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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:45 PM
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Michigan Dems allocate delegates to Clinton, uncommitted
by The Associated Press
Friday February 08, 2008, 4:50 PM

LANSING — Hillary Rodham Clinton will get the lion's share of Democratic national convention delegates after winning the state's Jan. 15 presidential primary.

The Michigan Democratic Party said Friday that Clinton will get 73 pledged delegates after winning 55 percent of the statewide vote.

Another 55 delegates will be uncommitted since 40 percent of the Democratic voters chose uncommitted. Because Barack Obama and John Edwards had taken their names off the ballot, many of their supporters voted for uncommitted.

The state also has 28 superdelegates, many of whom remain uncommitted, for a total of 156.

Michigan has been stripped of its delegates for moving up its primary, but party leaders expect the delegates to be seated at the national convention.


http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/02/michigan_dems_allocated_delega.html
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:46 PM
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1. Sounds fair
Its up to them and it sounds like they made a fair decision.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:46 PM
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2. So it looks like the superdelegates aren't even buying the 'HIllary won' argument.
They'd be pledging to her if they did.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:49 PM
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3. Yeah, but their seats are in Nebraska.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:52 PM
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4. that's not right. Hers was the only name on the ballot.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:01 PM
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7. Not true
four names were on the ballot. Those that weren't on it CHOSE to withdraw their names.

But don't let facts get in the way of making shit up.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:13 PM
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8. a show of solidarity with your party is a bad thing?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/08/michigans_missed_moment_as_cli.html?hpid=topnews

"Clinton won both Michigan and Florida handily. She won Michigan in part because Obama and other Democrats took their names off the ballot in solidarity with the DNC and as part of a pledge made to Iowa, New Hampshire and other early states not to participate in unsanctioned contests."

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 07:00 PM
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9. I didn't say it was good or bad
I said Clinton wasn't the only name on the MI ballot, which is an indisputable fact.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:44 PM
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17. You implied that they should not have done what the DNC said /nt
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:24 PM
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10. Once wind of this catches fire...
It may work against Hillary in a big way.

Many. many will see this as unfair.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:45 PM
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18. If they seat those delegates without rerunning the election, and she wins
the nomination because of it, SHE WILL LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION

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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:29 PM
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20. Yes, and - the Dems would lose many Dems
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 09:30 PM by RiverStone
who would say fuck it to the party establishment!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:41 PM
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16. They chose it because the DNC told them to. You will see a whole bunch of people NOT vote
in the general election for President if they seat MI and FL

The ONLY acceptable solution is to rerun the primary or don't seat the delegates

If she wins the nomination without having the election rerun, they WILL lose the general election


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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:54 PM
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5. Those delegates will not be seated.
the DNC has said no, and last I checked, the MDP did not have authority over the DNC.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:37 PM
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13. If they want me to vote in the Presidential Election they better not
The only other acceptable solution for me would be to re-run the primary


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:58 PM
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6. They will not count toward picking a nominee.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:27 PM
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11. Look, this won't happen
No amount of Clintonian crying will change that.

For this to happen, we will essentially be punishing Obama for playing by the rules and rewarding Clinton for breaking them.

NO. FUCKING. WAY.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:35 PM
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12. If that happens, and she wins the nomination because of that, she loses the general election
They had better think hard and clear on that. The ONLY acceptable solution is to re-run the primary or not seat them

If they don't do one of those choices, and she wins the nomination because the other candidates were told NOT to run in MI and Florida, here is one person who WILL NOT VOTE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION

and I don't think I will be alone


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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:37 PM
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14. I feel the same way it would be an unfair race
and i wouldn't vote for her either.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:38 PM
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15. I Will be at home with the rest of you if they seat them without do over
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:46 PM
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19. The solution is so DAMN SIMPLE, just rerun the election, then there is no problem /nt
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