO you know so MUCH about these secret criminal organizations...Personal friends of yours perhaps?

How do we know you are not doing thier BIDDING right now-using some sort of double-reverse logic tricks???

I'm keeping my eye on you...
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:24 AM
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34. lol
lalalalalalalalalalalalala

I'm not listening


Do NOT tell me about skull and bones. Kerry is too loveable to betray us all with this secret order business with the Bushes.


SSSSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:31 AM
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42. You have already betrayed THIS secret- but I have other secrets...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:44 AM by Dr Fate
...that dwell within the hearts of men...

Secrets that are SO secret, YOU do not even know them...yet...

I did a google on "Area 51" AND Skull & Bones.

What I found chilled my soul to the very core!!!

Tread on gentle reader, if you dare- but be WARNED that I am about to unveil an evil that will shake this mortal coil to its FOUNDATIONS!!!

http://www.unexplained.info/directory/conspiracies/the_order_of_skull_and_bones/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=3662&page=4

http://www.freeworldalliance.com/rallyreport.htm

Yes, Seventhson, we have many, many secrets to uncover together...



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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:26 AM
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35. I've suspected as much since the first time
this Bird Seed was started against Kerry before he even announced. Supposedly there is a book coming and then ALL will be revealed. LOL
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:27 AM
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36. Ok, so...
don't vote for Kerry. 'Tis your right.

However, you should be aware that the real problem is the Illuminati candidate. the Illuminati are so secret that we don't even know which candidate that is. Even the Masons and Rosicrucians are befuddled.

What we do know, however, is that the Illuminati are slick. Their candidate will never stick out or be considered a frontrunner. Their candidate will sit quietly in the background and let everyone else be examined relentlessly until the time is ready to strike. Perhaps it will seek the vice-presidency and bide its time.

Beware the Illuminati-- the real power behind the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderbergers.

And Bohemian Grove.



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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:29 AM
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40. 6 of one, half dozen of the other
watch and learn. They are all the same dudes.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:07 PM
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100. YOU BOUGHT THAT?
You're right, it's becoming oh so clear to me now...

:eyes:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:27 AM
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59. I once worked with a wingnut who claimed you can tell the Illuminati
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 01:28 AM by LibertyChick
because they have very large front doors.

Serious.


EDIT:Typo from laughing so hard.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:07 AM
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65. Large front doors?
Why would they need large front doors?

Are they really, really fat?

I heard they don't need doors anyway. They live on mountaintops, far way from anyone. Apparently they have everything they need and don't bother to mingle with us lesser beings much.

They just sit on their mountaintops meditating and controlling world events.

They eat Skull & Bones for lunch.

(Sorbonne & London School of Economics for them. Let the Yalies have the US-- Illuminati have the world.)



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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:28 AM
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38. I don't know how much influence or power these people have.
What little I have read doesn't sound very good either. I do remember reading that Kerry suggested James Baker as an envoy he could trust. That may have nothing to do with S & B, but it sure as hell sounds like Kerry is full of shit. To me all these elites are real buddies behind closed doors. I'm voting for Kucinich tomorrow, a real Democrat.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:28 AM
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39. I'm voting for the Grassy and Knoll candidate: Dennis Kucinich
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:29 AM by John_H
Take a another look at the picture of the people running toward the fence. Those are not people, they are Texas jobs running toward Mexico--THIRTY YEARS BEFORE NAFTA!!!!!!!

Are you telling me that that guy yelling, "Quick Jobs, run to Mexico!" on the Dallas Police open-microphone tape was not Dennis Kucinich? Of course it was. He knew that forty years later he would need an issue to run on. HE, as a young adult, sent those jobs to Mexico. He did it. Him. Kucinich.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:35 AM
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43. Seventh......if I could vote tomorrow it wouldn't be Edwards! he'd be my
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 12:39 AM by KoKo01
last vote. But I admire your "pump up," here. Living in NC with lots of experience with Edwards believe me,you think S&B is bad? You have NOOOOOO Idea about Edwards.


Although I don't have problem with Edwards VP so much. He couldn't do much harm there....

But, I would vote Dean/Kucinich....to get delegates.....for convention, if I could vote. Here in Edward's state of NC the Repugs trashed our voting to April Caucuses and not real vote until July was the latest...hmmm.

:-)'s to you
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:42 AM
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45. What I don't get is if there is this master plan and everything has
already been laid out, why are you bothering to vote?

"Born of Woman the seventh son
And he in turn of a seventh son
He has the power to heal
He has the gift of seventh sight
He is the chosen one."


And if you are the chosen one with the gift of seventh sight, why are you wasting your time here with us mere mortals?
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:48 AM
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48. There is no such thing as free will!
There's no point in voting. We should all stay home and hide under our beds. Just read Luther's Bondage of the Will.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:52 AM
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50. Even Jesus hung out with the sinners and thieves
DU is influential. If Kerry wins HE will become the enemy of the democratic left.

Like with Johnson and Carter and Clinton, dems are capable of evil so we have to watch them like hawks.

