DNC is now fundraising for Kerry

[hellhathnofury]

I get home from my Dean meetup and to my astonishment I have this in my email box. I didn't know we had nominated him yet. I'd imagine Dennis and Al have something to say about this.

The Democratic National Committee is sending the following special message on behalf of John Kerry, the next President of the United States.

A message from John Kerry: Let's work together and win


Dear George W. Cuba-Gooding Jr.,

I know how much you have done to help our Party and its candidates and I am writing to tell you that I need you by my side every step of this campaign.

Yesterday, our campaign won impressive victories, winning 9 of 10 states and a sweeping majority of the delegates at stake on the biggest day of our campaign.

This morning, George W. Bush launched his $150 million campaign to try to set the terms of the debate for the general election. The ads he runs will attempt to distract from the miserable record he has built, and the hardships his one-sided, misguided policies have caused the American people.

We have no opportunity to savor yesterday's victories. We must act quickly to respond to tomorrow's challenges.

https://www.democrats.org/support/kerry/contribute.html

Will we let the Bush campaign define this election, distorting his record and mine in the process? Or will we carry the momentum of yesterday's enormous victory forward with energy and enthusiasm? You and I both know the answer. Together, we have to fight for every vote and answer every challenge.

Let's roll up our sleeves and go to work. I am confident that, working side by side, we can take on any challenge and win.

https://www.democrats.org/support/kerry/contribute.html

Warm regards,

John Kerry

PS: To win, I must have the support of every Democrat. Please forward or print this message and give it to all your friends and family. The real battle starts now and I must have your help to win.


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[Mick Knox]

1. As well they should be..

I believe law (or rules?) prevents them from spending until declaring nominee ... which will be Mar 10 me things.. based on Terry comments..

[hellhathnofury]

2. They couldn't have waited a few days.

I mean there are still real candidates in the race. It's disrespectful to DK and Al.

[Dookus]

4. And DK and Al are disrespectful of the Democratic Party

by their stubborn vanity.

[hellhathnofury]

6. They weren't even given a chance to drop.

It was to fast, it seems like they had the Kerry bandwagon set in motion while even Edwards was still in it.

[ShaneGR]

79. Hey cynical, they aren't dropping

Should we wait until the convention to start raising money now?

[meti57b]

74. agreed. Getting bush out of office is way more important than ....

worrying about the sensibilities of 1% and 2% candidates, DK and AL.

[jsw_81]

70. There is only one real candidate left in the race

[Blue_Roses]

72. You can't wait

when Bush is running ads in 17 states today, not to mention the barrage of attack ads he will be hosting next.

As far as Al and Dennis, with all due respect, they don't have a chance...they are now running for the primary reason of getting their message out. Sharpton even admitted it the other night.

[R3dD0g]

76. To think that DK & Al are viable candidates

is to be lost in some never land fantasy.

The primary is over. DK & Al and all the rest didn't win.

[Snivi Yllom]

82. you think the DNC gives a rat's ass about DK or AS?

Cuz they don't. It's Kerry time 110% and get on board or get the hell out of the way.

[Dookus]

3. So what should they do?

NEVER fundraise until the convention because two guys with NO hope of getting the nomination like the free platform and won't get out?

That would be silly.

[hellhathnofury]

5. Wait 2-3 days.

Give DK or Al the chance to drop.

It's only the day after Super Tuesday for chrissakes.

If they had waited to the weekend I would be totally fine with it.

[ShaneGR]

10. In 2-3 days they will raise millions

EVERY day that the DNC is NOT raising money is WASTED time. We are already 150 million behind. To hell with their feelings, if they want to stay in that is fine, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be raising money to get rid of Bush.

[hellhathnofury]

11. Kerry was getting dough anyways.

They can raise money for the nominee anyways. They don't have to specify Kerry just yet.

"As the primary is drawing to close it's time to start gathering for the nominee..."

