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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:01 AM
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I intend to vote for Dean today, and here is why.
I was a Gore man in 2000. I know many people found Gore uninspiring. I know people thought he ran a lousy campaign. But I am not one of those people. I think Gore ran one of the best campaigns in modern times and would have made a great President. But our country was robbed.

The next three years have been like the movie, The Lion King. We went from the benevolent and wise rule of President Clinton to the maniacal rule of President Bush. Like Scar, Bush took over in a coup. Like Scar, Bush invited the hyenas to feed upon the land. Like Scar, Bush has laid waste to our country. What was once a place worthy of pride has become a barren wasteland. What was once a peaceful land devoted to expanding the circle of life has become a militaristic nation devoted to invading the Middle East. Like Pride Rock we are in need of a savior.

Our Democratic party has been like Simba. It has wandered in the wilderness singing Hakuta Mikata while the country has been laid waste to. It has been paralyzed by fear and blame manufactured by the treasonous Bush and silly philosophizing by the Timon's and Pumbaa's of our party. Like Simba, it has been lead astray. And like the denizens of Pride Rock we are in a nightmare without end.

Like Rafiki, Dean is knocking some sense into our party. He is showing us our inner Mufasta and the way to prosperity and power. If we want our party to return like Simba did then we need to follow Rafiki's advice like Simba did. The citizens of our country need us like citizens of Pride Rock needed a resurgent Simba.

Clearly I have taken this analogy as far as I can. And yes, I know it is a bit overdrawn. But Bush really is much like Scar. And our country really is much like Pride Rock. And we really do need a resurgent Simba. We really can't afford another term of Bush. The hyenas need to be sent home. And Dean is best positioned to do this.

Dean took on one of the most contentious issues of our time in 2000. Giving gays and lesbians the same relationship rights as their straight siblings was a boldly risky move for a man who would later run for President. When I was growing up the idea I could have anything like a marriage relationship was literally unthinkable. I believed myself doomed to a life similar to that in Crusing or worse one of utter aloneness. Thanks in part to Howard Dean, a gay person who graduates in 2018 will have never lived in a time during which the thought of a gay or lesbian couple having those rights is unimaginable. This is an important issue. It involves serious things and serious people. It is no accident that civil union certificates are looked upon as a holy grail in the gay community. It is tangible proof that we are real citizens with real rights that are taken seriously.

Dean treated us like adults. He told us the truth that full gay marriage made him uncomfortable. But then he fought like Hell for us. He took on the forces of darkness that helped bring about the desolation of our country. They tried to take back Vermont and instead Vermont took them out. Even with leftist challenge Dean got half the vote and a 5th term. Dean risked his career to give a people a right so fundamental that it is hard to think of a person without them as a full citizen. Then he beat the forces of darkness and cemented our rights. He was a real friend and deserves our gratitude.

But this isn't a mercy vote. As impressed as I am with his granting those rights I am more impressed with the fact he won. I know about the ruthlessness of gay rights opponents. I know that no lie is too low, no tactic too base, and no act too hypocritical for the alleged Christians these people are. Dean had to campaign in a bullet proof vest. Something he doesn't often tell people but it is true. Dean will beat these base people.

His record is one of fiscal discipline combined with social and governmental liberalism. Fiscal discipline is necessary in our times. We can't return to the prosperity of the Clinton era without a return to the fiscal values of the Clinton era. Dean's record is one of fiscal sanity and creating jobs in Vermont. While the nation was being turned into a barren wasteland by the current administration, Vermont has run like a well oiled machine. Where the current administration created debt, Dean created surplus. Where the current administration has created uninsured Dean has created insured. Where the current administration had created joblessness and despair, Dean has created wealth and prosperity.

Like any governor, Dean has a record to run on. The comparison of that record with Bush's will win this race for us. And, not only that but Dean will fight back and has experience doing so. He, and his supporters, won't let the distorting demagogues of desolation run amok. We won't let these people win the way they did last time. He showed us that in 2000 and will show us that again.

Dean is a true friend, a real winner, and will be a great President


I wrote this on January 18th. It is every bit as true now. I know he won't be our nominee but he was there for me till the end and I will be there for him.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:03 AM
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1. I just got back from the polls and voted for Dean here in CT
as did my DUer sister but I will vote for Kerry or whomever the DEM is this Nov...
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:06 AM
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2. He's a quitter ...
quitters never win.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:07 AM
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3. aaaah...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 08:12 AM by jonnyblitz
so what about your boy Clark then? :crazy:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:13 AM
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5. Clark quit too ...
he made an endorsemnet and walked away.

His supporters went to other candidates. They aren't making DON'T BE A LEMMING! VOTE FOR DEAN! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! and I Hate Kerry posts.

Dean is gone. Let go JB. Go into the light.

