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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:00 PM
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It is offensive to belittle $13 million dollars raised in 30 days
With years of fine Democratic Activism fighting for Campaign Financial Reform we now have a DU Board infestation where threads ridiculous mock a Democratic Candidate for ONLY RAISING A MEAR 13 million dollars in 30 days. Just ask Kucinich, Biden,Dodds and Edwards if they would not feel loved by being able to raise that amount in a Quarter or even a year.

To brag and compare Obama's 32 million in a month to Hillary's funds suggesting she is a weaker candidate is OFFENSIVE! Edwards, Richardson, Biden should speak out because this time of rhetoric sets the tone for election fundraising at every level.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:01 PM
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1. All this talk of money makes me sick, LiberalNurse and I am for Obama.
Bragging about taking in money for a campaign is nothing to be proud of in my opinion.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:06 PM
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8. Hillary raised $118 Million Dollars
and has been at it for two years. Overcoming that is the true David and Goliath story. 90% of Obama's money has come from people giving less than $100. THAT is why people are talking about the money. It's WE the people taking back our government.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:09 PM
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14. Well, if you put it that way...
And is it really true? are there links you have to show this?

Does Obama's money really represent the people's donations to such a greater extent?

I'm generally skeptical of such claims so would like to verify.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:17 PM
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19. Yes it's really true
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/04/obama-sets-record-with-january-donations-online-donations-88-of-total/

"Barack’s $28 million in online contributions came from more than 250,000 contributors. 90% were under $100. 40% were $25 or less, and 10,000 people gave $5 or $10 to the campaign."


"While 47 percent of what Obama raised last year came from donors who gave less than $200, those small contributors made up just 15 percent of Clinton's donor base.

In January, when Obama swamped Clinton by raising $32 million, compared to her $13 million, the vast majority of his total -- $28 million -- came over the Internet."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/07/obama_fundraising_strength_com.html?hpid=topnews

Hillary was fundraising in Oregon in 2006 when we needed money for a Senate and Governor's race. Her Senate campaign is also $10 Million in DEBT.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:18 PM
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20. Thank you very much for the links.
That is rather telling, isn't it?

What a mandate this would be.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:02 PM
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2. what does campaign finance reform have to do with small donations?
if people are raising $13 million or $32 million with small donations, what's wrong with that?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:03 PM
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4. I have no idea if both are from small donations. do you?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:08 PM
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12. well, I think they break that down at the end of every quarter
in the list they have to make public.

I think in the past Obama has gotten a greater share of the $200 or less donations, while Clinton has the larger share of $1000 and up donations.

But "small" is a relative term. Plus there are limits $2,300 or whatever it is, over the course of a year long primary, is only $200 a month.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:03 PM
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3. It's offensive to loan yourself 5 million dollars of dictator blood money
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:05 PM
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6. IP has made a good point and you have to crap on it--go POOP somewhere else!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:04 PM
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5. We're ridiculing her being BROKE
and having to loan herself money after raising $118 Million in the last 2 years.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:07 PM
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11. self-delete--next time i will phrase it more gently
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:38 PM by rodeodance
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:09 PM
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13. Viva La Diva! THAT is the damn cult n/t
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:11 PM
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15. Foul
Literally that is a low blow. No group of candidate supporters for a major Democratic candidate should ever be accused of that. Period. If anyone wants to discuss whether a supporter of this or that candidate is or is not actually seriously looking at the issues, as opposed to only riding a wave of emotion - go at it. But let's stay away from the flame bait insults.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:37 PM
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22. you are right--i should not have done that. temptation hit me. sorry
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:06 PM
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7. Thank you--a refreshing voice of sanity over this issue
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:06 PM
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9. If you are that easily offended, perhaps you have chosen
the wrong candidate to back.

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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:13 PM
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16. Uh huh... Obama offends many of us. We just like Hillary better.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:50 PM
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24. Perhaps you have nothing to contribute
to the discussion thus confabulation is your only option.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:06 PM
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10. Our contributions are what will block the lobbyists stranglehold on our government
It's hard for people to give money with jobs going overseas and families struggling. Contributions from small fry like us do add up. Hopefully, this will be the precursor of public financing of elections. Taking the reins.

I contributed to Obama yesterday. It was my first to his campaign since I supported others before him. but this is what it takes to make them understand who's boss.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:15 PM
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17. YES THEY WILL!
Just donated another $25, every little bit counts!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:15 PM
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18. Delusions you speak..
It only raises the goal post to where only the wealthy apply to run for Congress or for President. Sounds republican to me.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:32 PM
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21. You're against public finaincing of elections?
I'm surprised.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:45 PM
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23. I don't understand why we don't get more positive posts about
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:52 PM by Benhurst
the Reverend Sun Myung Moon here on DU.

He has raised Billions of Dollars through small contributions made to his followers at airports and public places across the United States and around the world.

And He is a certified Man of God, whose coronation was held in a U.S. Senate Office Building.

So who can possibly say money is a corrupting influence, especially if it is raised through small donations?


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/6/18/153439/600/526/34070



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Uncle Sinister Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:52 PM
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25. Ron Paul proves that raising money is NOT going to win elections
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