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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:18 PM Original message |
Riddle me this, Hillary supporters.... if Hillary's strengths are among the working class and whites |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. working class has trouble with caucuses as the have a hard time getting off to caucus |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's Saturday. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I was at kids travel basketball games all morning |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes, working class should give up their only day off to go caucus for 4 hours... |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
42. for many years I took a vacation day to work the caucus |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Jeez Louise... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Maybe we should have caucus site at workplaces.....nt |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Uh - a lot of working class people work on Saturday - retail/restaurant/blue collar jobs. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I know that, most don't though. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Unfortunately not everybody has weekends off! My husband RARELY has |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
43. OMFG, are you really a NURSE? In what freaky universe do you get all Saturdays off? |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Yes, I'm REALLY a nurse. Believe it or not, |
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IrishBloodEngHeart (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. it is saturday |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. exactly. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. Oh come off it. You wouldn't be implying the caucus didn't include workers if HRC had won it. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. No. I don't support caucuses period. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Louisiana proves Obama can win primaries too. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:14 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. This is not about my dislike for Obama. Yes, Obama can win primaries - and that is a fair win. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:18 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Would you be saying that if YOUR candidate was winning them? |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yes I would be saying that. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Yeah, is that why the caucuses are so tilted toward Obama? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
57. 75% of Obama's wins have been in caucuses or open primaries |
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IrishBloodEngHeart (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Furthermore, why did it take her til February until she started |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Look I am white and in WA |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Thank you Marlakay ! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Hey, I'm a white woman for Obama too... |
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DB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Thank you. Snohomish county is pretty darn white and very OBAMA. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. It's also really poor |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Very well written! |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. how come only about 40k will show up to represent the whole state... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. That's less than 1%, too. Truly representative of Washington State. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. closer to 200,000 showed up across the state |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I would still rather see a primary.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Only if you like money and MSM decisions determining the outcome |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm baffled by the "it's a caucus" thing, to dismiss Obama's wins. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Less than 1% of a state population is "high turnout"? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Yep, high turnout for caucuses. The voters who care. If you want to |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. If she loses LA, which is NOT a caucus, what will the excuse be? |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It's a wonder anyone in Louisiana voted, considering how the U.S. govt. screwed them over. n/t |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Well, then, caucuses are AWESOME!!! And fair!! |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. lots of parents are doing sports or debate or dance |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Yup...including Obama supporters. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. More of the older crowd goes for Clinton - younger for Obama. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yup. And younger people have to work. Older people are retired. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm talking about baby boomers & 40-65. We aren't retired yet... |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. while it is true that 2 Clinton delegates were 75+ one of the |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Well after doing two hours of volunteer work this AM |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. And you think Obama supporters don't have similar stories? |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. since there are a lot more of them under 30....NO |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's not true, XemaSab. I tried to explain my area at least, it is definitely NOT true. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I'm not sure that's true either |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. Conditions have to be just right for Hillary to win a state--no caucus, not too black, not too white |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Not too urban, not too rural.... |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. She decided that Obama would do well there and she is using |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Funny you should say this... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
45. Washington is like no other |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
46. that graphic doesn't support your assertion |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You're right |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
47. She does as well as Obama does with whites. |
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WA98070 (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
49. I thought Hilary does well with retirees. Most of my precinct was over 50. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
52. her 'strengths' aren't with the "working class and whites" she carried much via the latino vote... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
62. Washington has an OPEN CAUCUS & Primary a poor indicator of reality in the GE |
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