Really quick: Is God on America's side?

[BurtWorm]

How would you answer that if you were a Democratic candidate for president and the NY Times' Elizabeth Bumiller asked you that in the last minute of a debate the Sunday before Super Tuesday?

[Mick Knox]

1. Hes Indifferent IMO...

Its like people thanking god for helping them win the super bowl..

it makes no sense.

[meegbear]

6. You never know

http://don420.ecliptik.com:8080/images/week3%20report/jesus_football.jpg

[BurtWorm]

7. Looks like the son of God is off sides there.

[Qutzupalotl]

27. Tear down the goal post!

[codegreen]

13. wtf, get back on that cross Jesus!!!

there'll be no galavanting around, living and helping people! you're supposed to be perpetually tortured and dead in our minds.

who's got 9 dollars? i've got to go watch the slaughter again...

[saltpoint]

21. Can I bum a ride with you, codegreen?

I've got my nine bucks right here and I can't get enough bloody mutilation and torture.

Hit me again, Mel. Harder.

[flakey_foont]

25. Damnit, Jesus! Throw a block or two!!

[PurityOfEssence]

17. It would be fun to hear them blame him for a loss for once...

Imagine the quote: "I don't get it, I mean I pray all the time and we's practicin' real hard an' everything, and Jesus just fucked us; it ain't fair."

Theres a great moment in near the end of "Semi-Tough" where Robert Preston takes off his cowboy hat and looks to the sky, thinking he's going to lose the game, and says: "Lord, I bin a sinner all my days...and now you're gonna fuck me." It's one of my favorite lines of dialogue ever.

(Credit where credit's due: Semi Tough was written by Walter Bernstein, Dan Jenkins (from his novel) and Ring Lardner, Jr.; see it sometime, it's hysterical.)

[DK666]

2. God dosen't take sides.

EOM

[H2O Man]

29. This reminded me of in WW2

a reporter asked Heavyweight Champion Joe Louis if the USA would win the war. He answered yes, because God is on our side. The reporter wrote about the USA needing to be on God's side. Small change in the wording, but a large change in meaning.

[minkyboodle]

38. I believe Joe actually said

That we were on God's side. I think he meant to say that God was on our side but he slipped up and in doing so IMO said it much more accurately. I think I have heard the recording of him saying it but I'm going on memory so you may be right as well. Either way great post H20 Man its exactly what I think of when this question is asked as well.
Scott

[H2O Man]

39. I stand corrected

You're right! I had it backwards. Thanks. Are you a boxing fan?

[minkyboodle]

45. Oh yeah

Although this last year has been kind of disappointing.. I'm looking forward to Casamayor vs Corrales rematch this weekend. Also I'm a big Hopkins fan so I'm pretty psyched now that Bernard will finally get another chance at a big fight/payday (Oscar fight). Its tough being a boxing fan these days with PPV prices and bad rep but I still say the sport will reward you in the end. I'm assuming you dig the fight game as well. Glad to meet another boxing fan here on DU!!
Scott

[codegreen]

3. "I hope God's on everyone's side, but i won't speak for God"

[Book Lover]

4. "I don't pretend to speak to God"

Would be my safe candidate reply.

[MAlibdem]

5. G-d is on the side of people who stand up for what is right

G-d is only on our side when we take moral action, action President Bush has not taken in some areas (healthcare, taxation, etc) or obviously ignored in others (Iraq, Haiti, etc)

[Chicago Democrat]

8. God thinks that's a silly question.

God is unfathomable, anyone who speaks for Her is asking for trouble.

[northofdenali]

44. LOL! Been reading some Andrew Greeley lately?

He's fascinating! :hi:

[liberalitch]

9. He's at a Leeds united game today....

I hope he doesn't fight with a manchester United yabo

[indepat]

10. Yes, whenever America's policies and actions foster good for humanity

[Caution]

11. It woudl be the height of hubris to answer that question in any manner

other than "I would not presume to know the mind of God"

unless you are an atheist like me and can answer it by saying "Orange"

[arwalden]

12. There Is No God.

[BurtWorm]

14. You just won Berkley!

But you lost the rest of California. :(

[Book Lover]

15. Where's the duck! Where's Endora?!

Allen, it's all freaky and weird not to see at least the duck! Ahh!

