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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:20 AM Original message |
She'll be the nominee, but it's going to cost her- and us |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't see how you can be so certain... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. It ain't over till it's over, my friend |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Disagree.... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. wrong |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sorry, but your "optimism" is troubling. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Please, at least cali isn't a drone who holds one single opinion. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. I still think you got it backwards, I put her behind simply because Obama wins caucus states. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. What about Texas and Ohio? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
34. They're primaries, but Obama could get momentum like he did with CA. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Texas is a hybrid (primary/caucus). |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Thanks for the clarification. :) |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Have alittle faith yet Cali, don't go into defeatist mode yet!!! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
9. I have to disagree. I'm increasingly resolved that BO will win it. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. "The only people saying she's not are here on DU" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. ho hum. Another election, another prediction of a party 'split.' |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. Her massive ego won't allow HRC to give in, but even with Obama, the republicans will |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. Sorry, but Obama's the Establishment candidate. Who is more Establishment than Teddy and Kerry? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That's just silly |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Hillary certainly beat them last night ! And Oprah too ! |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
15. If you're scenario plays out, what dems will fill BO and HRC's senate seats? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Dem governors - plenty of good choices I'm sure. NY: Anthony Weiner, Marc Green |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Excellent, so we won't lose anything if they share a ticket. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
16. Cali, I think your thoughts... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. I also believe that there are intangibles here that are working for Obama. I can't tell you who is |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
17. There's a long way to go yet. Plus, she is |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Not sure that a couple of endorsements trumps 35 years of establishment "experience" |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Ya gotta admit O has the establishment backing...... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Obama's gotten some establishment endorsements of late. Hillary must still have quite a few, since |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
18. I sincerely hope you're wrong. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. What candidate spoke against this? Edwards. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
19. If (who knows what will happen) she is ahead in elected delegates, the SDs would be right |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. Why do Obama supporters keep playing up this |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Because the longer the race goes on the |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
22. There are 22 states and DC with 1,706 delegates |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't think that is neccessarily so |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think such a ticket would be a win-win |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Cost Is Their Working Relationship |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. why would obama want to be on the ticket as VP? |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. This is why he will LEAP at the opportunity to be Hillary's VP. |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. remind who the last VP was that arrived "at the peak of his political career" |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. His choice, and I personally don't want him on the ticket. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. Sorry but I don't see it. Obama can take it ALL. Should |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. A week is a long time in politics |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
29. I doubt he would take the VP spot |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
32. The news narrative is that they're tied, and the delegates are close too |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
33. ..... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. See, here's the damn problem with many on the obama side.. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Sorry, I believe in actual analysis, and I'm listening to people |
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Independent-Voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Bullshit |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Me, too. I can't believe the Dem party is going to kill itself |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
37. Are you truly an Obama supporter? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Yes, really and truly. I'm just not a mindless little cheerleader |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. So is the inference that if I'm a Obama supporter I must be a |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. To still believe that Obama can win this |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. It's also reiterating the Clinton "Obama as VP" meme to marginalize him. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. I am having that same though lately, n/t |
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Independent-Voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
38. Hillary getting the nod guarantees a GOP win |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
39. Is it a given that Obama would take the VP spot if offered? (n/t) |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
42. I completely disagree... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
43. "establishment candidate" who is ? |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. LMAO! Thats the biggest crock i've ever heard |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Just take a look at the super delegates...no more need be said... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. Hillary Will Most Definitely Win The Nomination, But I Don't Think It Will Cost Us One Bit. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Sure it will cost us. It will cost us if he gets it too. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. SHE WILL NOT BE THE NOMINEE!!!!!! |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. Obama should be Prez, she should be VP |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I prefer 16 years (or more) of Democratic Leadership to 8. |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
54. I definitely think she should give it to Barack - and vice-versa should he win. |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
55. You give up to easily friend |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
58. You are absolutely correct: the morons casting Hillary as an underdog |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Virtually a lock? Wow, a river in Egypt? |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
63. I totally disagree. I really think Barack is going to get it. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
64. It would be an incredible ticket. But, we still haven't |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
65. I really want him to be VP if Hillary wins. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
66. that`s not going to happen |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. You say that like it's a bad thing cali. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. It's a bad thing for dems that this battle is going to continue |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
77. Al Gore was a broken man and widely reviled outside of the dem base |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. Hillary will never be President |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
80. Obama will be the next president, cali. Relax and wait. |
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