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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:39 PM Original message |
Support for Obama among the base makes no sense |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nice try |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Obama's support from the base STILL makes no sense |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. My spouse isn't impressed either |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. The clintons and their love of Rovian politics & the bush's* |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
97. NEWBIES and Liberal Base Are Basic MOB Mentality of Following W/O THINKING... |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. well when you put it like that, its about right |
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sonroadera (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. It makes no sense you, but it makes a lot of sense to me |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Really? Why? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. The fact that you have not yet forgotten to breathe makes no sense to me, but I deal with it. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. So you can't really articulate your reasons why you support him? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Because you're not worth it. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I think it's because you don't have a good reason... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Clearly not enough of them. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. I think his reason is |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
100. It's a cult personality thing. |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why deceive when so easily proven wrong? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Well that's just ridiculous |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Gee...ain't facts like actual voting records tough |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Those aren't facts when he has rarely voted |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Hillary has similar ratings yet Obamites call her conservative |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. He talks a good talk. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
105. And don't forget, according to YOU, he was a Muslim and lied about |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Similarly, I prefer Obama to Hillary Clinton because he opposed the Iraq War from the start, but... |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. there's really lots of other stuff |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. All signs are he would have voted "present" .... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. A month after the IWR vote in the Senate, Obama said he would have voted "Nay" |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Welcome newby, |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Obama has flipflopped on the war |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. No he hasn't no matter how often the Clinton's say so |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. You know, if Hillary's vote had been the deciding vote, then maybe |
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water (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. The fact that he's not far left will help him out in the general election. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I really doubt he is going to get the nomination.... |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. And for some of us, it makes not sense that the rally isn't behind the progressive |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. That's what I'm saying..... |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. Thank you. n/t |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
106. When was Edwards particularly liberal? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. "Talks a good talk" (to reference an earlier poster) -- this makes good sense in the general. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:09 PM Original message |
What's his? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. platitudes ARE vision |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. No one wants to have a beer with Obama |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Do you think people want to have a beer with Clinton? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I'd rather have a beer with Edwards |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Well, hell, if she wins, I think she'd be pretty decent. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I could kick Gore in the ass for not running |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Exactly. It would have been a totally visionary story. |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. "Obama has a 95 percent liberal rating |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. And Hillary has similar ratings yet Obamites call her conservative |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Exactly |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Obama people don't just call her that |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. Hey LC, I'm conservative, I like lower |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
101. I don't call her conservative, I call her deceitful and misleading. |
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netania99 (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Americans for Democratic Reform |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. He has done it through a cult of personality and being a cypher with no real positions |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
102. The "cypher" with no real positions has a ton of stuff at his |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
103. I like these too! |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. "I just don't see anything to recommend the guy".... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. How do you decide who to vote for? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. Deleted message |
MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. So all Edwards or Clinton supporters are trolls? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. no, not at all. when you post trollish OPs, you look like a fool. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. There's nothing trollish about stating my opinion |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. when you basically state a frontrunner has no business being in it, yeah it is. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Well I plead guilty.... I think he is a total media creation |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. i don't whine about that shit.... next? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. No, just the ones who act like you. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Obamite thugs threaten anyone who speaks out against Obama. Ignore them |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
38. The Borg wants you assimilated! |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. No, you can also vote for John Edwards |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. How is he more progressive then them? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. He had to represent his constituents, like every politician |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
107. You aren't very knowledgable are you, pumpkin? |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
108. Exactly |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. He's likeable, which Hillary isn't |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Thank you for an honest response |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I might vote Edwards or Obama |
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MS Liberal (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well said!!!! |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. Damn, sound like a repug stomp speach. LOL Just saying.... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Why? Because I think the POTUS |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
109. Suzanne Goldenberg of the Guardian and author of "Madame President" |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. There are various quotes of Clinton's praise of Reagan stated on Malloy Jan 23rd . Also... |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I think Walmart trumps a dodgy landlord who donated to him. Lovely Lovely walmart. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Rezko is no mere donor |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Oh come on.... |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. He figures he'll be a figurehead like his idol, Reagan n.t |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
68. He's not a "bad guy" any more than Hillary is "scary." |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Sad, isn't it? We let the media do the nominating |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. You're exactly right. And now it's beginning to look like the media... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yes, it's like a horrific replay.... |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
70. Ok. |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
71. Ignored |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. maybe someone else can help me here.... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
75. He offers a fresh start and a new direction. I believe in going forward not backwards. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. If you're tired of divisions, stop watching politics |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. I don't dislike Obama..... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
84. How do you feel about Clinton, then? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I'd prefer Edwards |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I support Edwards, too |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Well just remember then.... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I'll vote for her in the general election, don't worry about that. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Well good - apparently we agree on much more... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Hillary would be much better for this country than any of the Repukes. |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
85. Obama unites, Hillary divides. What about that don't you get?...n/t |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I'll tell you exactly what I don't get..... |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Preach it! |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Exactly! |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Call it what you will... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Well wait until the rethugs get a hold of him |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
98. Are you on drugs? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
99. it's a mystery to me, too. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
104. Partisan shit. Obama is the 10th most liberal Senator |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. I believe the OP is an Edwards supporter |
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