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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:15 PM
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The 2008 Dem Ticket Will Be Clinton/Obama
You read it here.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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1. i agree
you must be watching Countdown :)

:hi:
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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13. Big Whoop. Wanna Fight About It?
Good to see that KO is a "Family Guy" fan.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:30 PM
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26. now you want to pick a fight with me????
choose your weapon!!!



or



or

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:33 PM
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28. I like pie!
O8)
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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2. Tell ya what
I've been saying exactly that since Obama's Keynote address in 2004.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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3. Nope, Obama/Clinton maybe! n/t
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:17 PM
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4. Only if you want 8 years
instead of 16.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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6. Clinton will NEVER accept a veep
There's nothing to be gained.

I'm not sure Obama gains from it either.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:18 PM
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5. Not a chance.
No president could trust Obama as a VEEP.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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12. Why not? NT
NT
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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7. No it wont. Two Senators == bad mojo
Whomever gets the nomination will pick somebody with executive experience, either a governor or somebody who was in charge of a cabinet-level agency.

Two Senators is not a good combination-- especially when the head of the ticket has less than two terms under her/his belt.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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10. In addition...I'm not sure he gains anything from being her VP
For the most part, her VP would have to comepete with Bill for input.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 PM
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34. hmm that could be a problem.. but assuming she'd be fair
He could gain a lot of experience and the trust of American voters.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:44 PM
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33. Then again, she does have unlimited access to a former president nt
:shrug:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 PM
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38. So what would be Mercer's proper role?
President or Vice-President?

Personally, I can't see him playing second fiddle to anyone.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:17 PM
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44. He's getting his own Eye Spy division.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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8. Let Clinton lose to McCain in 2008
... and win in 2012.

Obama is a Reagan.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:24 PM
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18. When Howard Dean was running "Democracy for America"
...Dean said he wanted it to be a left-wing equivalent of the Christian Coaltion.

But Howard Dean doesn't have the values of the Christian Coaltion, and Obama doesn't have the values of Ronald Reagan.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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9. In all honesty I would rather see an Edwards/Obama ticket or vice/versa if need be. n/t
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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11. too big of egos on both sides to do that nope sorry nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 PM
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14. Not a snowball's chance in hell.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:23 PM by avaistheone1
Hillary and Obama have proved already that they can not be in same room for more than 10 minutes without killing each other. Both Hillary and Obama each in their own right are polarizing figures with an algorithm when positioned together that would take votes away from the Dem party, not bring them in.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:29 PM
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25. Hillary reminds me of me..........
and indeed, she will go for the win.........and this is a winning ticket...........

Money and the young vote Obama can bring with him for the General Election....then the future President to follow.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:43 PM
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40. Too bad Hillary and her husband decided to go so negative about Obama
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:44 PM by earthlover
It makes this ticket unlikely.

What is really going to happen is that the two candidates will continue their obsession with each other's jugulars.

There is some merit to a pair, both of which would be firsts, running on change. Hillary, being the chameleon she is (or isn't, depending on the light and surroundings...) could embrace change. Only because she sees it as a means to promote herself, but that is all she is about anyway.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 PM
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15. No way. If Hillary wins by smearing Obama, he better NOT allow her to USE him to try to get back
the Black vote. IF she wins, I bet Obama runs against her in '12 and beats her.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:22 PM
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16. No effin' way.
Obama won't play 2nd fiddle, and Hillary won't want to be outshined by the rock star. VP will be Richardson, Dodd, Biden, Bayh...someone boring but respected.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM
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21. I predict Wesley Clark
...if she gets the nomination, and doesn't choose Obama.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:32 PM
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27. Yes he will..........
he wants to be President in the future and it is the only way it will happen. We would of had Colin Powell as a President too.........if he wanted it. Why?...Because we as a country got to know and trust him....as the VP position can do for Obama. It's his only option to reach his goal.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:40 PM
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32. yeah
If its Hillary/Obama or vice versa, I'd be happy with that. It would take away all these negative feelings I have towards them right now. We need some unity. However it she picks some boring schmo like Richardson/Bayh, that would be a total snoozer and I won't be happy about it.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:33 PM
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29. Both, Obama and Hillary are rock starts.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:35 PM
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31. Exactly.
This would be like David Lee Roth and Axl Rose starting a band together. How far do you think that idea would fly?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:22 PM
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17. Yes, Yes, Yes and
YES! Bill Clinton can take V.P Obama around the world teaching/mentoring him to be the next President! I think of it like a Medical Residency Program.......O8)

Obama then will be the greatest President since George Washington............it will earn him a spot on Rushmore then.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM
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20. Yep, right next to Hillary. On Rushmore, that is.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM by goldcanyonaz
:woohoo:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:27 PM
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22. Exactly!
:smoke:
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:27 PM
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23. "YES! Bill Clinton can take V.P Obama around
the world teaching/mentoring him to be the next President!

Ya, he can tag along with Bill and Bush sr. on their next tour ...NOT.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:51 PM
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41. Bill and Sr. did it for humanitarian reasons.
You got a problem with that?
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:24 PM
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19. It'll be Clinton/Richardson
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:28 PM
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24. Sadly, it won't be Richardson
He was vetted last time, and came up short, quite possibly because of inconsistencies in his personal life.

I think he'd be great myself, but I doubt he'll even get an offer.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 PM
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37. I wouldn't count him out
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:34 PM
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30. Have you been drinking?
Just kidding! But seriously... I absolutely do not see this happening.

I've got Evan Bayh at the top of my pool. I think she'll go midwest, white, milquetoast, relatively unknown and non-spectacular.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:48 PM
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35. They better kiss and make up!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 PM
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42. In politics that's done a lot.
Kiss
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:49 PM
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36. And folks say Drugs Don't Kill Brain Cells .... LOL
Not a chance in this world (but hey if there is a bizarro world where everything is opposite, you got a chance of being right there!)
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 PM
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39. Pfah Edwards/Obama
Hillary hasn't even really begun her national campaign and already so many hate her. I don't think she'll win the nom no matter what happened in a couple of places or what the polls say.

At least I'm hoping she doesn't anyways but if she does her and Obama do not play well together.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:58 PM
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43. maybe if they both see it as a good thing
for each of them. Both are ruthless and ambitious, prerequisites for the presidency. if Hillary and Obama think they can help themselves by helping the other, they can find a way to put their personal issues aside. Obama will accept the second spot if he thinks Hillary can win and will then help him succeed her. She will if he makes it worth her while.

I just took a poll today about the candidates. Their positions on all the important issues are the same. There is no ideological difference between them. the only real question is if Clinton/Obama is the strongest team. Both have already promised to support the party's nominee.

The other more troublesome issue is that racism is not dead in the US just yet. While Obama is acceptable to the majority of the white population now, I wonder just how big that majority is. I raise this issue because of the racial split I am seeing in SC where Obama is pulling only 10% of the white vote. Not sure if Edwards, with 40% of the white vote is hurting Obama or Hillary more there.
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