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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:20 PM
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Omnipurpose Joe Trippi Hate Thread
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 04:23 PM by Aya Reiko
Now that he botched yet another campaign, feel free to vent any grievances against him here.

Edwards had potential. I'll give him that. But concentrating everything on Iowa proved to be an extremely bad move. And, being the campaign manager, Trippi should've foreseen how dangerous that strategy was and should've done something about it.

Trippi's scheme was the same in '08 than it was in '04. Rely heavily on the grassroots and the internet, and hope a win in Iowa will carry the candidate to the nom. He and Edwards ending up getting most of their support from exactly the same place Dean did in '04, the internet. However there is an inherent problem with this strategy. Richard Bennett wrote:

...Briefly put, Dean's problem is the Deaniacs. The Internet-driven campaign has enabled him to amass a large following, but they're primarily unbalanced people, fanatical followers, extremists, and wackos. In my experience with Internet-enabled activism, these are the kind of people most attracted to online chat and email wars, so an organization that's going to use these tools to recruit has to prune the weirdos before they run off the mainstream people...

...So politics, even in the age of the Internet, is still about people, not about technology, gimmickry, or gadgets, and most of the people are moderate, deliberate, and fairly sensible. Dean learned this the hard way, and the only thing that can save his campaign now is the fact that few people are paying attention to what's happening in Burlington or on the Stupid Network.

A telling fact in all this was Dean and Trippi's failure to believe their own campaign rhetoric. They said the campaign was energizing new voters and bringing in new volunteers to work the campaign, but they obviously didn't provide them with the kind of training and direction that's appropriate for political neophytes...

Source: http://bennett.com/blog/index.php/archives/2004/01/29/the-stupid-campaign/

And both times in '04 and '08 it resulted in outright defeats when the people went to the polls.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:21 PM
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1. Completely agreed. Edwards ran an atrocious campaign, and it's Trippi's fault.
However, no campaign in history was as bad as Giuliani's this year.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:23 PM
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2. More hate and division from the Clinton campaign
because you and everybody else knows that there is no WAY he supports the likes of HRC and her surrogates like Mark Penn-which to some of us is like supporting a Karl Rove candidate-screw you all-go Obama
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:24 PM
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3. I'd like to think that grassroots campaigns can still work on a national scale.
Despite the media's best efforts to stop them.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:26 PM
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4. I don't blame Trippi
There is a rockstar factor for Clinton and Obama that just isn't there for Edwards. Not saying he's better or worse, it's merely the rockstar factor.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:28 PM
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5. Nice analysis... but it couldn't have been done without help from the "Edwards can't win" media meme
So I'll keep hating on them instead.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:31 PM
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6. Hindsight is 20/20
"concentrating everything on Iowa proved to be an extremely bad move"

I disagree. Edwards was tagged as an "underdog" from the very beginning, when HRC had all the momentum. I would have done the same thing, which is to focus on Iowa in hopes of either a win or a very strong second, to erase the false "underdog" stigma.

Unfortunately, it just didn't come together for Edwards like he needed it to. Obama in Iowa and Clinton in NH killed him. He needed one of those two primaries.

Sometimes the best candidate doesn't win. It's that simple, and that painful.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:38 PM
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10. Correct, "It's that simple". AS said above, its not about Trippi or anyone else, its about the MSM
So we have another circular firing squad diary, brilliant stuff.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:31 PM
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7. Edwards' campaign seemed weird because he kept talking about issues.
People who read up on issues are thought of as weird. Most politicians try to avoid talking about issues at all, particularly issues concerning powerful vested interests.

BTW, I've seen more than a few fanatical followers of both Clinton and Obama here. By contrast, it seemed to me that most followers of Edwards did so because of issues he talked about. Most followers of Clinton and Obama seem to focus instead on the narrative that is woven around their candidate.

I write this as a Brit who has no vote in this election at all.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:34 PM
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8. Once reports come out we'll find out how much Trippi stole from the Edwards camp
He's a selfish, greedy egoist who needs to just GO AWAY x(

I'm sorry that Edwards ever got messed up with him!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:34 PM
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9. He is all up in my house with disease.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:40 PM
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11. That's Jeb Bush


Here's Joe Trippi



And here's how Joe Trippi grabs as much cash as possible from campaigns:

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