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:25 AM
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7. some of Clark's supporters are stilll voting for him in the primary
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 08:35 AM by jonnyblitz
as evidenced by posts I have just read this morning. People in glass houses.. but anyways be well and have fun telling people how they should vote in a more enlightened fashion.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:09 AM
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12. And - - by the way, if you think he is a quitter than I suggest you read
Who Moved My Cheese. Some people have enough vision to know that their purpose lies in other directions.

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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:01 PM
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23. He is a quitter. His was NOT a noble cause!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:28 PM
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26. says you.
whatever...

:boring:
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:28 PM
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45. This will never be true
No matter how many times and in how many different threads you repeat it.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:25 PM
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25. "Dean Needs to drop out of the race!"
oh, he did?

"Dean is a quitter!"

:eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:10 AM
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4. what a wonderfully creative letter
thank you for sharing that and proudly check deans name. yea to you. excellent post
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:13 AM
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6. I Agree
and will be voting for the man who inspired the re-birth of activism in this party. He deserves the support.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:39 AM
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8. Just finished
I know that at best we will get one delegate but that is OK.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:48 AM
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9. I will be voting for Dean too
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 08:49 AM by brigadoon
This is a Primary not the election.

I want to vote for the man I feel is closer to my ideas and vision for the country. I believe the convention is the place to come together.

I want Kerry and Edwards to know that they do not have a mandate and that they must make concessions to we the people.

In the general election I will vote for the Democratic ticket. If we win and I am not reasonably satisfied with the leadership. They will NOT be able to take my vote in 2008 for granted.
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Deansspecialinterest Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:55 AM
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10. Voted for Dean in NYC this morning
Before the primaries, many people I spoke to seemed puzzled or even bothered that I should choose to vote for someone who is no longer in the race. Many times I was encouraged to either vote for Kucinich as the lone progressive left in the race, Edwards as the most likely to stop Kerry, or Kerry as the most likely to beat Bush. I stuck firmly behind the candidate I most strongly believed in, although at times I had a hard time explaining why I was so deeply entrenched in my decision. As I walked away from the polling place, I felt proud, satisfied, and a little sad, but I finally understood why I had to do what I did. When he dropped out, though I could certainly understand and respect his decision, I felt at a loss to express what Dean's campaign, and the loss of hope that it would be successful had meant to me. While I had already been spreading the word and writing letters for Dean, I needed to express my support in the most basic and fundamental way we are afforded in this country. By voting for Dean, I was able to see my support of Dean and his campaign through to its natural conclusion. Now, I'm ready to hang back and wait for the general election, where I plan to cast another very satisfactory vote to remove from office the worst president of my lifetime.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:02 AM
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11. Well said. Thank you for articulating what many of us feel.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:22 AM
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13. Well said!
And I'll overlook the "Hakuna Matata" references since I hate the song(was working in a record store when the soundtrack came out and wanted to shoot myself in the head when my tenure was over...).

But I'll be doing the same here in Texas next Tuesday. Power to all those still supporting Dean today. There's supposed to be an announcement sometime this week or next week about the new organization that's starting. Stay tuned!

FSC
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:01 AM
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15. The announcement will be on March 18.
I can't wait.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:00 AM
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14. For all of those reasons and more, Dean will be getting my vote today.
:)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:55 AM
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16. kick
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:14 PM
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17. More votes for Kerry
It's a binary choice right now; Dean has made his statement, and the loyalty of his followers will not make any more influence by reaffirming the depth of the fervor.

Much as this drives me up the wall, I definitely thank the Dean supporters who've taken this road for doing so with a positive and nice approach, even if there is still a hint of "those other guys are weaklings" about it.

It's amazing how the more fervent Clark supporters still bark conservative sounding derision like some abusive Junior High School Coach. (Whenever I hear the "quitters" line, I fully expect to hear someone's last name called out and ordered to take a lap.)

Don't make no sense nohow; if the more adamant Clark partisans want people to obey their hero, Dean supporters are obliging by enabling Kerry.

What a long, strange trip it's been.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:38 PM
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18. If we get a delegate in my district
which is distictly possible, it won't help Kerry one bit. Incidently you are false in assuming Edwards is definitly my second choice in any case. Had Dean not been on my ballot, I probably would have gone to Kucinich.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:18 PM
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40. I have no idea what you're talking about
I made no supposition about knowing who you would or wouldn't have voted for. My basic point was that any vote that's a non-Edwards vote helps Kerry; no other candidate has a chance of nomination than these two, and Kerry's definitely got the uper hand. As an aside, I was trying to point out that the Dean stalwarts were at least being pretty pleasant when doing this.

Clark threw his weight behind Kerry, so any Clark supporter deriding someone for voting for anyone other than Edwards--by my logic, whether one accepts it or not--is being silly, since that voter would be helping him by effectively enabling Kerry.

