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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:05 PM Original message |
Obama people: You have to PROVE your candidate deserves progressive support |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did you vote for Clinton, Gore, or Kerry? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Because Obamanation... |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. That sounds very, very right wing...does it make you feel better to |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. as my roommate said |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. I honestly don't know what a progressive is. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. I agree to some extent |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. the organization Progressive Democrats of America just switched to Obama |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Well, I did ask it of them. But the difference in this case is |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Because his resume is almost non-existent |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Before you jump in here, Mags, YOUR candidate doesn't deserve our support either |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. A man of his age has no worthy experience to be included on a resume? Who knew? |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. The same can be asked of Clinton supporters. I'd like to hear them both. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. His state senate record speaks for itself. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Then he didn't need to move to the right of it this year. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Trouble is, every candidate with that strategy got picked off. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Illustrate where Obama "moved to the right"... |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Who are the progressives? |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. No, Obama has to prove it, and he will win if he does. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. We don't have to prove a darn thing... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Cool, well then shut up when we don't support your candidate or even the party. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. You have major anger issues. nt |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. And some Obama people have major arrogance issues. |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. It's called passion and impatience with the machine. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. You're damn right I do. I'm angry that I live in a sham democracy and it's appropriate. /nt |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Preach it, sister |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. LOL! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Well, we should ALL push our candidates. They're OUR candidates. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. Or as Mr. Miyagi would say |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is good advice. Even taking a stand to fully investigate and prosecute any |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. prove he's not |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. no can do- |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. Nah... not really. Not against Clinton or McCain |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. Just pay attention. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Why should we always have to settle for "reading between the lines"? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Is it asking too much to say "I'll get us out of Iraq A.S.A.P"? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. OK |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. Check Bornaginhooligan's link above ... your answer is THERE. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. No one has to prove anything to anyone |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. Obama talks about progressive ideas |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. Actually, many have spoken for Obama here for weeks. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. BBM can you reply to this thread |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. No. I don't. I don't owe you jackshit. I don't have to prove a fucking thing |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
31. I post the proof every day - how about you READ IT |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Thanks, I'm mostly supporting him out of disgust, |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Yeah, the guy who stood up against the Iraq War |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. What? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Sorry |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I think he's great, don't get me wrong |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I agree that Hillary is a last choice |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I can say this much |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Obama doesn't have a clear antiwar position on Iraq/Iran |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Ken there is no real progressive running anymore, so at this point you will |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'll back the ticket. But was there ANY good reason for our choices to be reduced to this? |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Ken., because the archaic primary system is in need of desperate change. Elections should be about |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Obama has always opposed the Iraq war. That has been proven. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Obama's Iran bill was completely different |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sure thing - would you rather give your progressive support to Hillary? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. I can do that, look up his ACLU rating. End of story. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here's my proof: Edwards's issues are the same as Obama's |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
56. Obama is not talking about compromise, but about a NEW progressive majority. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. He doesn't talk about how he will achieve that new majority much and never in the debates |
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SCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
59. Power of grassroots! |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
60. We just let his record speak for itself. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
64. I don't have to "prove" anything.. |
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