[ramapo]

16. God loves all his creations equally

It is the epitome of arrogance to think that God (assuming there is such a being) values an American over a Chinese, Iraqi, Russian or a cow for that matter.

While we're on the subject...this question isn't as bad as using God as justification for war or killing. My favorite trivialization of God is when God is cited as the force that allowed "the team" (substitute your favorite sport) to win.

[saltpoint]

18. "In answer to your question, Ms. Bumiller --

-- I would call for good faith without borders, and leave it at that."

[LibDemAlways]

41. If you believe that God is the creator of all things,

you cannot believe he favors one nation or its people over another.

[saltpoint]

43. Yes. We agree, right?

I think it's damaging to world peace to circulate songs like "God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood, and several other examples. Toby Keith's boot-in-your-Arab-ass song comes to mind, too.

While a president cannot change attitudes over night, a visionary, broad-scoped leader can lead the way toward more universal understanding.

The current president isn't in that league.

[DjTj]

19. Well, there's a wonderful story about Abraham Lincoln...

...during the middle of the Civil War bringing in a group of leaders, and at the end of the meeting one of the leaders said, "Mr. President, can we pray, can we please join in prayer that God is on our side?" And Abraham Lincoln's response was, "I won't join you in that prayer, but I'll join you in a prayer that we're on God's side."

At least, that's how I'm answering that question from now on.

[BurtWorm]

20. That's a winner.

Makes you sound not only pious but more pious than Bumiller, which seems to be the best you can hope for from such an idiotic question.

[IrateCitizen]

22. Bumiller was stock-full of idiotic questions

I found her performance during that debate to be utterly abhorrent, the way she kept interrupting the candidates. I particularly liked the way in which Sharpton put her in her place with regards to the media trying to determine the nominee for the voters.

BTW, I agree with the above statement on the Lincoln story. That was Edwards' answer, and a damned good one.

[BootinUp]

24. I liked that answer too

thanks

[Mick Knox]

23. Everwhere but Chicago

He hates Chicago.

[democratreformed]

26. Which America?

I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

[Forkboy]

28. Not only is he on our side

but he wants us heavily armed as well!

[slackmaster]

30. If there is a God he or she is utterly indifferent about the USA

I know I would be.

[maxanne]

31. I'd say

"I'd like to think that God is on the whole world's side, Elizabeth."

[BurtWorm]

32. "God does not read the NY Times. She reads the Village Voice."

[DinahMoeHum]

33. "I believe God does not play favorites. Only religions do that"

n/t

:kick:

[Ishoutandscream]

34. Why doesn't she ask *? He claims to communicate with God

eom.

[maxanne]

35. LOL

"Let's not accuse God of cronyism and patronage, Elizabeth."

[ChiefJoseph]

36. I would say that...

...God is non-interventionist, so he doesn't take sides. But the beliefs of the US and its allies are closer to what I believe God would want than the beliefs of the Muslim terrorists and Ba'athists we are fighting.

[maxanne]

42. yuck n/t

[TacticalPeek]

37. Our country is founded on the principle that God created all mankind equal

with inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To stray from this great principle that has served us so well for over two hundred years would jeopardize ourselves, our country and our posterity, and thus would be foolhardy in my opinion, Elizabeth, and some would say, unamerican. If you ever actually encounter anyone so foolish and uninformed as to think otherwise, I suggest you take them to the Jefferson Memorial and educate them about our country's founding and history, which makes it a beacon to the whole world.

[JHBowden]

40. Which God?

There are only a few thousand of them.

[rucky]

46. Countries are for humans

[mzmolly]

47. Id say "I don't take questions for God"

:hi: