Is Nader helping Bush in order to boost his stock portfolio?

[IrateCitizen]

Poll question: Is Nader helping Bush in order to boost his stock portfolio?

We all know how the Wall St. bigwigs love Bush because he helps out the insiders. Since Nader is a corporate insider who masquerades as a corporate crusader, do you think that he is helping to throw the election to Bush for the purposes of boosting his stock portfolio and net worth?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

1. When's the last time Nader championed an environmental issue?

Can anyone remember?

http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

[peacetalksforall]

2. One of the reasons...

There may be other reasons also.

[NNadir]

3. He did this kind of thing early in his career.

He bought Ford stock before exposing the Corvair.

I think the Corvair was the last useful thing he did since then. He's been enormously corrupt since then. There was NO accounting for PIRGs, Public Citizen, etc. during his tenure.

He's a pig.

[CWebster]

4. A burdensome menance upon mankind may his type rot in hell

Ralph Nader Praises "Courage and Persistence" of Striking Southland Grocery Workers Criticizes corporate tactic of shifting health costs to workers as part of a domestic race to the bottom, February 16, 2004

Ralph Nader, Consumer Advocate, calls on Senators to Reject So Called "Compromise" Class Action Legislation Slated to hit the Senate Floor Next Week, January 20, 2004

Ralph Nader and 14 Civic Groups Call on Congressional Leadership to Make Voting Records Available to Public Via Internet, December 30, 2003

Ralph Nader letter to Senator Ted Stevens, November 10, 2003

Ralph Nader letter to Arnold Schwarzenegger , October 3, 2003

Nader Calls On President To State Where He Stands On Texas Republican Party Demands, October 2, 2003

Ralph Nader Urges House-Senate Conference Committee to Remove Harmful MTBE Provision From The Energy Bill (HR6), September 29, 2003

Ralph Nader Letter to Warren Buffett , September 24, 2003

Estimated Tax Savings of Bush Cabinet Under the New Tax Law
September 4, 2003

Ralph Nader Letter to Senator Bill Frist, July 9, 2003

Ralph Nader Letter to FCC Inspector General - H. Walker Feaster III,
May 29, 2003

Statement by Ralph Nader regarding Letters from Civics Groups to Pres. Bush,
March 10, 2003

Journalists Criticize Iraq/War Media Coverage,
March 4, 2003

Statement by Ralph Nader about Oil and the War Against Iraq
February 4, 2003

Broad Coalition Warns of Big Brother in Today's NY Times, January 17, 2003 - U.S. Newswire

Statement by Ralph Nader on the occasion of President George W. Bush's address in Scranton, Pennsylvania on medical malpractice., January 17, 2003 - U.S. Newswire

Nader Lauds Wellstone Legislation
October 21, 2002

'Corporate Socialism'
October 21, 2002

Nader Bearish on Merrill Lynch Settlement
October 21, 2002

Labor Leaders and Allies
Call for the Repeal of the TAFT-HARTLEY ACT
Labor Day

Nader/Love to Judge Kollar-Kotelly on MS case
November 5, 2001

Corporate Welfare for Wall Street
Feb. 13, 2001

Nader to Pataki/Giuliani: Stop NYSE Giveaway
12 Feb. 2001

Testimony of Ralph Nader on THE HOUSING FINANCE REGULATORY IMPROVEMENT ACT
U.S. House of Representatives
Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Securities, and Government Sponsored Enterprises
Committee on Banking and Financial Services, June 15, 2000

Consumer Harm in the Microsoft Case
Dec. 15, 1999

Keep Commercialism Out of Maternity Wards, Nader Urges Hospitals
August 27, 1999

Keep Commercialism Out of Maternity Wards, Nader Urges Hospitals
August 27, 1999

Letter to Pacifica Chairwoman on the sale of Pacifica stations
August 4, 1999

Letter to President Clinton and Senate and Congressional Leadership on Government Surplus Spending
July 19, 1999

Letter to Senate and Congressional Leadership on HMOs
July 15, 1999

Testimony of Ralph Nader on Corporate Welfare
Before the Committee on the Budget, U. S. House of Representatives, June 30, 1999

Letter to President Clinton and Vice President Gore
Condemning Recent Legislation Limiting Y2K Liability for Corporations
June 29, 1999

Testimony of Ralph Nader on Hr 10
Before the Committee on Banking And Financial Services, U. S. House of Representatives, February 11, 1999

"Saving Social Security From the Privatization Threat"Conference Statement
Rayburn House Office Building, January 21, 1999

Nader Criticizes "Sweetheart Deal" for Big Tobacco
November 16, 1998



http://www.nader.org/releases.html

[Hobarticus]

7. Missing the point, IMO

No one's denying that Nader has worked tirelessly for progressive causes.

