Why are we looking at Hillary's 80s, but not Obama's?

[BenDavid]

I wonder what Obama was doing in the eighties? His website says, "Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia. Later, he moved to New York, where he graduated from Columbia University in 1983." Whoa, can you run thru that period a little faster? What about the parts of Obama's past that we're not allowed to talk about? Is the past a "legit" way to attack Hillary but "off limits" for Obama?

Ask questions and one is labeled a "racist". Why is it that seeking answers is now somehow seen as "racial?"

[bidenista]

1. he was "present" in the 80s. what more do you need to know? nt

[thunder rising]

11. Hillary insists that sleeping with the governor and President is experience.

[bidenista]

14. wow. could you be MORE sexist? nt

[rodeodance]

24. Obama campers will do anything to win.

[rodeodance]

15. shows how hollow your mind is.

[niceypoo]

39. Hillary accomplished more in HS and College that you'll accomplish in your life

Obama supporters are one sliver above bigots now. Hate does that to a person.

[Carolina]

52. Thank You!

20 years as first lady of AK and US is part of her vaunted 35 years of experience

[DiamondJay]

26. yea, but after law school, he coulda cashed in

whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean, as his new TV spot says.

[msongs]

2. maybe he was a carpenter? nt

[graywarrior]

4. *snort*

[rodeodance]

22. now that would fit right in with the ObamaPopemania that is 'inspiring" so many.

[1corona4u]

29. AHAHAHAHAHAH hahahahahaha....

[1corona4u]

3. I'm still trying to figure out how a monkey is racist....

if you believe in evolution, we all came from some type of ape. Not just the blacks...



Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids.

[NYCGirl]

5. Here's more:

Barack Obama and his grandparents at Columbia University.

Obama knows the difficulty of transferring schools. He left Occidental College in Los Angeles after two years to attend Columbia University in New York City. His college activities at Columbia included Black Students Organization and anti-apartheid activities. Besides that, he says, “I spent a lot of time in the library. I didn’t socialize that much. I was like a monk.”

He majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. He received his B.A. degree in 1983, then worked for one year at Business International Corporation. In 1985, Barack Obama moved to Chicago to direct a non-profit project assisting local churches to organize job training programs. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988. In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review’s “first black president in its 104-year history.” He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.

Barack Obama has authored two bestselling books. The first, “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance”, was published after his graduation from law school and before entering politics. His second book, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream”, was published in October 2006, three weeks before the 2006 midterm election.

http://www.kansasprairie.net/kansasprairieblog/?p=7016

[never_get_over_it]

40. OH MY GOD

his grandparents look WHITE - I thought he was going to be the first BLACK President - hmmmmm

actually in this case it would be so much more appropriate to call him the first actual African American President since his father WAS African and his mother WAS American - or it would be more appropriate to call him the first bi-racial President

don't like the term African American, Irish American, Italian American blah blah blah can't we all just be Murkins....

but maybe that's just me....

[Armstead]

6. Hillary counts the 80's in her "35 years of experience"

So it is totally justified to look at what she was doing then.

Obama has written autobiographical books, and has acknowledged that he used drugs as a young man. Doesn;t seem like he's hiding anything.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. Growing up as a private school student from a fancy suburb in Hawaii doesn't fit the Fairy Tale.

Maybe if he slew dragons in Hawaii they might mention it.

[cali]

13. oooh, another ignorant person I'm happy to educate.

He cerainly did NOT grow up in fancy suburb, pookie. He grew up in a working class neighborhood. Are you really so ignorant that you think all people in Hawaii live in fancy suburbs? But no, cherie. And guess what, crumpet? He went to Punahao on a scholarship. One of my best friend's daughters did too. And she went on to Stanford. Good school, Punahao. Nice that Barack was smart enought to get a scholarship.

[MethuenProgressive]

16. What was his street adress? And yes, he went to private school.

Got a pic of his house?

[cali]

20. There was a pic of his neighborhood

posted here a week or so ago. I'm sure if you're that curious you can do a search for a pic of the house where he lived in Hawaii.

[1corona4u]

32. Yes, and here is part of an article about that 'school'

Mr. Obama’s grandparents enrolled him in the Punahou School, founded in 1841 by Congregational missionaries. It is among the largest private schools in the country.

Punahou, with its rolling green lawns, imposing lava rock buildings and chapel in the center of a lily pond, was not an insignificant choice.

While power is asserted and social relativity established in Los Angeles by the car you drive, and in New York by the college you attended, in Honolulu, those things often hinge on where you went to high school.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/17/us/politics/17hawaii.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1


Kind of odd, for a 'working class family', wouldn't you say?

[JeanGrey]

45. NO I wouldn't. Look how

Bill Clinton started out and ended up. What is it with this class warfare stuff?

[1corona4u]

23. They may not have live in a 'fancy suburb'

but the cost of living is way higher than it is here, and so is the cost of housing. A home you could buy in a 'working class neighborhood' there, would be in line with an upscale neighborhood here. Dollar wise.

So, since you seem to be the Obama encyclopedia, what exactly did Obama's grand parents do in Hawaii? What buiness was he in?

