Clark Suppoters: One more catharsis--your favorite attacks on Clark

[WillyBrandt]

Post your favorite attack on Wesley Clark! For old time's sake.

I'll start off with my favorite: Clark Referenced the Homestead Act!

[kiahzero]

1. Clark is evil because...

He's connected to X by Y, and Y is connected to Z, and Z links to A, and A links to HILTER!!!1

:evilgrin:

On edit: typo

[WillyBrandt]

2. And I don't need proof that Y links to Z!

I'm just asking IF Y links to Z! Just to see if Clark equals Hitler!

[FrenchieCat]

178. This thread did my heart good!!!

I remember the "He praised Bush and voted for Nixon" routine. I would have to whip out the text of the speech and the recording of Micheal Moore....Then the critics would feel stupid till the next day....

I must have whipped that speech out 75 times! But people shut up after that.

[QC]

77. Yes, who could forget those!

I loved them! Five or six screens of apparently random stuff from Google, concluded with an admonition to "CONNECT THE DOTS PEOPLE!!!!!" Such lunatic intensity!

[Tim_in_HK]

3. God, there's so many . . .

Clark's a Republican while he's also a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton and/or doing the bidding of Bill Clinton.

[boxster]

12. Re: the stalking horse. My favorite modification of that one was...

that he was going to win the nomination, then hand it to Hillary.

How, we're not quite sure!

[Adelante]

4. Well, you got my first fave

Next would have to be the "perfumed prince," although the Waco Whopper comes close.

[Tim_in_HK]

5. Where's the link

on Clark's mind control techniques? As he was the commander of Fort Hood or someother place where someone said they do mind control 'research'

[Leilani]

58. The mind control thread

was one of the best!

LOL!

[KittyWampus]

115. How The HELL Did I Miss The Mind Control Thread?

That one doesn't ring a bell...

Ah well, there will be plenty of shit to fight against Kerry now.

[boxster]

6. Ah, Waco. Gotta be Waco.

That was about the most insane. Clark caused/was involved in/instigated/etc. Waco because equipment was used that was previously at a base he commanded. Or something like that.

[Tim_in_HK]

8. you beat me to it! n/t

[Tim_in_HK]

9. you beat me to it! n/t

[Donna Zen]

25. One of the Wacco threads

said that he'd been spotted IN A TANK!

[boxster]

31. I remember that. The claims just got crazier and crazier.

Maybe the tank claim was trying to compare him to Dukakis!

Hehe.

[Tim_in_HK]

7. Clark

was involved and/or responsible for Waco

[boxster]

10. Another good one: he's in the race to lose, then run as a 3rd party...

intentionally handing the election to the Republicans.

That was a classic.

[Kathleen04]

11. Clark is a Republican that just may be too liberal to be elected.

Lots of threads with Clark in the title tonight. :)

[boxster]

14. We miss him.

Don't we?

[Kathleen04]

20. Definately n/t

[Tim_in_HK]

79. Terribly n/t

[Tim_in_HK]

13. Clark's an indicted war criminal

It's true! A pro-Milosevic group had an 'international trial!'

[WillyBrandt]

15. What was the Haitian man tits one? I forget the details..

[boxster]

19. I must have missed that one. For that, I am happy.

:P

[Donna Zen]

22. OMG!

I'd forgotten...LOL

[cally]

16. Has to be that Clark is a hidden conservative

neocon. That was said as he publically acused * not protecting the US. As Clark said he plans to take on the military/industrial complex. As he laid out very liberal policies. Clark was and is flaming radical.

But he's a 4 star general....he must support the radical repuke regime. Absurd.

[Donna Zen]

17. So many choices

But my very favorite: Clark is the head of a secret oil oligarchy.

Hey! I know...do you want me to copy paste my Pristina rebuttals?

[Tim_in_HK]

21. Ha! I think THAT one

may have slipped by me . . . do tell!

[Donna Zen]

32. Ooooooo! Find it!

It had so many deleted by moderator posts, it may have set a record.

Aside from the thread title there was no mention of Clark at all in the long drawn out research in the original post. 4:30 in the morning...I don't believe I even fought that battle.

[BootinUp]

18. Warmongerer! Bombed a TV Station, consorted with Terrorists

[Auntie Bush]

41. Consorted with terrorists and accepted gifts and exchanged hats!

[Leilani]

51. That's right! The HATS!

How many times did we see the photo of the hats?

[boxster]

54. Oh, man - those stupid hats.

I forgot that one!

[Crunchy Frog]

23. My biggest one was the attacks

on Clark supporters here, suggesting that we were all closet Republicans. I remember all the phoney polls that were rigged to make it look like most of us thought Reagan was a great president, or that most of us voted for Shrub.

That was what bothered me the most.

[Tim_in_HK]

26. In the same vein . . .

I liked the posts that said there was a concerted effort on the part of the Clark blog to take over DU so we could 'freep' the polls. Ridiculous.

[boxster]

29. Yep. It just wasn't possible that a lot of people actually *liked* Clark!

It had to be a conspiracy.

I also loved the number of people who claimed that they "personally knew" 50 people who left DU because of Clark supporters.