If Kerry loses (which I believe may be the scenario although shrub is so lazy I expect he wants a vacation from running "Daddy's world") then we need to understand WHY )it is in the skull playbook and master plan)

NOTHING is beyond the possibilities with the power of love and the love of freedom.

I am voting for Dennis Kucinich because I have faith and hope, despite the evil and wanton love of money in the world.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:59 AM
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52. For thirty years, Kerry has led the Democratic Left
He has been a stalwart liberal, in the face of overwhelming opposition. On many issues, he has been the lone voice of progressivism.

And you think he'd betray his entire life's work because of his college fraternity?

Seventhson, you are beyond reason.

Like with Johnson and Carter and Clinton, dems are capable of evil so we have to watch them like hawks.

Pat Robertson, is that you?
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:41 AM
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61. My apologies, I thought from the gist of this and many other
posts that you had an insight into the master plan. I had no idea that they were all wild speculation and random musings. how many copies do you think there are of the skull playbook? Are they written down, or on the implanted brain chips that the illuminati have perfected?

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #61
77. I Recommend "Der Fuehrer" by Konrad Heiden
for starters.

If you haven't read that then you have very little clue.

John Loftus' "Secret War Against the Jews" and Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope" fill in some blanks.

"The Power Elite' by C. Wright Mill is political science and sopciology 101 (if you haven't been to college or slept through these.

I would also recommend the interview with Alexandra Robbins linked here:



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #50
101. What did Carter do that was evil?
Nearly broker a peace in the Middle East?

What, what?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:30 PM
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121. Carter was a Rockefeller Flunky
He was selected by David Rockefeller and Brzezinsky to be on the Trilateral Commisssion (corporafascist org. run by David Rockefeller when CFR got to notrious for its corporate corruption). They put him in power. Then they screwed him so Bush could get in.
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:09 PM
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127. I believe you meant reagan?
or was bush's campaign in 1980 a feint?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 08:28 PM
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131. Rockefeller's crony Bush was supposed to win - not Reagan
Reagan was an accident, They tried to ice Reagan so Bush could take over but -failing that - they knocked him so out of it that Bush could trake over anyway. He was presdient for almost 12 years. Didn;t you notice? Kerry didn't when he was investigating crimes of that administration.

Never mind. It is too complicated to explain.

Yes - Carter was another guy like Kerry only with different connections -- his were the nuclear ones, Lockheed Martin, weapons manufacturers, etc., military.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:04 AM
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55. "Karmically, I think voting for the Bonesman is your worst option."
You may be right. I voted for Kerry last Tuesday and on Wednesday night, my nephew backed his car into my garage door. Insurance estimate pending.

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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:22 AM
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58. I voted for Kerry two weeks ago
and my insurance company has still not paid me a claim they've promised me. I think there's something to this. I'm now going to be reincarnated as a weasel.

All those reading this, I implore you: don't vote for Kerry - cosmic imbalances will result!
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SerpentX Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:43 AM
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67. Did you go to the polls, or was it one of those absentee chain ballots?
Hello <your name here>,

This ballot has been around the world 17 times ...
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:49 AM
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82. Neither
I went to my local caucus. And nothing's been the same since! Hell, just this morning I ran out of orange juice. Kerry's fault!
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:03 AM
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88. I got a hug from him on the 13th and voted for him on the 17th.
I guess I better go back to bed because I'm way overdue for a catastrophe. Or maybe his karma has improved because of my actions. You never know. These things can go either way. I see some people have all the bases covered. If he is nominated, if he loses, if he wins, it is all because of S&B.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:25 PM
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93. Two bonesmen Nov. 2. If you're not voting Nader, begin drafting your will.
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 01:29 PM by oasis
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #55
102. Edwards is a trial lawyer, you know...
See, it all comes together.

DOOM, YE DISBELIEVERS, DOOM! RENOUNCE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Then sing the anthem:

They say our love won't pay the rent
Before it's earned, our money's all been spent
I guess that's so, we don't have a pot
But at least I'm sure of all the things we got

Babe
I got you babe I got you babe
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:32 AM
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64. Kerry could put an end to the speculation
...over the whole Skull and Bones thing if he really wanted to.

He could easily get a lot more Native American votes if he very publically stated that the rumor of Skull and Bones possessing the stolen skull of Geronimo was false (being a Bonesman, he should know if it is indeed false), because it is very much an issue with them:

http://www.indiancountry.com/?1064420579
http://www.indiancountry.com/?1065807370
http://www.indiancountry.com/?1071246420

In fact, he could also publically state that taking the oath of office of the President of the United States trumps the oath he took to become a bonesman and denounce his membership to the secret club.

But alas, he seems to agree with Bush that "it is so secret, we can't talk about it" and has decided that it's best to continue to let conspiracy theorists run rampant with the story.

For me, the question is, why all the secrecy if it is indeed just another Frat club?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:24 AM
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66. I might ask you the same question...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 04:35 AM by Dr Fate
"secrecy" you say- yet you seem to know soooo much about them.