[ShaneGR]

14. I don't know if you noticed, but Kerry is the nominee

And it is time. Sorry you don't see that, but it's reality.

[hellhathnofury]

17. I still say it's just rude.

What should I expect from the DLC approved candidate anyways.

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[hellhathnofury]

21. I'm holding my tongue.

That's low.

:grr:

[ShaneGR]

22. Hey, your the one who says we shouldn't raise money to beat him

Reality.

[hellhathnofury]

24. I'm the one advocating respect for DEMOCRATS!

Kerry is not the nominee yet and I'll say whatever I damn well please.

[Dookus]

31. Raising money

on the heels of Kerry's enormous victories is NOT disrespectful to anyone.

There's no indication that DK or AS will EVER drop out. There's no reason to wait any longer for them to do so.

THEY are being infinitely more disrespectful of the party than any email from the DNC could ever be.

[hellhathnofury]

33. Give it a day.

Al is running out of money and isn't that crazy. DK should have been given the chance.

It's not an unusual thing really.

[Dookus]

37. Why

do you get to set the arbitrary rules on this?

Why a day? Why not a week?

What's wrong with 12 hours, like they got? A smart guy like John Edwards knew enough to drop out. Why not DK and AS?

Sorry, I don't believe the party should be held hostage by two vanity candidates. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what the DNC did.

They were taking advantage of the news coverage and excitement about Kerry. You strike while the iron is hot.

If DK and AS want to give the party a few million dollars in exchange for a "respectful period of time" let them. Until they do, though, the party has to do what it has to do - raise money.

[hellhathnofury]

39. Hah. 12 hours.

I doubt the DNC even asked them or notified them.

Pardon, my sense of fair play. Please go on with the coronation.

The party doesn't need to crown Kerry to get money, that's the truth.

[Dookus]

43. The DNC

has no need to notify DK or AS before they send out a fundraising solicitation.

There's nothing unfair about this. Kerry won almost every primary to date. DK and AS have won zero. Of course his name will be used in fundraising solicitations.

This issue is one you simply invented out of whole cloth. There's nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

[hellhathnofury]

48. Yeah there is.

Kerry is not the nominee yet, hell the ashes haven't even settled.

It's March 3rd, the day after Super Tuesday. Not even April.

[Dookus]

55. So what?

It's mathematically impossible for DK or AS to win the nomination.

The party has no obligation to wait for them to drop out before fundraising.

[Cheswick2.0]

66. so go donate to Kerry, you have no control over my pocketbook

Jeesh, do you really think bully tactics are going to bring people to Kerry? Maybe you can start a PAC with that tactic in mind. Yup that's the ticket.

[molly]

68. Strike while the iron is hot is absolutely correct

I really wonder how much longer DK and AS will remain in the "race"? The message they are sending to me is that they are NOT UNITERS - they are dividers. How about some maturity and class?

[arcos]

53. not true... Sharpton is considering it...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/elec04.prez.sharpton/index.html

"NEW YORK (CNN) -- Civil rights activist the Rev. Al Sharpton said late Tuesday that he would decide in the next day or so, but certainly before next Tuesday, whether to remain in the presidential primary race. "

[dsc]

65. that is baldly false

Sharpton is making an announcement today as to his intentions, and DK got nominated for Congress on Tuesday and the rumors have been thick that he would drop after Ohio. I wouldn't be surprised if both candidates are out by the weekend.

[Old and In the Way]

58. Sorry, no sale - Dookus is right.

We can't wait for Dennis and Al to decide when it's time for them to leave. Hell, they could stay in all the way to the convention. The Party made the right decision as soon as the only serious contender left, John Edwards, decided to suspend his campaign.

You are advocating that we not raise money for the candidate who is assured of the nomination. It's obvious that you dislike Kerry, perhaps Democrats in general, since more than 50% are clearly in Kerry's camp based on the results to date.

Too bad for you. But is you must cry, please use a teacup.