Not meaning to be difficult here, but were you confusing my post with someone else's?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:29 PM
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41. I don't look at it that way
In my district, I abut Kucinich's, it is possible that Dean, Kerry, Edwards, and Kucinich will get delegates. If I had perfect knowledge as to the exact circumstances of Kucinich and Dean, then my vote may have been different. But I don't. If Dean gets a delegate here, then Kerry won't have been helped at all. If he doesn't then I might have marginally helped him. The difference between him and Edwards isn't enough for me to care.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:40 PM
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19. Good for you.
That's what the primaries are for.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:46 PM
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20. my vote for Dean has nothing to do with Disney movies
But I guess that's what passes for literature these days.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:55 PM
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21. Hey where else are you going to find
a musical nowadays? Maybe Chicago and Moulan Rouge will revive them but this was still during the nadir of musicals on the big screen.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:59 PM
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22. This isn't a freakin' movie. And there will be no happy endings if
you deaniacs continue to cut off your nose to spite your face!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:01 PM
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24. I will vote for whom I damn well please
I don't go and piss all over Kerry threads, maybe because, unlike you, I have a candidate who I can say positive things about.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:30 PM
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46. This is the primary, not the GE!
If there is a massive movement against the nominee in the GE, then you've got a legitimate complaint. Right now, you don't. Come back in 6 months.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:29 PM
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27. Very interesting..........
Who'd you root for in the Superbowl...the Steelers?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:32 PM
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28. I am a Bengals fan
so I really didn't care about the SuperBowl. I really liked Brady before the SOTU but now I don't. He is still cute but his politics suck.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:35 PM
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29. I agree with you about Brady (short of his being cute).........
but I just wondered because you'd think you'd want to be on the side of a team that was actually in the game, rather than pulling for a team that got knocked out early on.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:37 PM
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30. If we get a delegate
and we might, then he isn't out.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:39 PM
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31. Fair enough......
and I do wish you best of luck with getting a delegate.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:51 PM
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33. Cling tightly to that hope.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:57 PM
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34. Dean got 11% in Idaho
a state in which he had no discernable organization. Here he has a good one. It is by no means a sure thing, but it is certainly doable.
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:14 PM
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37. I don't root for teams that cheat
Especially not when the teams owners are rigging the game - to lose. :grr:
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:31 PM
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42. Who cheated?
?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:45 PM
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32. enjoy
I think we are the happiest voters at the polls.
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jansu Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:00 PM
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35. My whole family voted for Dean today! Felt hopeful by doing so!
I felt like a true Patriot, an American. Someone who stands up for their beliefs and votes for what they believe in. Who doesn't give up when the way gets rough!

It was not a wasted vote! How condescending to tell me that my choice, my beliefs and my vote is wasted! "We will tell you what to think" "Just another Brick in the Wall"!

It is about the future.

I voted for Dean because he believes the same way I do about most issues. He also sees that it is not about the battles, but the war! We have lost the battle for the nomination, but we have not lost the war for the heart and soul of this country! To bring it back to the Democratic issues and positions. Because of Dean and Kucinich, these issues are part of the process. We must have all the delegates we can get, so that we have the ability to form the Party Platform, and not have our ideals thrown out.

How many of those voting for others in these Primaries, do not want, at least a few of issues, which these two men have been bringing to the table? You may not like the man, but are some of their positions important to you? Do you want those to just disappear? All of these important issues will, if there is not "many voices", at the convention to keep it honest!

Loved your post!
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TwoMomsInMass Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:09 PM
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36. Thanks for this...
I was a Dean supporter and I have been wrestling with what to do when I go to vote today. Being a lesbian mom (about to celebrate my 12th anniversary with DP) and living in Mass., I can't stomach a primary vote for Kerry after he endorsed an anti-marriage constitutional amendment here in Mass. I don't expect him to endorse full marriage, but I do expect him to defend the constitution, INCLUDING the state constitution. I also wrote-in against Kerry in '02 when he was running unoppposed, as a protest against his vote for the war. It's hard to imagine supporting him in a primary!

I couldn't decide between voting for Dean and Kucinich, but I think I will vote for Dean. Though his support is not unequivocal, it's about what I would hope for from Kerry, and you've reminded me that he really has been an ally through the years. I went to his web page and refreshed my memory on his positions, and it reminded me that there are a lot of other issues that count, particularly in regard to health care and children.

So I'll be voting for Dean. I'm sad that it didn't happen, but hopeful that maybe the Democratic party will learn to pay attention to the left. I can dream, can't I? ;)

And in November, I'll breathe deeply and vote for ANYONE who has a good chance of beating Bush!

Cate
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:27 PM
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38. kick
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:35 PM
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39. Dean got my vote and my husband's vote today too.
eom
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:34 PM
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43. Check This Out, DSC.
Your private message to me last week about voting for the Dean delegate had an impact on yours truly. I stayed with my original candidate today, after all. I voted for Governor Dean this morning here in Southern California.

So everyone can blame DSC: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x419630#420795
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:51 PM
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44. Wow I greatly appreciate it
It would be great if Dean got a delegate in your neck of the woods but that is probably too much to ask. I will be watching the results with the person who will be delegate here if we get our 15%. Keep your fingers crossed.
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