Where is the all this knowledge of "secrecy" comming from?- There sure a lot of threads over this "secret"- and I intend to find out how they now know too...

You guys SUCK at keeping this stuff a secret.

I noticed you left out Kerry's Area 51 connections as well. How suspicious.

Just WHAT are you hiding this time?

Until Kerry comes clean about Area 51, we should assume he is "involved" in that as well....

We will never get to the bottom of this until we root the Skull & Bones cronies from this very web-site!!!! AGAIN- HOW DID YOU KNOW THE SECRETS?????????ADMIT IT-YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!!!

I wont rest until I put all these creepy occult oriented VILLIANS BEHIND BARS, where they belong...

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #66
103. SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhHHHHHHHHHHH!
Oh. My. God.

Now they know about Area 51 too...

Ziplock the lips on the cloning of Clinton's (jackbooted thugs arrived, must not continuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeee...)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:00 AM
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68. Here we go again! Seventhson, I challenge you to prove your..
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 06:08 AM by wyldwolf
..allegations with reputable sources .

But I won't hold my breath.

Charges like this, and those that make them, can never step up to the plate when it's time to perform.

Fortunately soon we won't have to put up with tripe like this.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:46 AM
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90. Read the Robbins article. She makes the points better than I can
Kerry's actions seem to me duplicityous, opportunist, and spooky.

His coverup of the Bush role in Iran-Contra and the BCCI scandals is notorious (at least to me - no mention of the Bushes in his conclusions at all)

Iraq, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, he voted all pro-Bush

You dot the I's and cross the t's and the evidence is right as rain to me.

Nothing is more telling than his refusal to discuss it, just as Bush does, because it is "too secret".

That is bullshit for a Prez candidate, especially when he and both Bushes are STILL members as we sit here today on Super Tuesday.

It turns my stomach. And so will voting for him if I have to in November (I won't if he has a big lead in my state, though).


Vote for the Bonesmen. It is your karma and your future.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:50 PM
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94. Post a link to the article and the source...
...the rest of what you wrote is dibble.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:22 PM
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119. i'VE POSTED THIS LIKE 20 TIMES BUT HERE
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:51 AM
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69. Wasn't Clinton A Bonesman....
Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers, the former Miss Arkansas whose name escapes me says yes....


ROTFLMFAO
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:15 AM
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74. You crack yourself up. BUT Clinton was not a Skull and Bonesman
just a (fill in the blank)

Make fun all you want. If he wins we will have to live wuith him.

The counterpunch article linked by Fr. Fate above is truly on point

But who here reads Counterpoint. It is too far left for most here.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:19 AM
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76. Actually Jennifer Flowers Said In The Infamous Penthouse Issue That
Clinton was a better licker than bonesman....


-:)

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:13 AM
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73. Yay, today I get to vote for the Kooch!!! Deaniacs, join us in

voting for the man who'll break up the monopolies, media and otherwise.

According to David Podvin, it was Dean's statement on television in December that he'd break up the media monopolies that changed the media from giving him good coverage to repeating the "unelectable" meme. When I read that, I knew this was the issue that has caused the media to marginalize Dennis Kucinich all along. I then understood why they promoted Dean as "the anti-war candidate" and ignored Kucinich's anti-war stands in the House and at anti-war rallies.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:41 AM
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80. Are the S&Bs our Slytherins?
Sounds like it :evilgrin:
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:42 AM
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81. This thread is still going on?
We've got to stop giving our favorite skulls and bone conspiracy theorist this ego boost. Time to ignore this shit once and for all.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:34 AM
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85. but there is almost as much of a compulsion
for us... to respond with humor and sarcasm...

as it is for the originator to continue to post these threads with the conviction that it changes peoples' minds.

oh... wait... now I get it... there is a conspiracy to keep us all focused on these repeated threads so as to keep us from following the news (LBN) and discussios (GD) through which we get informed and are able to inform others and become involved in being part of a solution.... aha the bones threads are a conspiracy of diversion to make DU less effective... (Bet we could work this into a full blown conspiracy theory....)
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:38 AM
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89. Much simpler explanation here. Trying to get anyone but Kerry today
in the primaries.

After thius week - until the election, I have very little motive to trouble Kerry about this.

AFTER the election - if Kerry were to win (altho I have fears that he will not) - THEN I will have to stay on him to perform for the people and NOT for his elitist bonemen brothers.

So this was a last gasp of rationality seeking on the part of our folks here at DU.

Maybe some will vote other than Kerry today because of this thread and that will be a good thing as I see it.

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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:51 PM
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91. I Like Noodles!
:)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:58 PM
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107. "Last gasp at rationality."
Now that is RICh.

My stomach hurts!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:07 PM
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92. People stop it!
I cant laugh anymore without getting fired. This is too funny.
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WitchWay Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:47 PM
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97. Think about it this way...
There is a disinformation campaign to make Skull and Bones seem insignificant and silly. Questions about powerful connections and associations is not mere tinfoil-hatism. Putting aside the ritualism and secret "mystique" of skull and bones, and you are still left with the "bare bones": a tight network of aristocrats who hold powerful positions in government, media, intelligence (CIA) and corporate America. That sort of elite, esoteric secrecy is simply just not democratic. It's aristocratic. It is not okay for things to be done "behind doors" in this day and age.