Yeah, right.

[BootinUp]

33. He's the DLC/DNC candidate

[boxster]

35. Yes, and he's the DLC candidate, running to lose in '04, so Hillary can

run in '08!

That one was whacked.

[BootinUp]

103. Crunchy's right the bogus Clark supporter polls!

I totally forgot those!

There would be 30% Clark supporters voting Bush instead of ABB.


Yeeeeaaaarrrrgghh!

[Auntie Bush]

24. My God, he almost started World War III.

That's OK though because he is really a crazy, arrogant, hothead Republican because Carl Rove didn't return his call.

Edited to add he lacks charactor and integrity.

[boxster]

27. Those are both good. The WWIII one, especially.

Those were both repeated WAY too often!

[WillyBrandt]

36. Gen MICHAEL JACKSON accused him of almost doing that

That was my favorite detail!

[mikehiggins]

124. I kept waiting for further world from Neverland Ranch.

No. Seriously.

How much credence can you give a Brit general named Michael Jackson?

Sounds like a Smooth Criminal to me. A real Thriller. Was his wife's name really Billie Jean?

[BootinUp]

28. A classic thread for laughs

Why no Sane Person Should Even Consider Clark for Pres:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243

"One thing that is missing from all the lists of questionable doings that Clark has been involved in, is the fact that he was commander of Ft Hood, the army's center for mind control experiments! He wasn't just stationed there!! He was the HEAD of Ft Hood! This is the place where Colonel Michael Aquino, of the San Francisco Temple of Set fame ran his mind control experiments! What else went on at Ft Hood that we don't know about. "

[WillyBrandt]

30. FOLKS! Check out post #2 in the thread above! LOOK!

Look at post #2 below:

(Surprise, surprise :eyes:)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243

[boxster]

34. The more things change....

:P

[Adelante]

45. HAHAHAHAHA

"I voted for that General and I lost my mind and my strawberries." :7

[Adelante]

157. discrete kick

wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money

go here

https://secure.clark04.com/

go here

http://www.wesclarkdemocrats.com/wes_donate.asp

[boxster]

60. Oops, wrong place.

Never mind. See #62!

[BootinUp]

38. This thread may contain the original man tits post too!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367295

[boxster]

44. Hehe. Even William Pitt got in on the act, in a good way!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367321

and...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367364

Those are both hilarious!

[BootinUp]

50. oh lord, I am hurtin!

He said smoke the boot in your avatar! :cry:

[boxster]

70. Hehe. Yeah, I laughed when I read that.

Too funny!

[robbedvoter]

128. I was goung to post the man tities! You scooped me! Daym!

Now I have to settle for "A republican general wouldn't vote for him - and it's not because he works for an opponent campaign so stop saying that!

[Jai4WKC08]

148. Ummm, no...

Clark commanded the 1st Cavalry Division at Ft Hood, as a two-star, from August 92 to April 94. He was not the post commander--that would have been a 3-star, the Corps commander.

But that reminds me of another one that was truly bizarre, esp for anyone who's been in the military for any length of time:

Clark was never really in the Army at all until Clinton made him a general. Clinton was directly responsible for every star.

[Adelante]

37. I remember

A rather respected Dean supporter who kept saying she had it on personal and completely reliable information that the Pentagon or the CIA or somebody was about to RELEASE AT ANY MOMENT all the dirt on Clark and it was really TERRIBLE.

This went on about a week and was quietly dropped.

[WillyBrandt]

39. Did the name remind you

of L'Oreal makeup?

[Adelante]

175. Not that one

Surprisingly.

This one actually had dinner with these Pentagon or CIA people. I almost rolled over and died when she admitted to such a thing.

[Adelante]

158. discrete kick

wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money

go here

https://secure.clark04.com /

go here

http://www.wesclarkdemocrats.com/wes_donate.asp

[LandOLincoln]

159. Say, looky here! Wes has got his own Grovelbot! n/t

[BootinUp]

40. The Tax plan is unfair to the childless!

[WillyBrandt]

42. YES! DING DING DING! I had forgotten about this one

I was truly amazed by the back and forth there

[Adelante]

47. Oh, yes!!

That one! That one! :bounce:

[WillyBrandt]

43. Why is Clark's issues page blank?

[boxster]

48. Because he's been a candidate for 48 hours, you morons!!

Hehe.

[QC]

80. The funniest thing about the Blank Issues Page Affair

was that the guy who apparently came up with it and flogged it most relentlessly was running for Congress at the time, and so I went to his own site, clicked on the issues link and got...

PAGE NOT FOUND!!!

Hysterical! I nearly wet myself over that one!

[HuskerDem]

104. Guess he was spending too much effin time jacking around on DU worrying

about Clark when he should have been working on his issues page huh?

That is too funny.

[QC]

179. Seriously, it was one of the funniest things I have ever seen here.

Almost as good as the Haitian gynecomastia. If I'm not mistaken, he took that link out of his sig line after that incident.

[Leilani]

46. School of the Americas

Clark's connection to SOA, & he was responsible for every coup d'etat that had ever taken place!