[Cheswick2.0]

67. Not true

no one is advocating not raising money for Kerry. Don't twist the original post that way.

BTW I got the same e-mail and I will not be sending money. I am donating to local and state races and working for a statewide campaign. With all the new people I plan to bring to the polls Kerry should be in good shape if he does something besides ask for their money. It is his job to give people a reason to support him.

[Old and In the Way]

81. But that was the whole point of his thread, Cheswick.

The DNC should not be sending fundraising letters on Kerry's behalf now.

Of course, as the thread progresses, he starts qualifying his statement.

I'm OK with you not wanting to contribute $....but certainly, I think it makes total sense for the DNC to support the candidate that is clearly going to be our nominee now. The RNC knows this and they've started hammering Kerry already. Please don't kneecap our candidate....if this was Dean in Kerry's place, I'd be making exactly the same statements on his behalf.

[MercutioATC]

29. Kerry is NOT the nominee. He very well MAY be in the near future,

but he's NOT at this time.

[Old and In the Way]

59. Kerry WILL be the nominee and that is a FACT.

Why are YOU suggesting the Party handicap itself in the effort to raise money? Perhaps YOU don't have the best interests of the Party winning in November.


See, I know how to use the CAP key for emphasis, too!

[MercutioATC]

69. A little remedial English for you:

Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: fact
Pronunciation: 'fakt
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere
1 : a thing done: as a obsolete : FEAT b : CRIME <accessory after the fact> c archaic : ACTION
2 archaic : PERFORMANCE, DOING
3 : the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a : something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality
- in fact : in truth

Until Kerry has mathematically eliminated all of his opponents, his nomination is not a "fact". You're simply wrong in saying so.

I'll concede that anybody else's chances of gaining the nomination are extremely slim, but you're incorrect in saying that the idea that he will be the nominee is a "fact".

[Old and In the Way]

80. 5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality

yes, I think the objective reality is Kerry will be the Democratic nominee.....you want to dispute that?

[MercutioATC]

97. Yes, "objective reality" is NOT a prediction.

Merriam-Webster again:


Main Entry: 1ob·jec·tive
Pronunciation: &b-'jek-tiv, äb-
Function: adjective
1 a : relating to or existing as an object of thought without consideration of independent existence -- used chiefly in medieval philosophy b : of, relating to, or being an object , phenomenon, or condition in the realm of sensible experience independent of individual thought and perceptible by all observers : having reality independent of the mind <objective reality> <our reveries... are significantly and repeatedly shaped by our transactions with the objective world -- Marvin Reznikoff> -- compare SUBJECTIVE 3a c of a symptom of disease : perceptible to persons other than the affected individual -- compare SUBJECTIVE 4c d : involving or deriving from sense perception or experience with actual objects , conditions, or phenomena <objective awareness> <objective data>
2 : relating to, characteristic of, or constituting the case of words that follow prepositions or transitive verbs
3 a : expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations <objective art> <an objective history of the war> <an objective judgment> b of a test : limited to choices of fixed alternatives and reducing subjective factors to a minimum
synonym see MATERIAL, FAIR
- ob·jec·tive·ly adverb
- ob·jec·tive·ness noun
- ob·jec·tiv·i·ty /"äb-"jek-'ti-v&-tE, &b-/ noun

3a is the applicable definition. "Subjective reality" would fit your meaning, but "objective" doesn't.

The facts are that a candidate must have a certain number of delegates to win and Kerry does not have those delegates. Anything else is opinion...possibly well-reasoned opinion, but opinion nonetheless.

[aldian159]

87. Sharpton and DK can't win

it is not possible.

Doesn't that qualify as "Until Kerry has mathematically eliminated all of his opponents?"

