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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:33 AM
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Poll question: Are you voting on "Black Box" voting machines today?
A "Black Box" voting machine is one with no audit trail, no paper ballot, and no way to recount votes by hand. Are you voting on a Black Box Voting machine today? Where are you voting?


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coltman Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:43 AM
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1. Don't know
Last year voting for Gov. of Ohio 2punch cards and 2machines(count that 4 attempts)would not let me vote for the dem candidates for gov.& Lt. gov. The chad thing was not perforated.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:43 AM
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2. NY: lever machines
I really like the lever machines.

There's no way that they can be manipulated from a centralized location. Faud is possible, but it would take so much time and effort, you'd have to do each machine separately, and they all have locks and counters are checked as each vote is cast...

Hopefully NY will be requiring a paper ballot, voter verified, with new machines. We're NOT going to have Diebold here...
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:43 PM
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13. me, too
100 year old technology in NY...still works for me!
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:44 AM
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3. Yes
In San Diego.

I intend to make a big stink about it, too. I'm just going to ask the poll worker to check and verify that my vote was counted. Then act surprised when he doesn't have a ballot to show me. Then ask him how he proposes to do a recount if there's a problem.

I'm going to try timing it to get a good crowd, too.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:50 AM
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4. Please report your experiences!
I would be interested if they can answer your questions.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:58 PM
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16. Nope
No answers. Lots of confused looks.

"We haven't had any problems with them all day" was the best response I got.

And everybody else in the room was interested in what I had to say.

I don't think the poll workers are too happy with me.
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Lauren2882 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:38 AM
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5. Definitely not; caucusing n/t
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:31 AM
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6. Yes, Georgia
We have no option - the entire state is DRE. Even absentee ballots are counted by these machines.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:06 AM
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7. We still use punchcards.
If and when the dreaded black boxes appear, I'm going absentee.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:12 AM
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8. Yes, in Columbus, Ohio
I'm in the heart of Diebold country, so I'm stuck without an audit trail. :( I've used the touch screens several times already. They're incredibly easy to use which is wonderful, but the lack of safeguards always leaves me wondering if I've actually voted.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:56 AM
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9. any reports?
have you voted yet? Please keep us informed, thanks!
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:34 PM
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10. Looks like we no longer live in a Democracy
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:34 PM
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11. .
:kick:
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:17 PM
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12. San Diego, California
Where our registrar of voters selected Liebold with no public input, and keeps saying there's no problems with them. Blegh
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:44 PM
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14. I hope so
I'm curious about them.

I'm also not paranoid.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:57 PM
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15. kick
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