[boxster]

49. If he was still in the race, he'd probably be getting blamed for Haiti!

n/t

[HuskerDem]

105. Yes, the man boobs made the Hatians very unhappy and confused

Anarchy ensued.

[sadiesworld]

52. The MTP interview where Clark is asked about WH attempts to link

Sadaam to 9/11. Clark clearly states that the phone call he received was from a Canadian thinktank. Within a couple of weeks Clark is BACK on MTP and Russert asks him AGAIN about the WH call, never acknowledging the original FU. of course, Mr. quotes has nothing. Classic.

[boxster]

53. We're forgetting the BIGGIE: Axciom.

He wrote CAPPS II.
He's using it to spy on the other candidates.
Blah, blah!

[BootinUp]

55. The Smoking Gun on Clark?: Stephens Group and Dean Attack Ads

Folks I bookmarked a shitload of these....this could go on all night

[Leilani]

64. The Stephens Group

& he's a Lobbyist!

He made millions from military industrial complex!

[Leilani]

56. He doesn't blink!!

Meaning, he's sorta wierd in the head!

[BootinUp]

61. and he has character and integrity problems!

[boxster]

66. Yeah, it didn't take long for his detractors to jump on the "he's crazy"

bandwagon.

Proof? We don't need no stinking proof!

[Jai4WKC08]

140. Not the worst, but certainly the strangest

I think I first heard it from Chris Matthews. I hadn't noticed myself, so I found myself watching for it. Still do. It can be maddening to find yourself looking for blinks when you want to be listening to what he's saying. One reason I took to taping every time he appeared on tv, so I could listen without watching at least once.

But then Salon.com came out with that really long, STRANGE article on Clark's blinking, or rather not blinking. And what it allegedly meant psychologically, or about underlying character. Opinions from psychiatrists to psychics. I think there was an astrologer in there too. discussion of West Point training. And analysis of "blink rates" of other politicians. Some idiot said it made him seem "reptillian." Reptillian??! It was all totally bizarre.

[Leilani]

160. Right

& the simple answer is that he wears contact lenses!

LOL!

[BootinUp]

161. I never saw that article.

Anyone wanna e-mail it to me?

[Jai4WKC08]

168. Wish I could help you but...

Salon.com is a subscription service.

If you get it, you can google up the article by the title "Why won't this man blink" Author is Anna Holmes.

You can use their cache function and read the first page. http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:WR1hG7ZLagoJ:www.salon.com/ent/feature/2004/02/02/blink/+salon+blink+clark+%22Why+won%27t+this+man+blink%3F%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[BootinUp]

170. OMG! Another Mind Control Smear!

A shocking piece, even referencing a post at the Free Republic website! I always knew politics was a dirty business but I would never have guessed the shear number of distortions/fabrications used against Clark. It has been shocking to say the least:

http://archive.salon.com/ent/feature/2004/02/02/blink/index.html
You can use a free day pass to access the full article.

snip...

Christopher Carter, a well-known mentalist and stage hypnotist, told me that the mesmerizing effect of a stare is both seductive and threatening, that it can be likened to the interaction between a predator and its prey. "Being stared at is a very intimate act, and whether someone taught Clark to not blink or he knows it instinctively, he certainly could have a lot of control over other people's behavior," Carter said, laughing. "Although eye contact has fallen out of favor with hypnotists, you'll find that the eyes play a big role in the folklore of hypnosis. Svengali, after all, was a hypnotist, and he was often depicted with lightning bolts coming out of his eyes."

[robbedvoter]

171. Someone said: Dear in the headlights. best answer on our blog:

Headlights ON the dear! :-)

[BootinUp]

57. A Decent Discussion of the Kosovo Question and Clark

Not

[BootinUp]

59. "Black Commentator" exposes Clark and Rangel

Well look what I stumbled onto when searching for Wesley Clark's testifyin' church op photos....


Rangel Carries Clarks Water for Clinton: Hype Trumps Facts in Empire of BabbleOn

Clark is a fraud, a poseur, a wind-up action figure in a suit - who belongs to Bill.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=27518

[WillyBrandt]

63. Black Commentator on Clark!

I remember that! That was ridiculous!

[boxster]

62. Wow, what a completely insane six months or so it has been, huh?

Hard to believe that it went so quickly. I've been a political junkie my entire life, but I never expected to care about a candidate - and defend him to the death! - as much as I cared about our guy.

This thread is bringing back a little of the "screw you - you're messing with MY GUY" feelings I often had when people posted this kind of bullshit about him!

:silly:

[BootinUp]

67. you can tell

I haven't recovered :silly:

[RandomUser]

65. The Queen of England is the smoking gun!

There was a smear thread in the P/C forum that alledged that Clark is a neo-con PNAC republican because -- PROOF! -- he was given an honorary knighthood by the Queen of England. And the poster showed "research" over the years that indicated that everyone who has ever been given the award was a PNAC republican. Oh, but only if the recipient was American AND in politics AND a recent recipient AND....

And they actually attempted to defend this position and their "research" and "proof" for an absurd amount of replies. The sole person on my ignore list is a result of this thread.

