Senators Clinton and Obama- are you ready to lead? Prove it!

[Beaverhausen]

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/ProveIt

President Bush wants the Senate to pass retroactive immunity for telecommunication companies who spied on Americans. For the President, this isn't just about letting his friends at AT&T and Verizon off the hook. He knows this is the American people's last chance to hold the Bush administration accountable for their warrantless wiretapping of innocent Americans.

The key vote is scheduled for late Monday afternoon and the count is down to the wire. We need 41 Senators to stand up to President Bush and right now we have only 36.

Senators Clinton and Obama are the missing votes. If Senator Clinton or Obama stands up and leads from the floor of the U.S. Senate and calls upon the 8 senators that have endorsed their campaigns to stand with them, we'll have the votes we need and the American people will win.

[Beaverhausen]

1. kick

come on, if you want us to vote for you, give us a reason.

[Beaverhausen]

2. one more rec, please!

[Beam Me Up]

3. Why should I vote for a Democrat who doesn't stand up to this?

Someone, give me one good reason OTHER THAN the proverbial 'lesser of two evils' baloney.

[Beaverhausen]

6. exactly. what either of them do on this issue could help this Edwards supporter feel better...

...about supporting one of them this fall.

[still_one]

11. I know that it may seem not very good for Edwards now, but that really isn't the case

It depends what happens on Feburary 5

Edwards does not need to win a state, but he needs to get as many delegates as possible between now and the convention

Obama and Clinton may not win on the first round at the convention, and then it could be anybody's game

[Beaverhausen]

22. Well, I support him no matter what

but I would like to see one of these two actually put their votes where their mouths are.

[ProgressIn2008]

4. Bravo. Get back to DC and do your jobs - you have power NOW, use it NOW

This one is important. Don't tell me pretty words about what you'll do after you're elected president. Show me what you'll do now. That way, I might start believe you give a damn.

[Kucinich4America]

5. They do need to vote on this.

Florida doesn't count, and it's not going to count (thanks to the DLC) so neither of them have an excuse not to be there on Monday.

I would find it very hard to justify a vote for Obama, if this fascist bullshit passes, and he could have prevented it.

[still_one]

8. It would be very hard to justify a vote for EITHER ONE if they ignore this vote /nt

[still_one]

7. You make an excellent case. They can BOTH take a few hours off of their campaign

to vote on this

[Beaverhausen]

10. Actually, this was from an email I got from DFA- the group that morphed from the Dean 2004 campaign

You remember Dean, right? A democrat who did have ideas!

[still_one]

13. Of course I remember Dean, I still have mugs, buttons, and caps from his campaign

Joe Trippi who worked for Dean I believe is working for Obama now, so it will be interesting

[Beaverhausen]

16. actually, Trippi is working for Edwards as far as I know.

I got involved in political activism through Howard Dean. :hi:

[still_one]

20. Thanks for the info /nt

[HCE SuiGeneris]

9. For me, this is a make or break moment for both of them.

[frogcycle]

12. nice pipedream

they don't give a rat's ass about anything but the slugfest


btw, I'd love to hear the explanation of your handle

[Beaverhausen]

34. It's from the series "Will & Grace"

"Anastasia Beaverhausen" was the secret name of the character "Karen" whenever she was doing something she didn't want anyone to know about.

[still_one]

14. Curious, why did they schedule the vote on Monday? /nt

[Muttocracy]

21. think it has to do with Feb 1 changes in existing FISA leg. n/t

[still_one]

25. Thanks /nt

[frogmarch]

15. I'll be watching. I hope they come through for us on this. k&r

[Andy823]

17. Great post

But I wouldn't hold my breath. They seem to have only one goal, and that is to win at all cost to the party, the hell with votes and the people of this country! If they don't go back and rally congress on this, they will never see my vote!

[robbedvoter]

18. They better be there!

[Muttocracy]

19. kick and rec - this is important and would show their positions on it n/t

[Silver Gaia]

23. Oh, this is an excellent post! Don't TELL us, SHOW us.

[Beaverhausen]

24. one more kick before I sign off

come on Hillary and Barack, show us what you're made of.

[Egnever]

26. Agreed if either of them fail to show up for this vote I will

have to step back and take another look.

[iris5426]

27. K & R!!

:kick:

[Lugnut]

28. Prove it indeed.

This is a crucial vote for several reasons. I want to see who will actually work towards change instead of just talking about it.

[Mark Twain Girl]

29. Kick.

[Seabiscuit]

30. This should be interesting to see what Clinton or Obama will actually do about this. nt

[Beaverhausen]

31. sunday morning kick

[RestoreGore]

32. If they miss this vote, they can't be trusted with our civil liberties

[ProgressIn2008]

33. Exactly. This is a deciding moment for me on these two - there needs to be leadership

or they've proved to me they can't be leaders. I don't care who is doing whatever else, these two need to get back to DC and make themselves heard, loudly, on this issue.

If they don't get back to the Senate and make themselves heard, loudly, as leaders on this issue, then they've made clear what they're all about. They have no interest in holding corrupt power accountable, and that will say all you need to know.

What will tomorrow bring, I wonder?

[Beaverhausen]

35. Endorsements are nice, but let's see these two prove they can lead

[Beaverhausen]

36. kick- doesn't anybody care about this?

[ProgressIn2008]

37. Kicking - this is important.