What confounds many DUers, and many Dems as well, is why he can't acknowledge the very real possibility that his campaign could take enough votes away from the Dem nominee, someone who he could at least work with to further promote progressive causes, and thus hand the election back to the very people who have done so much damage to the very causes he claims to love.

No one's buying his denials that he didn't affect the 2000 election. Note I didn't say "cost Gore the election", I said affect. Nader can't even bring himself to admit that much.

Is it his ego? Is it because the Dems won't raise him on high as their lord and savior? What's the deal, Ralph?

I respect anyone's right be an independent, but fer God's sakes, with everything that's happened to our country in the last three years, is that really a luxury independents have?

Not trying to be combative. The man's run up a great record. I grew up knowing that Nader was one of the "good guys", fighting for the little guy. But exactly what is he, anymore? Because he sure as hell ain't fighting for me.

[CWebster]

9. How dare anyone but Kerry run in a democracy

Don't you agree?

[nator311]

20. you're missing the point

America has a two party system. Also, even in a place that has a PR system, such as France, there is a runoff election at first. After this members of the left or of the right build a coalition for the general election in order to satisfy some of their needs. Even the French Communists band together with the moderate liberals. Nader could have been smart and ran as a democrat in 2000, which would have probably given him a speaking role at the convention or a cabinet post. Instead, he chose to put the shrub in office.

[jpgray]

10. Nader invests in Fidelity fund with Raytheon, and Halliburton

That one wasn't on your list. He also invests in slave-labor traders Gap, The Limited, and Wal-Mart. Let's not forget his hypocritical quotes, calling General Dynamics and Boeing some of the worst examples of the military industrial complex, yet he invests in both of them.

Writing letters and making statements can be done by anyone. Investing in the worst of corporate America, that takes some work.

edit: But of course it's good that he makes these statements. What's bad is that he doesn't live by them.

[CWebster]

11. Wonder where my pension is invested?

In any event you can be sure I'm not going to be likely to donate it all to programs or efforts to improve the lot of others.

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=9114

[jpgray]

13. Ralph is a millionaire politician--your investments are hardly analogous

As a public figure who trumpets his vast superiority to the Democrats on these issues and moreover lambasted Gore for corporate stock, this hypocrisy is very serious and troubling. That he would invest in the very Fidelity fund denounced by WTO demonstrators and many erstwhile Nader's Raiders shows the most blatant and insulting hypocrisy. Good for Ralph that he speaks out and is right about the issues, BAD for Ralph that he can't follow his own advice and cut out the hypocrisy.

[CWebster]

14. ho hum

http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/pfvs/2000/msg05867.html

[jpgray]

16. So why does he invest in the Magellan fund? (nt)

[library_max]

19. What's the dollar value of his stock in, say, Halliburton?

Because it occurs to me that the best way to get information on a company, and actually be allowed to attend its stockholders' meetings, is to own stock in it. That may or may not explain some or all of the questionable investments.

[library_max]

5. I think he just fancies himself in the role of Kingmaker.

IMO, he wants to be able to dictate candidates and stands on issues to the Democratic Party. His theory seems to be that if he makes us lose enough elections, we'll have to give him everything he wants. He seems not to realize that if we gave him everything he wants, we'd lose even more elections.

BTW, I arrived at this impression by reading what his supporters have to say on DU. I think it fits, certainly better than the portfolio thing. Let's be fair, the man does have an impressive life record of service to progressive causes.

[RichM]

6. Hmm. A deliberate jiacinto impersonation? Red meat for the wolves?

I suspect IC is feeling mischievous today. :evilgrin:

[IrateCitizen]

12. Shhhhhh...

You're blowing my cover in trying to get the Nader-baiters to come out of the closet.

[Armstead]

15. Whatever happened to Carlos?

Something must've happened in one of my extended absences from DU. Why isn't Carlos around?

[RichM]

17. Check your PM in about a minute. I'll explain.

[AP]

8. Did Clark run to prevent edwards from winning and raising the LTCG rate to

25% on income over 300K so that Clark would save millions of dollars in tax on the kind of income he stands to earn for the rest of his life?

Probably not, but it makes more sense than Nader running to protect the value of his stock portfolio which is worth about 1 million bucks.

[SahaleArm]

21. If Johnny boy doesn't get VP will he work as a lobbyist for ATLA?

Or will he go back to chasing? Or will he start lobbying for tax sheltors so he doesn't have to pay medicare tax?

[AP]

22. Since he never did any of that before, I don't know why he'd start.

[scarletwoman]

18. Ah! That merry rattle...

of chains being yanked.... }(

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