[MercutioATC]

98. It's NOT impossible, just highly unlikely...here's why:

If Kerry fails to secure enough delegates by the convention, we have a brokered convention. The only Kerry could fail to have enough votes is if the rest of the candidates combined had a higher delegate count. The candidates could then ask their delegates to all vote for one of them (Kucinich, for example). If the delegates did so, Kucinich would have more delegates than Kerry and would win the nomination.

C'mon, this isn't rocket science, folks...

[MoonRiver]

100. And, gee, Kerry could drop dead before the convention,

and have to be replaced on the ticket. So maybe the DNC should wait until convention night to start fundraising, just in case. :eyes:

[MercutioATC]

101. No, but we SHOULD abide by the process we use to select a nominee.

When and if Kerry has the delegates, he's the nominee...not before. Again, why is this such an issue for some people? All I'm suggesting is that we let the primary run its course.

[Kathleen04]

Well..

They have showed no real intention of dropping..the Reverend Al is still thinking things over, he may. But I think Kucinich is in it for the long haul...a statement he put out today indicated that.

The party has never treated them equally..I really don't expect them to start now when Kerry has 1557 delegates and DK n' Sharpton have 42 delegates *combined*. I think they should stay in the race as long as they want to but I don't expect the DNC to sit around twiddling their thumbs.

[hellhathnofury]

18. They still let them in the debates when they had no chance.

[Old and In the Way]

60. Didn't cost money to do that.

No one is saying that Al and Dennis drop out. But you are suggesting that we limit fundraising at a timen whe the Republicans are gonna start Hammering Kerry with ads from a $100MM+ warchest.

I'm sure, though, the RNC and Ed Gillespie support your position.

[ShaneGR]

7. It is MATHEMATICALLY impossible for DK or Sharpton to win

You would expect the effort to defeat Bush to just STOP because DK and Al Sharpton want to say they are real candidates?

[hellhathnofury]

9. Give them to Thursday at least.

It's really rude to DK, who I remind you is still a duly elected Democratic congressman.

[ShaneGR]

13. It's not the DNC's fault DK has chosen to stay in

And it is not up to DK, or his supporters, to decide when it is ok for the DNC to raise money for the Nominee of the Democratic Party for the Presidency of the United States. If DK had won a primary, had finished with better than 10% in his own home state, or anything that would have lended real credence to a pause in the DNC's fundraising then maybe you might have a case.

[hellhathnofury]

20. Give the guy a chance to drop out.

They could have put pressure on him to do it. I doubt they did though because after all we can ignore part of the base and still win, 2000 taught us nothing.

[VolcanoJen]

8. Good for the DNC!!!

Or, would you prefer that we sit on our hands, while Bush blankets America with his phatty-media buy with ads proclaiming "Hey, It's Not Our Fault! Vote Bush/Cheney!"

It's time for Dennis and Al to back out. Honestly. And thank the heavens for Clark, Dean and Edwards, who read the writing on the wall and knew it was time to step aside.

Kerry is the Nominee-Apparent. The primary campaign is over.

[Mick Knox]

12. The Game Began tonight!

In case you didnt watch any news.. which was 50% punditry (ie free air time) for * ads...

Its time to go.. DK and Al are mathematically eliminated.

No dicking the dog.. important stuff to do.

[hellhathnofury]

15. Heh....I gave up on the TV a long time ago.

Plus I was at meetup.

And a week ago everyone was terrified of a Nader run....I wonder who's supporters were backing DK.

You guys better hope they don't get really pissed off about it.

[ShaneGR]

16. OMG

I'm terrified. Not. Empty threats don't garner support.

[Mick Knox]

23. I agree.. nader very unimpressive this year..

still.. bad year to be goofing around.. and he should know this.. he DOES know this.

[Dookus]

26. LOL...

Kucinich supporters won't vote for Kerry because the DNC is raising funds for Kerry but not waiting "a reasonable" amount of time for him to drop out?

He's had fucking MONTHS to drop out. How much longer are we supposed to wait?

[hellhathnofury]

27. 1 whole day.

It's a reasonable request.

[Dookus]

28. Nonsense

it's a totally arbitrary nicety invented by you.

Just because DK and AS won't face reality doesn't mean the party should be hamstrung by it.

Riding the wave of Kerry's overwhelming victories is perfectly normal, and in fact, it would be remiss for them NOT to do it today.

You're making up a slight that doesn't exist.

[hellhathnofury]

30. They should be given the chance to face reality without...

having it shoved down their throats. I'm with Dean and I'm offended by it.

Courtesy has died.

[Dookus]

32. bullshit

they've had months to face reality. Their chances at securing the nomination are the same today as they were on Monday. Nil.

[hellhathnofury]

35. There's more to life than the nomination.

They think they've got a message.

It's still rude beyond all get out.

[Dookus]

38. You seem to be the only one who thinks so

Sorry, but you're just wrong. The party would be remiss NOT to take advantage of this unique fundraising opportunity.

DK and AS are big boys - they know the game. I guarantee you neither of them is offended. Only you are.

[hellhathnofury]

42. Can you blame me for believing in..

RESPECT.

They are big boys but that doesn't excuse the fact that Kerry isn't the nominee and DK and AS aren't LaRouche. It's rude and I'm amazed the DKers aren't all over this thread. Hell, when Dean forgot to give them props in his own propaganda there were at least 10 threads.

[Dookus]

44. There's nothing

disrespectful about sending a fundraising email.

You are the only one who thinks so. You are mistaken.

[hellhathnofury]

51. I didn't know the party had coronations.

He doesn't have the delegates even needed to win on the first ballot. He's not the nominee.

[Dookus]

56. he WILL be the nominee

nobody else has a chance. Your insistence otherwise is just petulant.

[Old and In the Way]

62. Yes, it happens every 4 years.

This must be your first election voting?

[Old and In the Way]

61. They had reality shoved down their throats since Iowa.

Maybe they like the reality. And I haven't seen any statements from Al or Dennis complaining....have you? Maybe they understand and agree with the DNC fundraising strategy.

Perhaps it just you who doesn't want to see people funding Kerry's campaign.

[arcos]

57. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/elec04.prez.sharpton/index.html

[Mick Knox]

34. Why SHOULD the party wait?

silently on the side lines while DK and Al prance around playing games.

They are totally finished..

now if they wanna talk and get votes fine... they can talk at the convention.. not that the candidate wont do what he wants to do about his platform.. but why not.. Al Sharptons great for some good stuff any way... DK can talk..

But the party should not wait to appease guys who are are playing games.

They are out.

Out.

I'm an Umpire. OUT!

Where youre out youre out.

I understand .. yeah coach.. blah blah blah...
Thats the call.
Lets play ball coach..

[hellhathnofury]

36. Hah. Cute.

It'd still be a show of respect.

I hope DK endorses Nader just so you'll see that you can't step all over people. He's been treated like shit since the beginning.

[Dookus]

40. that would be fun

trying to fuck over your own party because you didn't think they waited a "decent" amount of time for you to finish your vanity candidacy before raising money.

I guarantee you DK is not offended by this. Only you are.

[hellhathnofury]

45. Well that may be...

but I'm not going to back down the Kerry snowball yet. I'm still a Democrat and I still get to say my piece. If this was Dean I'd be cursing Kerry right now. I'm not happy with this one bit. It is disrespectful.


Go Nader!

[Dookus]

46. lol

This is politics, not a debutante ball. Butch up.

[hellhathnofury]

50. The sad thing is that if Dean was in Kerry's position....

I'll say my piece until the convention. Party bylaws my friend. He's not the nominee.

[hellhathnofury]

54. I'm out.

Free Speech till hell freezes over.

[Mick Knox]

41. Ur One Cynical SOB!

:)

[hellhathnofury]

47. It's an old name.

And I want to keep my post count so I don't get called a Republican as much by the likes above.