[WillyBrandt]

68. Yes! Giuliani was on there, Bush I, then Clark!

I've got to ask--who is the person on the list.... I'm curious :)

[RandomUser]

83. It's true! The Queen only knights PNAC Neocons!

Check your PM for the name. :)

I wonder whatever happened to all those Clark bashers. Guess they're not interested in bashing Clark anymore. :eyes: That's ok, we'll bash him for them, and have fun doing it. :)

[Adelante]

84. Willy, I always remember your

Pajamas for a New American Century :D

[BootinUp]

69. Clark cheered on Bush and Blair in London Times!

One of my faves

[boxster]

73. Yes, and confusing Afghanistan with Iraq.

Posters confused the two, both in reference to that article and his fundraiser speech. Posters just refused to acknowledge that there was a difference between the two, that Clark was praising the efforts in Afghanistan, not Iraq, or that the war in Afghanistan actually *was* going ok for a while at one time!

[Leilani]

71. Have you ever noticed?

Clarkies seem to have the most fun on this board?

And are the most cohesive group?

[boxster]

76. Definitely.

I've been pretty proud of us as a group. I'm so happy that very few Clark supporters went through the bitter, sour grapes phase seen in some of the other candidates' supporters!

Rather than being bitter, we acknowledged that he did incredibly well for a *real* outsider in his first political race. And, we hope(d) that this is only the beginning for his future in helping our country!

[RandomUser]

87. Yep

All in all, I think we're pretty proud of ourselves for what we accomplished in such a short time.

And I'll always remember the time we spent together during those 24hr 100+ replies, multiple dupe smear threads. The week after Clark announced was absolutely insane on DU. :)

And sometimes nostalgic laughter and reflective camaderie helps soothe the hurt and helps us move forward.

Onwards to November! :)

[Crunchy Frog]

92. Yup, the Clarkies are the greatest bunch on DU.

I love the DU Clarkies and how we've stuck together and maintained our identity without becoming bitter or negative. You all are a great bunch of people.:grouphug:

I make sure to bookmark all of these Clarkie threads.

[mikehiggins]

125. And we smell really, really nice.

Mostly.

[Crunchy Frog]

173. All except you!

I can smell you right through my computer screen and it's bad. I think it's that Cthulu guy you hang around with.:P

(Kidding, please don't alert on this:cry: .)

[Bread and Circus]

72. My list - you must read - Click this post now !

Clark is a Republican - The GOP and the DEM candidates
Clark is crazy - The GOP and the media
Clark is a "jerk" - Novaks
Clark is going nowhere - the media
Clark is a conspiracy theorist - the White House
Clark is a man of low character - Shelton, not denounced by Edwards
Clark is a flip-flopper - started by the WH, carried out by the media
Clark became a Democrat because Rove didn't consult him - CNN goons
Clark was for the war - other Dem candidates, liberals, the media
Clark WHO? - everyone, starting about 1 week before the NH primary
Clark was responsible for WACO - a few select DU'ers
Clark bombed civilians for shits and giggles - a few select DU'ers
Clark had a hunched neck - those same darn DU'ers again
Clark couldn't wear a well fitting suit - well, uh...he couldn't
Clark would occasionally look like a vampire - my observation
Clark would forget to blink - "Draft Clarkers" worrying about his image
Clark couldn't debate - the same media that purposefully sabotaged him during the debates.
Clark wanted to start World War 3 - nutty British General

Anything I missed?

[WillyBrandt]

74. KICK, Great post!

[BootinUp]

75. Your list reminded me (edited for more fun)

of this classic statment on MSNBC morning of Jan 27 as NH voters are going to the polls, don't know the name of the @sshole commenting on Clark's chances:

"He's going down like the Hindenburg!"
...........

:wtf:

OH THE HUMANITY!

I mean that shit should not be allowed!

[Tim_in_HK]

78. I just read yesterday on DU

someone said that Chris Matthews called Clark 'unethical' with no supporting evidence or commentary. If true, that should be in there. Hadn't heard the 'unethical' charge before.

And the Clinton 'connection '

My god, after reading these, I think it's friggin' AMAZING we did as well as we did.

[Bread and Circus]

118. Actually, I guess I did miss quite a bit !

LOL

[tishaLA]

98. You forgot the SWEATER flap!

and he is unbalanced. And he intentionally announced on the same day another candidate reannounced. And refused to stop running in order to hurt another candidate.

[Donna Zen]

99. Here's one

Clark is light in his loafers----Bay Buchanan

Clark never earned his fourth star----Novak, one hour after Clark entered the race

Clark was fired by Clinton---posted today & everyday

[democratreformed]

119. He used to work for somebody's brother that is tied to some attack

stuff on somebody else.

That was my fave (alluding to Stephens Group, of course) - OH YEAH and THEY'RE REPUBLICANS!!!!!! MY GOD, HE USED TO WORK FOR A REPUBLICAN!!!! Any REAL Democrat would damn sure his boss wasn't a Republican before taking a job!