Think of it this way: Are you okay with Cheney's secret energy policy meetings that he will not disclose? Or Bush's secret machinations for the Iraq war, manipulating the American public with false intelligence? So, how can Skull and Bones be okay?

Here's a partial list of the membership:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bones.htm
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:53 PM
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98. Think about it this way...
There is a disinformation campaign to make Skull and Bones seem significant and important.

Spare me the "Bible Believers" website! :eyes:
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:30 PM
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104. Bible Believers!?
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 06:31 PM by LibertyChick
Oh no, they are WAAAAAY authoritative!

Did they not also put out that blockbuster "The Clinton Chronicles"?

:eyes:
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WitchWay Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:00 PM
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109. Some more to think about.
Here's another URL, then:
http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boodlemembersalpha.htm

Please research the Skull and Bones in regard to the opium trade in China, (by the way, Kerry's Great Grandfather, John Murray Forbes made his fortune in this business), the CIA, drug wars, oil industries and the military industrial complex. You can ignore the ritualism all you want, but don't ignore business ties.

There is immense Power Consolidation through relationships and allegiances, like a monopoly. This is about power and powerful interests. I don't think that many people realize the kind of money and power that these group of people posess. These are not upper middle class folks in a frat or a country club.

There is disinformation out there. Don't you think that a society that has intimate CIA ties would be very savvy about manipulating the public through propaganda campaigns? Don't be fooled.

Take a look at the power, and the ETHICS of this. Kerry is a grown up, and when he joined this organization, he made a grown up choice. Why should he be exempt from being responsible (talking about) this choice? Does he, for instance, believe that exclusion, elitism and power consolidation are OKAY things? Because, as far as I'm concerned, that's not what I think of when I think of being liberal.

It is CRUCIAL to look into this organization. The Bushes and many Cheneys are in it, Teresa Heinz's first husband was in this organization. Kerry's first wife's brother was in this organization. Kerry (if he is the nominee) will have a running mate from it. Skull and Bones is a 600 member organization in which John Kerry has membership. It's an esecretive, exclusive organization, meaning they EXCLUDE people and keep SECRETS. Why do the do this and Why shouldn't this concern us?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:08 PM
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112. Because it's a silly FRATERNITY?
Please make it stop--PLEEEEASE.

They must be at work in this thread, I simply can't tear myself away.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:54 PM
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117. Nope! "The Conspiracy Theory Research List?"
bwahahahahaha!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:55 PM
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118. Nope! "The Conspiracy Theory Research List?"
bwahahahahaha!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #97
108. Yippee! I'm part of a conspiracy!
SING:

"I guess it's true, we don't have a lot..."

LOVE IT!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:04 PM
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110. Yes, do check out this site, indeed--I'm Christian, btw. Please
give as well; they are in need of a copy machine...

http://www.biblebelievers.org/aneed.htm

Stop it--my stomach really DOES hurt!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:06 PM
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99. Yes....Kerry's Got It! Won't hurt him to vote the protest vote, will help
let him know that there are those of us out here in the Dem Party who want our issues addressed and if he doesn't do it....we will "move on to those who DO or WILL support us in the future."

Good to see you still fighting for your cause, here Seventh. We don't want this to be a "Full Cave" do we? I certainly don't. ;-)'s
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:05 PM
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111. FUNNIEST THREAD EVER! Two thumbs way, way up; my son's
and mine--he's only 7 and has no idea why I'm laughing so hard, but he's laughing hysterically too.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:14 PM
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113. damn it, i started reading this thread at 80 posts, i just finish
and there are 32 more posts to read!

I'm going to add seventhson to my buddy list so I can receive e-mails telling me he started another thread about the skull and bones.

These "sources" are as reputable as the fortune city website someone linked me to proving that no saudis were involved in 9-11.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:24 PM
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120. It's a valid topic and now we have a Skull vs Skull Election
Hope everybody is happy
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:35 PM
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122. I wouldn't do that if I were you
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 09:35 PM by tameszu
I go to Yale and Skull and Bones is right down the street from me. I'm gonna go show them this post get 'em to sacrifice some hamsters and throw a big voodoo curse on you tonight. Then I'm going to get them to assassinate the leaders of whatever country your ancestors came from and stage a coup.

:eyes:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:54 PM
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124. Too late
It's called the USA. They killed JFK and they staged a coup.

PS - human sacrifice and necrophilia is their preferred sacrificial methodology

Hamsters do not work as good as dead Haitians and Iraqis and Americans when you are practicing evil sacrifice for greed and power
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:07 PM
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125. List of Bones members from biblebelievers link above
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 10:50 PM by seventhson
YALE'S SKULL & BONES SOCIETY MEMBERS

(More, including Kerry) at this link:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bones.htm


By Eric Samuelson, J.D.