:)

[Mick Knox]

49. :) Understood.. 6 more and i'm 1/2 way to magic number

WHOOO HOOO

[hellhathnofury]

52. Become a lounge lizard you'll be there in no time.

Or just stand your ground, like above.

[Name removed]

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[Doomsayer13]

25. we can't waste a second

RoveCo has already unveild his new line of pro-bush propaganda, and the DNC needs all the help it can get fighting them. We shouldn't stall a rapid response for the sake of candidates who persist despite the fact that it is mathematically impossible for either of them to win the primary.

[WitchWay]

64. This is strange

It sounds like an endorsement of a candidate before the nomination process is over. That does not sound okay to me. This sounds like a potential violation of the nomination process.

I would send this to the other candidate who are still in the race, such as dennis kucinich or al sharpton. This is jumping the gun, since the other candidates are still in the race. The convention has not occured, and the others have not dropped out.

John Kerry has other ways to raise money, and the process has not yet determined that he is the candidate.

At the bottom it says:

"Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, www.democrats.org . This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

But John Kerry has signed the letter? It doesn't make sense -- but I don't know anything about the law. I'd forward it to your candidate to see if they can make sense of it.

[diamondsoul]

75. I've already sent it to the Kucinich

people, and our Internet Outreach Coordinator already recieves the DNC mailings as do I.

By the way, I was at the Dean meetup last night too, and intend to go every month from now on. I don't know how things are shaping up in other places, but I got some interest among the local Dean folks for the Kucinich meetup tonight and they were extremely helpful in getting out the information for our local Progressive candidates which is where we'll have to focus our efforts in order to keep Kerry honest and give him a Congress he can work with.

I most assuredly resent the DNC and the posters in this thread telling me that the remaining votes don't matter! Excuse me, but it seems to me those elections are sort of part of the process and I don't appreciate them being written off before we've gotten to them!

[WitchWay]

88. thanks for the good work

Kucinich is still in the election, and I think he even has requested a debate with Kerry...so this really has bothered me.

I think that it is NOT okay for the DNC to be endorsing anyone with a primary still underway. I hope that Kucinich acts on this, because it is a means to disenfranchise his voters. Someone could take the post to mean that the primaries are not over, and that Kucinich and Sharpton are out of the primaries - which is just not true. There is a convention process, and not until then can there be a nominee. Kerry doesn't even have enough votes yet.

[union_maid]

71. Strike while the iron is hot

Super Tuesday is probably the last primary to get the attention of the public at large and that was more out curiosity to see if Edwards would contend in a few states and interest in that was probably mostly fueled by his late surge in WI. Hereafter, they're going to be a non-event as far as the American public is concerned. You don't wait until attention has turned back to American Idol to start the fundraising. AS and DK might or might not have been approached first. Edwards dropped immediately for his reasons. Either or both of them might stay in for their own. Bush is out there raising even more money. We can't afford to waste one minute getting the next phase of the campaign off the ground.

[WitchWay]

89. As for the next phase...

"We can't afford to waste one minute getting the next phase of the campaign off the ground."

The campaign is not in the next phase. Kerry CANNOT be the nominee until the convention. It's that simple. The DNC's campaign cannot be in the next phase, unless their antipathy towards the democratic process has led them to believe that this process is unnecessary, in which case we all need to be seriously concerned that these elections are, indeed, a complete sham.

[janx]

73. WHEN DID THEY MAIL IT?

I haven't even voted yet!

[diamondsoul]

77. Last night while the

Dean meetups were taking place. I didn't check my mail until this morning so just got it today.

[janx]

78. I'll be darned, D.S. I just checked my mail.

It was there.

[madfloridian]

83. Comment about money and Dean....from a Kerry campaign person.

I don't this was a good time to say this, with all the MoveOn people and DNC asking for money.
QUOTE: "But the Kerry campaign is not intimidated by Bush's war chest, said Kathy Roeder, his spokeswoman.