[BootinUp]

129. Yes see post #55 for that thread title :)

[democratreformed]

138. Oops, missed it! n/t

[Adelante]

177. Yeah

An awful lot of people worried about his ties.

[jmaier]

81. I don't know whether

to laugh or cry reading through this thread. It has been absolutely insane -- and these are the criticisms coming from Democratic supporters!

[BootinUp]

149. when in doubt

"I don't know whether to laugh or cry reading through this thread."


You probably need both! :silly:

Release your Clarkie Tensions! And be Healed!

[WillyBrandt]

82. Check out reply 2 to the Mind Control Post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243

[BootinUp]

85. 29 is a riot too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367771

[Tim_in_HK]

86. yeah, that's

very insightful :tinfoilhat:

[Adelante]

88. Can you cut and paste #2 here?

My Ignore folder is so packed I wouldn't know where to start.

[BootinUp]

89. ok, this will bring back memories for you

seventhson (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-03 10:54 AM
Response to Original message

2. Yikes and double Yikes


Just what we need: the mind control presidency.

"You are getting very sleepy."

"I am antiwar --- drink your koolaid and keep quiet!!!! You are safe with me. Shhh, now....drink."

[WillyBrandt]

90. "Yikes and Double Yikes"

Just what we need: the mind control presidency.

"You are getting very sleepy."

"I am antiwar --- drink your koolaid and keep quiet!!!! You are safe with me. Shhh, now....drink."

(The author is a very active Kerry opponent, and Skull and Bones critic. You might guess his identity very easily.)

[Adelante]

94. Especially since he is named in the post above

But here, Mladic's Hat.

[WillyBrandt]

95. Ack! I'm too slow :)

[BootinUp]

97. Clark was a good looking mongerer though eh?

Need input from the fairer sex of course.

[LandOLincoln]

108. What you mean, WAS good looking???

Wesley is a hottie, no question. After his last rally here in Albuquerque, I myself was forced to risk life & limb to protect the Silver Fox and his virtue from 3-4 pretty blonde college girls hellbent on depravity.

Well okay, so I exaggerate, but they were mighty downcast when informed that not only was he happily married, he had been so for approximately twice as long as they'd been on the planet.

[BootinUp]

109. uh..uh...I was referring specifically to the hat picture in WesDems post

easy...take...it...easy ;)

[Auntie Bush]

91. Oh my God! I caught Gyneacomatia ! Damn that Clark!

[LTR]

93. "I would have been a Republican..."

"...if Karl Rove would have returned my phone calls."

And there were people here who took that seriously!

Geez!

[Tim_in_HK]

96. There were people

who believed the actual exchange took place.

[kayleybeth]

100. Thank you for this thread!

Best laughs of the day :-)

My favorite attack was when someone called me a "leftist zombie jackboot thug" for defending Clark in a smear thread. What the hell does that even MEAN? LOL.

[Adelante]

101. "jackboot thug"

Hmmm, has a familiar ring to it. :eyes:

[LTR]

102. This thread is hilarious!

It shows us Clark supporters have a sense of humor.

[Mick Knox]

106. Clark Kinda Just Faded Away after losing....

hmmmmm thats a good one..

[VolcanoJen]

107. Clark was the Walrus.

Goo-goo-ga-joob!!!

Damn, I miss him...

[swcl]

110. He's been looking very pale,

has he released his medical records? When was his last medical exam?

[BootinUp]

111. Oh no! forgot that one too! Hahahahahahaha

*Unbelieveable*

[Tim_in_HK]

112. Right!

Excellent memory!

What was that, something along the lines, "No, really, I'm a nurse and I am honestly concerned over his health. He looks sick."

*on edit* Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Donna Zen]

114. Looking pale?

That actually showed up in several threads over several days producing a number of speedo pix.

There were some thread titles that were too hard to even click on. I would come here, see that the number of posts was growing, and think..."Maybe I should go and help my fellow Clarkistas." But I just couldn't, I just didn't have the effort in me or the title was beyond belief. So for all those times when I took some time off, I thank all of you who were making the supreme-allied effort, because I knew you were in there, pounding away on the keys, and refusing to permit the "big lie" to continue on unchallenged.

OMG...how about NED? Huh?

My favorite NED moment was some cut-and-paste post that had been part of a thread from several weeks earlier. The reason I knew the source was because I recognized a rebuttal post had been included that I had written. As if that wasn't enough, another basher chimed in to congratulate the original poster on their research.

Huh? I stared at the screen for a few minutes, thought about commenting, but my brain got the better of me with its inner naaaaaw.

[Adelante]

116. Ah, yes, that research

"Impeccable" was the word.

[BootinUp]

117. this thread

is bringing tears to my eyes....

from laughing so hard!

[Adelante]

126. Looking pale?

That was mild. One idiot went as far as citing HIV.

[Piperay]

113. Clarks a republican

I hate that one, having once been a republican I am sensitive to it. It implies that you can't be trusted because you were once dumb enough to be on the wrong side. :-(

[boxster]

120. Morning kick.

The show must go on!

[democratreformed]

121. Oh yeah, he only ran so he could lose and pave the way for Hilary

in 2008. He's the Clintons' puppet.

[BootinUp]

122. Thanks Willy

ca·thar·sis ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-thärss)
n. pl. ca·thar·ses (-sz)


3. A release of emotional tension, as after an overwhelming experience, that restores or refreshes the spirit.

[mikehiggins]

123. Shelton. A text book classic smear job that only later, when his

ties to Edwards were uncovered, was revealed as being actually part of the campaign, not just a side issue.

I really was disgusted with how little coverage Shelton got when he admitted to the Hague authorities that the "integrity and character" smear was actually just politics. If you didn't read DU or the Clark websites/newsgroups you'd never know that Shelton said that at all.

Absolutely first class work at smearing a candidate, aided and abetted by the national media. Classic.

[Adelante]

127. So right, Mike

That was the one that would not go away, for real.

[Leilani]

162. That one started when he entered

& lasted until he dropped out. He spent WEEKS trying to rebut that, & it is probably the #1 thing responsible for his failed campaign.

Because people didn't really know him, & that was the first thing they heard. He never recovered from that.

[robbedvoter]

133. Stormin Norman went on Capitol Gang to retract his support for Shelton

only hours after the hague prosecutor asked Shelton is he wanted to testify for Milosevic and he answered " it was just politics"
Edwards, Mr Positive, never budged.

[Jai4WKC08]

152. Shelton was by far the worst

'Course, that's the one I always took personally. Military officers just don't do things like that. Well, obviously they do. But they're not supposed to. Which is why Clark never really went on the offense the way he could have. I know for a fact he had people who could have taken Shelton down a notch.

What really pisses me off was the way it morphed into a whole meme about how no one in the military liked or respected him. Some guy who thought he was gonna be SOUTHCOM commander in chief, but Shallikashvilli put Clark in instead, bad-mouthed him too (it was all a Clinton-Clark plot of course--that must be basis of Novak's "Clinton got him his 4th star--not that Novak needs a basis for anything he says), And a handful of anonymous criticisms, some by guys who admitted to not even knowing him, but had heard....

Then there was the crap in Newsweek about Colin Powell calling him "Lt Colonel," on purpose to belittle him. When Judy Woof-woof asked Powell, FIVE times, saying each time, but this is what you said--what did you REALLY mean? Powell denied ever saying anything of the sort (gee, ya think Newsweek could have asked him first?) and said "I've known Wes Clark for 20 years and he's one of the most gifted officers I know." (or something like that) Was THAT remark ever repeated?

There were SO many military people, of all ranks, who came out and said what a great commander he was, how they respected him, how he treated them with respect, and helped their careers, or their personal growth, took care of their families, and on and on and on, but that never made it into the major media.

If Clark were a different man, he'd have made more milage out of it. But I guess that would have made him a politician.

[Tim_in_HK]

130. Clark's got a screw loose . . .

He GUARANTEED there would not be another terrorist attack in the US.

[Adelante]

131. I don't know why I look on the bright side this morning

But I was downstairs drinking coffee and thinking about this thread. It was through the DU :tinfoilhat: interchange that we came together into battle-hardened troops for Wes. We had to fight so hard every damned day. We had to work so hard every damned day. We had to do our own rapid response research to counter the RW talking points thrown at us in every other thread by Democrats! We had to learn how to express our positions tightly and clearly and back up our points. We had to identify ourselves for our candidate and with his program and to each other. I clearly remember the first time Tom Rinaldo appeared on my radar screen - I was, like, whoah, that's how we do this! I remember WillyBrandt's Wes Clark Word of the Day. Incap's graphics for Clark, the red convertible, the cheerleader. FrenchieCat and RobbedVoter, intrepid in their links for Clark. Donna Z's reasoned analysis for Clark. Jmaier's gently lethal prods for Clark. I'm going to stop naming names or I'd be at this all day, but you're all in there, in my heart and mind. But the reason, the reason for us still being who we are for Clark, is the elegance with which we can carry our scars and laugh at the knives. I guess, in part, we can thank the Deanies and their leftie cohorts who put us through the paces at a time we needed to become who we are now: Wes Clark Democrats.

Bless 'em all :toast:

[robbedvoter]

174. You almost brought me to tears here - and not cuz I am mentioned either

You really hit on something.
I am a Wes Clark democrat - this remains my political identity regardless of who I am. A lot of self questioning came out of these ferocious attacks - mostly about my belonging in the same party with these people.
The entire "you are not democrat for us" thing got to me (I only became one after the coup). Jane Shaheen's press conference - then her voting for Nixon coming out...
And after all that he is put through, this man wants to help this decayed, dying, snotty party - remind it of what it was supposed to be about - oh, well, I had to stay. But I am not a democrat like everyone else. Notin that I carry a grudge (I do, for now , but it does not define me), but I can see Clark's vision for this party - and I am willing to put in the work for it.
And I know that everyone on this thread distilled the same experiences and matured in an idealistic but effective fighter for the truth, democratic ideals.
We'll work for this election, but this is only a step in the big plan.
So, we'll stick together, I guess

We'll follow the old man wherever he wants to go
As long as he wants to go opposite to the foe

[robbedvoter]

132. I know! I know! beefcake pic - posted by campaign operatives as propaganda

And dean is a good looking guy too, so stop saying that! And: "you are disgusting - picking your POTUS by swimsuit competition"

beyond that, I am a Clark democrat - because Clark wouldn't let me quit the party in protest over the way they treated him.
And I an damn proud to be associated with all of you guys - stick together - we are up to bigger stuff than just a campaign, and our man shall lead

We'll follow the old man wherever he wants to go
As long as he wants to go opposite to the foe

http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups/UnitedForClark

[Adelante]

134. My God, you're a witch!

You popped up just as I was thinking about your old avatar!! :7

[robbedvoter]

137. Never doubt it for a minute! :-)

How can I miss the party?:grouphug:

[Tim_in_HK]

135. Geez, how could we forget . . .

In Clark's tesitmony to Congress in Sept 2002, he was clearly for the war. Even Drudge agrees with that! Why don't his supporters see his pandering and flip-flopping for what it is?

[BootinUp]

139. I guess because

that is related to the infamous plane ride discussion and IWR vote question. Of all the shit on this thread, that is one to forget. The f'in day he announced! :beer:

[Donna Zen]

143. But...but...but

Clark was never against the war until he saw that Dean was winning. It was then that the Clintons made Clark become the anti-Dean.

[Adelante]

144. So, it was the Clintons

who made Clark against the war! Now I get it. :)

[robbedvoter]

136. NY Daily news TODAY calls him wacko and bad campaigner

in their VP article entitled: "Edwards in Weep end of Kerry's search pool"
NYT OTOH, following our letters, decides to return the 3rd place in new Hampshire to Clark after all....(they gave it to Shelton's buddy yesterday)

'An article yesterday about <alt-code idsrc="nyt-per-pol" value="Edwards, John">John Edwards's decision to withdraw from the Democratic presidential campaign misstated his finish in the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 27. He placed fourth, not third.
(Third, like second in hawai shall remain nameless)

[robbedvoter]

141. Willie, you had the funniest thread on the subject at the time:

"Why I will not support Clark"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=386560

[Adelante]

142. Wow, one I missed!!

This was so great, Willy.

"Clark manages to make jelly out of the minds of two strangely allied groups: (1) Fox News commentators; and (2) the less rational DU posters.

From whence came this alliance of the knuckleheads?"

:bounce:

[Donna Zen]

145. Experience

The only experience Clark has is killing people. He's never been elected to annnnnything and knows nothing about domestic policy or how government works. What happens when he finds out that people just don't take orders?

[BootinUp]

146. The taking orders thing

IIRC, this could also be used in an entirely different attack as well:

He (Clark) was just taking orders from the Clintons/DLC/DNC.

[Scoopie]

147. My favorite

Was that he was connected to al-Qaeda because there were operatives of that terrorist organization operating in Kosovo when he was there!
I mean, talk about stttttttttrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeetches!
:)

[Auntie Bush]

150. He wasn't a team player!

He doesn't know how to compromise.
He can't take orders.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's how he got to be a 4 star General ...loaded down with medals and awards from many countries around the world.

I know we're all having fun here but if I had morning sickness...I'd :puke:

I just can't believe fellow Americans did this to him. I feel sick!
so I think I'll go make another donation and cheer myself up.

[Tom Rinaldo]

151. His air conditioned office

That Clark got to stay so cushy and cool in rather than dirty his hands in a place like Bosnia. No perfumed prince like Clark would have retrieved a friend's wedding ring to bring back to his wife from out of an exploding, white hot armored vehicle under fire.

[Adelante]

153. Okay, we all had our fun

Now let's pay up. The Wes Debt is being woefully neglected!

Transaction was successful.
Transaction amount: $50.00
Transaction id: 31424

Here:

https://secure.clark04.com/

Then here:

http://www.wesclarkdemocrats.com/wes_donate.asp

GO WES!!

:bounce:

[BootinUp]

154. slave driver

:evilgrin:

Transaction was successful.
Transaction amount: $50.00
Transaction id: 31425
You will soon receive an email at xxxxxx confirming your contribution.

[Adelante]

155. I love you I love you I love you

:loveya:

[BootinUp]

156. garsh, your embarrassing me!

:loveya:

:beer:

[jumptheshadow]

163. You know the crazy post that I liked?

Remember when Wes said, "If you like assault weapons join the military, we have them there?"

And then somebody drew an analogy between that statement and something one of the Nazi leaders had said?

[democratreformed]

164. Here's on I just remembered: He attended the World Economic Forum

And, while he was there, he spoke about the impending Iraq war! Never mind that he was attending a meeting on that topic - the fact that he talked about it proves that he's a Neocon. Never mind that Clinton and other attended the conference - it was SECRET OIL MEETING where people met to discuss taking over the world.

[Adelante]

165. OMG

That was one of the best and I had completely forgotten. :7

It's like when they were quoting stuff he had written about war, how shocking - duh, they were books about war, he is an army general and a military analyst. :crazy:

[Donna Zen]

166. Not the last word

but who needs republicans when you've got Democrats who have done the work for them? Eh?

