What if a brokered convention gave us a candidate you don't like?

[MonkeyFunk]

So many people here seem to be rooting for a brokered convention in the hope that some super-candidate they love will get the nomination, despite not getting the most votes.

But the majority of delegates will likely be for Obama and Clinton, and the superdelegates are generally party "insiders".

So what if it gives us Evan Bayh, or Harold Ford, or Dianne Feinstein? (I'm only using those as examples.)

There's no reason to believe a brokered convention would result in a great leftist hero. Additionally, it would be the most anti-democratic action the party's taken in decades.

And finally, we'd end up with a candidate with no money and no campaign organization - s/he would have two months to gear up and win a national campaign - a near-impossibility.

Nah, I don't want a brokered convention. I want the candidate with the most votes to win.

[loveangelc]

1. a brokered convention will come down to one of the three main candidates imo.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. There's no way to say with any certainty

that there WILL be three main candidates come the convention.

And if it does come down to any of the surviving candidates, it damn well better be the one who got the most votes!

[Egnever]

3. The idea of a brokered convention actually scares the shit out of me

Not that it wouldn't be amazing to watch. But theres too many ways I can see it going horribly wrong.

Hillary down by 20 delegates say, and being handed the nom based on supper delegates. While hillary supporters would surely see this as a great thing there would be many that would wake up the next day pissed as hell.

I don't even want to think about the possibilities you mention.

[Alexander]

4. The only way I'd want a brokered convention is if it gave us Al Gore.

Other than that, I'm sticking with Obama.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. so you'd like to throw out the votes

altogether? And nominate someone with no national organization, no campaign money, and no expressed desire to run for the job?

Not me

[Kucinich4America]

6. Since a brokered convention would be, by definition, a rejection of the planned Hillary coronation.

There's no way in Hell a DLC hack like Evan "who?" Bayh, or Diane Military Industrial Complex comes out the winner.

Gore would be the only logical choice to unite the party, AND the only one who could mobilize an organization instantly to fight the two month battle against the Repukes.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. so if she gets the most votes

you want the results overturned?

You should apply for the Supreme Court.

[Political Heretic]

10. I want whoever the people choose, including Hillary Clinton if that's the people's choice

What I don't want is the smoke-filled room candidate.

I don't want a brokered convention. I hate superdelegates. I hate the electoral college. I hate anything that further diminishes the true voice and power of the people.

[Kucinich4America]

19. If Hillary gets a majority of delegates, there won't be a brokered convention

I don't get your argument. If Hillary has the majority, she wins. As much as that would make me puke, and literally weep for my country, that's the rules.

If Obama or Edwards have the majority, same deal (though better results)

If nobody has a majority, then it's likely that the delegates would have to choose a nominee that all would agree on. And I do not see a right wing extremist DLC hack like Bayh or Feinstein being that choice.

So what was your point in bringing them into it?

[JI7]

7. wouldn't a brokered convention give us Obama or Clinton ?

i certainly don't want it.

but i imagine if there is one it would give us Obama or Clinton.

i think most people who want it just want to see what would happen. maybe some of them think it will give them someone else, but it wont.

i would like to see a brokered convention on the puke side.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. Maybe

but I've never seen anyone here hope for a brokered convention so that Clinton or Obama could be nominated.

Most seem to want Gore, then a bunch want Edwards.

If you can't win on votes, throw 'em out, I guess.

[JI7]

11. i don't understand why people think that sometimes

in 2004 even after Kerry had the delegates to win the nomination there were some who thought there would be a chance for a brokered convention with the Kerry delegates refusing to vote for him and go for someone else.

it just made no sense. i think we will see similar stuff this time if/when Clinton or Obama win enough delegates to get the nomination. people posting about how delegates will protest and demand Gore or someone else get the nomination.

i think people are looking for some action, and for them it's a form of fighting against the establishment , those in power etc.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. I don't get it either

Democrats who want to throw out the votes and "install" somebody who didn't win.

[NoPasaran]

14. I think it's because

There are quite a few posters whose actual knowledge of how things work is pretty close to zero. Politics for them consists of worship for a few heroes and loathing a vast array of villains.

[Amanita]

13. Or Joementum? (to make it more interesting)

[MonkeyFunk]

15. LOL

that'd be so funny.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Same as now. There's still the write in line to vote for someone I do like.

[nancyharris]

17. There will not be a brokered convention!

All three Democratic candidates hold firm allegiance to the Democratic Party. The two candidates with the least amount of delegates will withdraw from the nomination in April (perhaps sooner). They all know that a brokered convention would spell disaster for the Democratic Party and will sacrifice their personal desires for the sake of the Party. - count on it.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Oh, I don't think there will be, either

I'm just challenging people who are relying it as some way to install THEIR favorite candidate in an entirely undemocratic way.

[Kucinich4America]

20. The true disaster for the Democratic Party

Is continued tolerance of Bush-Clintonism. Anyone who denies that the Democratic party is much weaker now than it was in 1980 has not paid attention.

[nancyharris]

21. Anyone

that seriously thinks there is no difference between Bush and Clinton is myopic.

[ErnestoG]

22. "I want the candidate with the most votes to win."

What. A. Concept.