Referring to former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean's record-setting fund-raising among Democrats, she said, "The primary already shows that you can't buy an election." END QUOTE

http://www.cleveland.com/election/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1078407042270670.xml

Words best left unsaid? Hurtful and divisive.

[BruinAlum]

84. Oh please be serious, will you? Kerry IS the nominee.

And I don't believe you are so concerned about what Al and Dennis have to say about it as you are about NOT accepting the fact that Kerry has WON 27 out of 30 primaries with any of the serious candidates all having dropped out now.

Bush has launched an all out attack starting TODAY against KERRY. Is the DNC supposed to sit back and do nothing now? NO! They'd damn well better do the job they are supposed to and start raising money NOW like they are SUPPOSED to.

This is WAR! There's work to do! And it takes $$$$$$$$$.

Sheesh!

[WitchWay]

90. Kerry is NOT the nominee

Kerry cannot be the nominee until the Convention. Technically, he is not the nominee. There is a process that involves a convention and it is not certain that Kerry has the nomination. There has been no convention.

[BruinAlum]

91. I feel sorry for you.

[MercutioATC]

102. Why, because WitchWay understands the process?

100% correct. Hell, he only has a little over half of the delegates he needs. He's the frontrunner but he's NOT the nominee.

[lurk_no_more]

85. Just sent them $100

And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[WilliamPitt]

86. Good

He's going to need every dime he can squeeze.

[hellhathnofury]

92. They've cut Kerry out of the new one. Hmmmm......

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[MercutioATC]

104. See, this is what the FIRST one should have said.

I sent them an e-mail saying that I wanted to unsubscribe if they didn't have enough respect for the process to wait for a nominee to be chosen before declaring a winner. Obviously quite a few others did, too.

[mitchum]

93. Good for them

time is precious

[MurikanDemocrat]

94. I'm astonished that you're astonished. I'm also astonished that

you'd think Al or Dennis would like to see Bush make mincemeat out of Kerry while the DNC sat on it's ass and didn't start any fundraising, KNOWING that Kerry is the presumptive nominee.

You don't SERIOUSLY think Al or Dennis have ANY chance of winning the nomination, do you? It's mathematically impossible! Even if they got 100% of every delegate that's left!

Now, c'mon. We's got work to do. Let's concentrate on getting Kerry elected in November. Al and Dennis won't get their feelings hurt. I promise.

[hellhathnofury]

95. Pardon my sense of politeness.

[MurikanDemocrat]

96. This is politics. There hasn't been anything polite about this primary

nor will there be anything polite about the Rove machine attack against Kerry that has already started this week. The fundraising needs to start YESTERDAY to be able to just keep up with the Rove attack machine, much less launch an offensive attack as well.

Forget about polite for the next 8 months. If you want polite, the DNC is being polite and not pointing out bluntly that Sharpton and Kucinich are not serious candidates and never have been. They both know this themselves and had other goals in mind as well, and there is nothing wrong with that. And let's face it, you weren't really concerned about their feelings or candidacies anyway, were you?

Now let's not be silly about this, and I'm trying to be polite about it.

[MercutioATC]

103. I'm afraid you're mistaken.

"You don't SERIOUSLY think Al or Dennis have ANY chance of winning the nomination, do you? It's mathematically impossible! Even if they got 100% of every delegate that's left!"

It's extremely unlikely, but hardly impossible. Here's how:

If Kerry fails to get enough delegates by the convention, we have a brokered convention. If all of the other candidates ask their delegates to vote for one particular candidate (yes, even Sharpton or Kucinich) and the delegates comply, that candidate will have more delegates than Kerry and will win the nomination.

It's unlikely, but you're throwing around words like "mathematically impossible" whis is simply untrue.

[MrSlayer]

99. Good, let's get that money pouring into the coffers ASAP.

No sense in waiting we need the cash NOW!