I am presently researching a biography on David Rockefeller. An overview of the book will soon be sent to a New York City agent for circulation among all the major publishing houses. Among the topics that will be covered is the role of British USA Round Table member Rep. Wayne Hays (Demo-Ohio) in "killing" the Reece Committee investigation of tax-exempt foundations, the disappearance of the research on the Rockefeller-funded Kinsey studies and the "disposal" threats made to Reece Investigator Norman Dodd by a lobbyist for the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

In 1986, Hoover scholar Antony C. Sutton published his "magnum opus" - AMERICA'S SECRET ESTABLISHMENT: AN INTRODUCTION TO THE ORDER OF SKULL AND BONES. In his preface Sutton said he had been given an eight-inch batch of documents which was "nothing less than the membership lists of an American secret society. Glancing through the sheets it was more than obvious -- this was no ordinary group. The names spelled Power with a capital P." Throughout the book Sutton hinted at even deeper revelations he would make in books to come. However, the full list never was published by Sutton. In making inquiries of those who knew Sutton, I was told that he had become exiled in his own country. For months I searched the Web looking for a list of the members of Skull and Bones. At long last, a notebook was given to me which required the use of a magnifying glass to make out the names. So, the following semi-final list is about 97% accurate. It opens the door to the Bones realm at a time that one of their own is now hitting the campaign trail for the Republican presidential nomination.

For about the past ten years I have been studying secret elite groups. The average person has almost no knowledge of them and there are very few sources of information. These secret groups include the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, The Knights of the Garter, The Knights of Malta, The 33rd Degree Masons, the Rhodes Scholars, The Skull and Bones and the Trilateral Commission. What is needed is a historical roster of the membership of each of these groups.

The list that follows is only the first of an upcoming series of historic exposes of these secret societies. If you have any biographical information on any of these individuals, your sharing will be appreciated and reciprocated. Any suggestions or corrections appreciated.