Contributions: I did this week, but it looks like I will doing it again soon. I'll be sure and post at Wesclarkdems.

Oh..oh...help me here. What did they call him instead of Clark?

Cluck...what was it. Skinner made them stop, and now I can't remember. Damn.

The General's in Florida raising money for Kerry tonight. And Kansas tomorrow...raising money for Kerry.

Mission...mission...mission

[Auntie Bush]

167. He wore a Black Cape and his wife drove a Mercedes!

Those were one of the very firsts...before he was running.

[Adelante]

169. Wes Clark is a Coke Fiend!!

wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money
wes needs money

go here

https://secure.clark04.com /

go here

http://www.wesclarkdemocrats.com/wes_donate.asp

GO WES!! GO CLARKIES

[Adelante]

172. If you reach this post

Please give this thread a kick while I sleep.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=435077&mesg_id=435077

Thanks. :D

[Crunchy Frog]

176. I remember when it all really started

I've only been registered here since October, but I had been lurking on this site since last March around the time the war started. I learned about the different candidates from reading this board and started out as a Dean supporter. However, Dean never really resonated or connected with me.

Then I started reading about the Draft movement on here. I was intrigued, and increasingly convinced that Clark would give us by far the best shot at defeating Shrub.

I was really sceptical that he would enter, but I began to fervently hope that he would, and started thinking of myself as a provisional Dean supporter.

Then Clark finally entered and I remember DU being hit with a monumental shitstorm of attacks against him of a nature that I wouldn't even have believed possible from my previous aquaintance with this site. Since I knew very little about him at the time, I had to spend a couple of weeks wading through the crap to try to learn the real facts about him before I could really consider myself a supporter. I seem to recall that the attacks were so massive and so vile that they were the impetus for the first imposition of new rules.

Supporters of a certain other candidate have whined repeatedly about how they and their candidate have been attacked with such unrelenting cruelty, and how everyone else started it. They only started behaving badly in response to attacks on them. Well, that's definitely not how I remember it, as it was mostly supporters of that particular candidate who began with the shit slinging, and never let up. Other people just started defending themselves and their candidate, and these people suddenly became innocent victims of unfair attacks.

That's how I remember the early days of Clark's candidacy around here.

That's my ramble for the evening.

[AnnitaR]

180. OMG!! Best post I've read all night!

Thank you!

I was just over on another thread and was amazed to see certain supporters complaining that they were the victims of the most abuse around here. Some are saying that because of the way they were treated here is why they are still so bitter. They are acting like they are the only group that got put through the wringer here. Give me a break!

It was a lot of those same supporters who threw the most shit at us Clark supporters. Esp. those of us that had just joined DU. When their candidate was riding high they slung shit at Clark & us Clarkies for all it was worth.

The thing is we all suffered through a lot of stuff here on this forum. However, don't try to convince me that only one candidate's supporters suffered the most. It's not true. Esp. when that group threw more than their fair share of the shit around here!

[BootinUp]

181. In case y'all missed it: New Evidence has been uncovered

that proves beyond a preponderance of the internet evidence, that Clark has used Mind Control Techniques on all of us Clarkies. That is why your bank account is mysteriously low on funds!


Now to review the internet evidence:
Original Mind Control evidence:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367243

Some would and DID say this was just a conspiracy theory, and suggested the purveyors of this tripe were "around the bend", loons, or as Will Pitt cleverly suggested that they were smelly boot smokers see here for that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=367243#367364

But! there is now additional internet evidence, that Clark has mastered some mind control techniques, thats right, the ability NOT TO BLINK! See here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=430558&mesg_id=435783&page=

I didn't realize the weightyness of this internet evidence until this morning!

In order to replenish your bank accounts, avoid looking at any pictures of Wesley Clark, especially video clips! No damn audio either! He's clever and he has a way of putting suggestions into our minds. That is all, over and out, and put that in your boot and smoke it Will Pitt! ;)

[Adelante]

182. Thanks so much, Jim4

I'll be real careful, I will. :scared:

[wellstone dem]

183. I could never vote for a general because I don't trust them

and besides other generals don't like him.


My favorite in person discussion was with a Kucinich person (and by the way I voted for Kucinich) who said, "How can you support him, he voted Republican." I replied, "His last republican vote was 16 years ago." She replied, "Oh, never mind that then."

[Auntie Bush]

184. When I first told my favorite liberal cousin that I wanted

General Clark on the ticket, he replied with a very astonished statement, "BUT HE'S A GENERAL!!!!" I told him to check out his site.
I never did convince him Clark wasn't a war monger and an arrogant hated General. Just a couple days ago he sent me an article and suggested I hadn't done enough research on the General and was just listening to his propaganda. The article looked like something Carl Rove had written himself. I think it included most the statements written on this thread. Of course he sent his condolences. He's NOT my favorite cousin anymore!

Man,I get angry just thinking about all the crap they flung a this good, honorable, compassionate, intelligent, kind, loving, patriotic, self sacrificing, human being. What's the matter with people?

[BootinUp]

185. they didn't look into his eyes - like you

;)