[cali]

27. here, read this if you're interested

His grandparents lived in an apt, by the way. His grandmother worked in a bank, eventually becoming a branch asst manager, I believe.

[1corona4u]

28. Link?

[cali]

30. sorry. here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070325obama-youth-story,0,5069625.story?page=1

[1corona4u]

34. So...

"Madelyn Dunham, a rising executive at the Bank of Hawaii during Obama's Punahou days, was more reserved but seemed to love having her grandson's friends over to play and hang out"

You made it sound like she was a bank teller or something, LOL...

[cali]

44. I believe she started out quite low

in the ranks and worked her way up. And you should have noted that neither his mother or his grandparents owned their own house. They were renters.

[1corona4u]

46. Doesn't matter...

[JeanGrey]

48. I started out as a file clerk and ended up a manager.

So what?

[hisownpetard]

55. Indeed.

[JeanGrey]

56. Yup.

[hisownpetard]

36. Gee, sounds to me like you're disappointed that he didn't live in a tenement in some slummy

ghetto, so you could feel superior.

Don't be bitter. It's so unattractive.

[jasmine621]

43. Bill Clinton did much the same. Grew up poor, became Rhodes scholar

Hillary came from a working class family and look what she has accomplished. I bet you any amount of money that the Clintons were far less wealthy entering the WH than any President and First Lady in our lifetime. And that would include the Obama's should he win.

[alteredstate]

33. Senator Obama won a scholarship to that private school.

But you already knew that, didn't you?

It's hard to respect someone who consistently posts lies and half-truths.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

8. She voted for the War

She has blood on her hands. I'm disgusted with those who think otherwise.

[rodeodance]

21. and I am disguested with narrow -minded folks who are so single issued focued that they can

not see the forest--other important issues are out there--take a peep.

[Carolina]

54. the war impacts every

issue because of now much of the treasury has been, and continues to be, squandered in Iraq!


Take your blinders off.

[Carolina]

53. Me too!

eom

[cali]

9. Here, information for the ignorant:

In the 80's Barack Obama was attending Columbia, working for a year for IBS and then as a community organizer in inner city Chicago. Subsequently he attended Harvard Law where he was editor of the Law Review. For you ignorant people, that's about as prestigious as it gets when it comes to law school. After graduating Magna Cum Laude- and for you ignorant people, that means with highest honors- he returned to Chicago and practiced civil rights law.

Hopefull, you're now just a wee bit less ignorant.

[librechik]

10. The oppo research is all done on Hillary--multi million dollar tax paid dig.

Obama Who?

[itsrobert]

12. He was getting inspired by Reagan

Probably doing some phone banking for him.

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

17. And Hillary was failing her bar exam...

but it doesn't matter does it?

[itsrobert]

18. Many fail their bar exams the first time around

If you want to be honest?

[HonestyIsAVirtue]

25. The smarter ones dont

If you want to be genuine.

[itsrobert]

31. So JFK Jr

was less smart? Took him three times. How about Mayor Daily or Jerry Brown? Many more.

[hisownpetard]

37. Yes! JFK was handsome and personable, but he was no scholar.

[rodeodance]

19. HA HA--good one

[annie1]

35. lol

[blm]

50. Nah - that was Bill Clinton. Reagan's WETDREAM: The era of big government is over

coming out of a Democratic president's mouth at his State of the Union speech.

THAT right there showed a Democratic president rolled over on his own party and ACCEPTED Reagan's philosophy of governance.

[karynnj]

38. Because that was part of her 35 years of experience

Those are the years she was First Lady in Arkansas - and were after some of the years in the 1970s, when she did excellent work for the the Children's Defense Fund. If mentioning what she did in the 1970s is valid, why leave out the 1980s,

We are looking at Obama in the 1980s - I think he graduated from Columbia in 1983. you may have heard that he spent 3 years as a community organizer in Chicago. In 1990 he went to law school.

It is obvious that the answer for why there is less scrutiny is their relative ages in the 1980s.

[blm]

41. dupe

.

[alteredstate]

42. Are you talking about Hillary's years as a "Goldwater Girl"? n/t

[blm]

49. Nah - - I'm focusing on the TIMEFRAME. The 80s saw lots of cheap IranContra cocaine

being dumped into inner cities and black communities - they were DELIBERATELY targeted by Poppy Bush's CIA drugrunning operations. Operations that were being run out of a Mena, Arkansas airport in the 80s.

Yep - if anything, the ONLY REAL scandal in the story is the SOURCE of the cheap cocaine - Poppy Bush and those who helped him in any way all those years the CIA was running this operation.

[blm]

47. Go back to a person's late teen and early college years? Really? GREAT!!!

I'll help you there.

Obama was probably sampling some of that cheap IranContra cocaine that was being dumped all over the country, just like many of us did.

Now - let's TRACK THAT COCAINE back to where and HOW it was being dumped and the specific TARGETS of the dumps - America's inner cities.

Looks to me that it WAS tracked back already and it went through Mena, Arkansas and was being orchestrated by Poppy Bush who had the cooperation of those running that airport - what the heck do you think the CIA drugrunning scandal was about?

Care to wonder about the rest of the details?

[Carolina]

51. Because she claims to have 35 years of

experience... though 12 were as First lady of Arkansas and 8 as US First Lady!