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SURNAME GIVEN NAME S&B YEAR
Abbe Frederick Randolph 1848
Abbott John S.C.
Aberg, Jr. Donlan Vincent 1952
Abrams Peter Mark 1983
Acheson David Campion 1943
Acheson Dean (Disputed) (Scroll and Key Society?)
Ackerman Stephen H. 1957
Acosta John Sidney 1921
Adams Charles Edward 1904
Adams Charles Hemmenway 1866
Adams Frederick Baldwin 1862
Adams Frederick Baldwin 1900
Adams, Jr. Frederick Baldwin 1932
Adams George Webster 1904
Adams Lewis G. 1920
Adams Mason Tyler 1899
Adams Stephen 1959
Afeiju Bernard I. 1967
Ahlbrandt, Jr. Roger S. 1963
Aiken Edwin Edgerton 1881
Aitchison William 1848
Albritton Paul Berem 1978
Aldis Owen Franklin 1874
Aldrich Malcolm Pratt 1922
Alexander Eben 1873
Alexander William DeWitt 1855
Alexander William Felix 1851
Ali Mehdi Raza 1965
Allen Arthur Dwight 1901
Allen Arthur Huntington 1873
Allen Calvin Durand 1913
Allen Charles E. 1958
Allen Daniel 1926
Allen Frederick Winthrop 1900
Allen Henry Elisha 1924
Allen John DeWitt Hamilton 1876
Allen Parker Breese 1919
Allen Walter 1863
Allen William Palmer 1880
Allen, Jr. Archibald J. 1945
Allen, Jr. Clarence Emir 1913
Alling, Jr. Charles Booth 1947
Allison Samuel Perkins 1847
Allison, Jr. Robert Seaman 1930
Ames Allan Wallace 1918
Ames Sullivan Dobb 1899
Amundson John Arnold 1880
Anderson Edwin Alexander 1835
Anderson Thomas Hill 1951
Andrews John Wolcott 1876
Andrews, Jr. Edward W. 1945
Andrews, Jr. John Wallingford 1870
Andrie Paul James 1984
Anthony Benjamin Harris 1886
Appel George Frederick Baer 1924
Ardrey Rushton L. 1925
Arms Charles Jesup 1863
Arnot John Hulett 1885
Arnot Matthias Hollenback 1856
Arras, Jr. Robert E. 1969
Asburn Frank Davis 1925
Asch Victor Henderson 1967
Ashenfelter Alan Thompson 1975
Ashforth Albert Blackhurst 1929
Ashley Thomas William Ludlow 1948
Austen David E. 1931
Austin Roy Leslie 1968
Austin Samuel Monroe 1980
Avery Benjamin F. 1914
Avery Charles Hammond 1875
Aycrigg II William Anderson 1942
Ayeroff Frederick Charles 1974
Babcock Henry Harper 1853
Babst James Anthony 1971
Back Samuel H. 1962
Backus Joseph Willes 1846
Bacon Leonard
Badger Paul Bradford 1911
Badger Walter Irving 1882
Bailey Philip Horton 1897
Baker Richard Wheeler 1913
Baldridge Howard Malcolm 1918
Baldwin George William 1853
Baldwin Henry DeForest 1885
Baldwin Roger Sherman 1847
Baldwin Sherman 1919
Baldwin Simeon Eren 1861
Ball David George 1960
Banks Howard D. 1956
Bannard Henry Clay 1869
Bannard Otto Tremont 1876
Baran Mark R. 1978
Barasch Alan Sidney 1973
Baratte Julius Adolphus 1843
Barge Richard Mason 1974
Baribault Richard P. 1949
Barker George Payson 1856
Barlett John Knowlton 1838
Barlett Philip Golden 1881
Barnes Pearce 1874
Barnes William Deluce 1907
Barnes William Henry Lienow 1855
Barney Danford Newton 1881
Barnum William Milo 1877
Barr, Jr. Richard J. 1936
Barres Herster B.D. 1932
Barry William Taylor Sullivan 1841
Bartholemy Alan Edmund 1942
Bartholomew Dana Treat 1928
Bass James Edward 1982
Basset II Barton Bradley 1949
Bassi Keith Alan 1978
Bates Emmert Warren 1932
Bates Samuel Henshaw 1833
Bayard Thomas Francis 1890
Bayne Hugh Aiken 1892
Bayne Thomas Levingston 1847
Bayne-Jones Stanhope 1910
Beach John Campell 1833
Beach John Sheldon 1839
Beane, Jr. Frank Eastman 1960
Beard Anson McCook 1895
Beard William Mossgrove 1896
Beaumont George Anson Oliver 1834
Becket G. Campbell 1923
Becket Peter Logan 1963
Beckley John Werle 1860
Beebe William 1873
Beers Henry Augustin 1869
Begg William Reynolds 1893
Beirne Christopher James 1840
Belin Gaspard d'Andelot 1939
Bell Richard Dobbs Spaight 1844
Bell William Tompkins 1942
Bellinger Alfred Rammond 1917
Bellis Jon Michael 1974
Bellis Tedric Lawrence 1973
Beman Henry DeWitt 1851
Bench Edward C. 1925
Bender Kenneth Arthur 1975
Benedict Theodore Hudson 1840
Bennetto John 1887
Benninghoff Harry Bryner 1954
Benoit, Jr. Charles Edward 1965
Bent Joseph Appleton 1865
Bentley Edward Manross 1880
Bentley Edward Warren 1850
Benton Joseph Augustine 1842
Berger, Jr. George Bart 1928
Berlin Gasper
Berry Coburn Dewees 1868
Bertron Samuel Reading 1885
Best Geoffry D.C. 1964
Biddle Thomas Bradish 1839
Bigelow Albert 1852
Bigelow Walter Irving 1877
Biglow Lucius Horatio 1908
Biglow, Jr. Lucius Horatio 1948
Bingham Charles Tiffany 1928
Bingham Egert Byron 1863
Bingham Jonathan Brewster 1936
Birgen Robert Richards 1968
Bisaro Larry R. 1974
Bishop Noah 1833
Bissel Arthur Douglas 1867
Bissel Wilson Shannon 1869
Bissell George Thomas 1961
Bissell William Truesdale 1925
Bissell, Jr. Richard M.
Blackman Charles Seymour 1857
Blackman Samuel Curtis 1854
Blaine Walker 1876
Blair Edwin Foster 1924
Blair James Grant 1925
Blair William McCormick 1907
Blake Dexter B. 1937
Blake Edward Foster 1858
Blake Eli Whitney 1857
Blake Henry T. 1848
Blake Henry Taylor 1848
Blake, Jr. Gilman Dorr 1945
Blakely Marvin 1977
Blakeslee Henry Clay 1852
Blanchard Jerred Gurley 1939
Blattner Robert William 1976
Bliss Charles Miller 1852
Bliss Robert 1850
Bliss William Root 1850
Blodgett George Reddington 1884
Blue Linden S. 1958
Boasberg III James Emanuel 1956
Bockrath, Jr. Richard C. 1961
Bockstoce John R. 1966
Bodman William Camp 1959
Boies Charles Alred 1860
Boltwood Edward 1860
Boltwood Edward 1892
Boltwood Thomas Kast 1864
Booth Samuel Albert 1884
Booth Wilbur Franklin 1884
Borden Matthew Chaloner Durfee 1864
Borne David Lyle 1963
Bottum Elisha Slocum 1876
Boulos (Bouliaratis) William M. 1947
Bouscaren Michael Frederic 1969
Bowers Lloyd Wheaton 1879
Bowle, Jr. William Carter 1961
Bowles Henry Thornton 1899
Bowles John Eliot 1935
Bowman Ralph David 1957
Boyd Francis T. 1912
Boyden Henry Paine 1864
Bradford Amory Howe 1934
Bradford Arthur Howe 1905
Bradford Timothy McFall 1967
Bradley Charles Harvey 1921
Brand James 1866
Brandegee Augustus 1849
Brandegee Frank Bosworth 1885
Brandt John Henry 1962
Breed Edward Andrews 1844
Breen J. Gerald 1950
Bremmer Samuel Kimball 1886
Breslau Jonathan 1982
Brewster Benjamin 1882
Brewster Chauncey Bunce 1868
Brewster Walter Rice 1921
Brewster IV James Henry 1962
Brickell James Noaille 1845
Bridgman John Cloyse 1885
Brinsmade Horatio Walsh 1851
Brinton Daniel Garrison 1858
Brisrin John Ball 1846
Bristol Louis Henry 1859
Brodhead Henry 1859
Bronson David Bennet 1947
Bronson James Davis 1926
Brooke Frederick Hiester 1899
Brooke George Clymer 1897
Brooke, Jr. Frederick H. 1937
Brooks Henry Stanford 1885
Brooks James Wilton 1875
Brooks John Edward 1865
Brooks Peter Moody 1983
Brooks Tristam Anthony 1982
Brooks Walter 1877
Brown Alexander 1896
Brown Alexander Lardner 1869
Brown Christopher Walworth 1968
Brown George Clifford 1966
Brown Henry Armitt 1865
Brown Hubert Sanford 1861
Brown Jamot 1899
Brown John Mason 1856
Brown Joseph Venen 1842
Brown Robert Nelson 1979
Brown Samuel Taylor Glover 1944
Brown Walter Henderson 1945
Brown William Scott 1970
Brubaker James Robert 1977
Brubaker John Kim 1976
Bruce Donald 1906
Bryan James Taylor 1971
Bryan, Jr. L. Thomas 1955
Buchanan Thomas Walter 1889
Buck III Charles Henry 1969
Buckland Joseph Payson 1857
Buckley Christopher Taylor 1975
Buckley Fercus Reid 1952
Buckley James Lane 1944
Buckley, Jr. William Frank 1950
Buckner Mortimer Norton 1895
Bulkey Jonathan Ogden 1923
Bulkey Tuzar 1865
Bull Cornelius Wade 1863
Bullock Stanton B. 1981
Bumstead Nathaniel Willis 1855
Bundy Frederick McGeorge 1921
Bundy Harvey Hollister 1909
Bundy Hollister 1909
Bundy McGeorge 1940
Bundy William Putman 1939
Bunnell Phil W. 1927
Burch Robert Boyd 1909
Burke III James Eugene 1975
Burke, Jr. Charles Clinton 1937
Burkus Gregory James 1982
Burnham Curtis Field 1840
Burpee Charles Winslow 1883
Burpee Lucien Francis 1879
Burr William Shedden 1834
Burr II Charles B. 1962
Burrell Joseph Dunn 1881
Buritt Edwin Authur 1915
Buritt John
Bush Derek C. 1967
Bush George Herbert Walker 1948
Bush George Walker 1968
Bush James S. 1922
Bush Jonathan J. 1953
Bush Prescott Sheldon 1917
Bushnell Samuel Clarke 1874
Bushnell William Benedick 1865
Butler Francis Eugene 1857
Butler John Haskell 1863
Butterworth Frank Seiler 1895
Buttles Albert Barnes 1842
Cable Benjamin Stickney 1895
Caldwell Samuel Smith 1933
Calhoun Governeur 1891
Callahan Hugh Andrew 1899
Came Charles Green 1849
Camp Arthur Goodwin 1907
Camp Clinton 1850
Camp Stuart Brown 1900
Camp Walter 1880
Campbell Alan Barnette 1919
Campbell Charles Soutter 1909
Campbell Gavin Elliott 1982
Campbell James 1849
Campbell James Alexander 1882
Campbell Kimberly C. 1981
Campbell Treat 1878
Campbell William Harvey Wilson 1856
Cangelosi Russell Joseph 1972
Capozzalo Douglas Daniel 1976
Capron Paul 1960
Capron Samuel Mills 1853
Carey John 1945
Carlin, Jr. William John Carr
Carlisle James Mandeville 1901
Carlsen Ray Allen 1957
Carlsson Mats Erik 1981
Carpenter George Boone 1902
Carpenter Robert John 1859
Carter Charles Francis 1878
Carter Edwin Osgood 1837
Carter Frederic Dewhurst 1919
Carter Lyon 1915
Carter Walter Frederick 1895
Case George Bowen 1894
Case, Jr. Philip Benham 1970
Caskey Taliaferro Franklin 1865
Casscells Christopher Dyson 1976
Cassel John A. 1958
Caukins, Jr. George Peck 1943
Caulkins John Erwin 1948
Cerveris Michael Ernest 1983
Chadwick George Brewster 1903
Chafee John Hubbard 1947
Chamberlain Daniel Henry 1862
Chamberlain Leander Trowbridge 1863
Chamberlain Robert Linton 1861
Chambers William Lyon 1843
Chandler William Henry 1839
Chandrasekhar Ashok Jai
Chapin Charles Frederick 1877
Chapin Lebeus C.
Charney Charles Meigs 1865
Chase Henry 1850
Chauvenet William 1840
Cheney Clifford Dudley 1898
Cheney Frank Dexter 1900
Cheney Howell 1892
Cheney Philip 1901
Cheney Ronald Lawton 1958
Cheney Russell 1904
Cheney Thomas Langdon 1901
Cheney Ward 1896
Cheney, Jr. Knight Dexter 1892
Chester Carl Thurston 1875
Chibundu Maxwell O. 1980
Child Calvin G.
Child Linus Mason 1855
Childs Starling Winston 1976
Chimenti Norman Victor 1962
Chin Mnu
Chittenden George Hastings 1939
Choa Christopher James 1981
Chouteau Rene Auguste 1942
Christian Henry Hall 1901
Cirie John A. 1964
Clark Albert Barnes 1864
Clark Alexander Ray 1895
Clark Avery Artison 1909
Clark Charles Hopkins 1871
Clark Douglas Wells 1972
Clark Gerald Holland 1965
Clark Harold Terry 1903
Clark J. Bruce 1978
Clark Stephen Edward 1965
Clark Thomas W. 1961
Clark William Judkins 1948
Clark, Jr. R. Inslee 1957
Clarke Thomas Slidell 1875
Clarke William Barker 1849
Claude, Jr. Abram 1952
Clay Alexander Stephens 1964
Clay Cassius Marcellus 1918
Clay Green 1859
Clay Jesse Loring 1963
Clay Lowell Melcher 1939
Clay Timothy J. 1965
Clucas Lowell Melcher 1939
Cobb Henry Nitche 1855
Cochran Thomas 1904
Cochran Thomas 1894
Coe Edward Benton 1862
Coe Robert Elmer 1872
Coffin Edmund 1866
Coffin Henry Sloan 1897
Coffin James 1868
Coffin William Sloane 1949
Coffin, Jr. William Sloan 1949
Coffing Churchill 1834
Coggins Daniel Seton 1964
Cogswell John M. 1961
Cohen Kenneth Saul 1968
Cohen Robert Lewis 1974
Coit Joshua 1853
Coit William 1837
Coke, Jr. Henry C. 1926
Cole Hamilton 1866
Coleman John Caldwell 1881
Colgate Henry Auchincloss 1913
Collier Samuel (Sam) Carnes 1935
Collin Frederick 1871
Collin William Welch 1877
Colt LeBaron Bradford 1868
Colton Henry Martin 1848
Colton Willis Strong 1850
Condit Albert Pierson 1850
Condit Charles 1848
Condit Stephen 1856
Connelly, Jr. William James 1948
Connick Andrew Jackson 1952
Connick Louis 1945
Connor Lemuel Parker 1845
Connor William Gustine 1845
Connors David Michael 1974
Connors James Joseph 1959
Converse George Sherman 1850
Conway, Jr. Joseph Leo 1981
Cook Robert Johnston 1876
Cook II George 1945
Cook III George 1948
Cooke Eldridge Clinton 1877
Cooke Francis Judd 1933
Cooke James Barclay 1893
Cooke John Parick 1959
Cooke Robert Barbour 1936
Cooke Walter Evans 1895
Cooley Harlan Ward 1888
Coombs Orde Musgrave 1965
Coon John 1847
Cooper Carnell 1977
Cooper Henry Sage Fenimore 1917
Cooper Jacob 1852
Cooper John Sherman 1923
Cooper William Frierson 1838
Corbin William Herbert 1889
Corey Alan Lyle 1911
Corey III Alan Lyle 1965
Cornell Thomas Hilary 1915
Corning Erastus 1903
Cornish, Jr. Percy Gillette 1914
Cortelyou, Jr. George Bruce 1913
Corwin Robert Nelson 1887
Corwith John White 1890
Cosgrove Thomas Francis 1969
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Davison Daniel Pomeroy 1949
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Finney Graham Stanley 1952
Finney John Warren 1945
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Fisher George Park
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Fisk Stuart Wilkins 1840
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Foster John Pierrepont 1869
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Foster Roger 1878
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Fowler William 1860
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Frankelm Scott David
Franklin Richard David 1983
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Gallaudet Herbert Draper 1898
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Garnsey William Smith 1933
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Gile Clement Moses 1914
Gile Lawrence Maclester 1978
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Goldberg Richard Julius 1977
Gonzalez Timoteo F. 1974
Goodenough John Bannister 1944
Goodyear Robert M. 1949
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Gordon Edward McGuire 1938
Gordon George Arthur 1934
Gould Anthony 1877
Gould James 1918
Gould James Gardner 1845
Gow Robert Haigh 1955
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Grandine Thomas Allan 1981
Granger Gideon 1843
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Graves William Phillips 1891
Graves, Jr. Earl Gilbert 1984
Grayson James Gordon 1940
Grayson William Ca
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:01 PM
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126. Congratulations Seventhson,
I believe you as much as anyone on DU has contributed to Kerry's being the nominee. Thank you. You will never know how much your time and effort is appreciated by the Kerry supporters.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:12 PM
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128. yup
And all the skull and bonesman love the enahncement of their reputations by the left: their fascist credentials are secure.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 08:23 PM
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130. Oh Well
Time to get in on the Death March
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