HIllary to Sue Obama for Copyright Infringement

[mculator]

This just in: Copyright judges today ruled that they would hear Clinton's case that Obama copied Hillary's policy word for word. In the deposition there were so many instances of blatant piggybacking that one justice said, "I haven't seen a display this counterfeit since Milli Vanilli."

02/08/08
In an effort to have Barack Obama's intrade market rise, his supporters simply told him one thing: "copy her." And so he did. Sure enough, the polls started to rise. His intrade market is soaring as the bourgeois following he has dumps the "tax cuts they don't need and didn't ask for" into his campaign. Like a dream, Barack must have thought when looking at the polls over the last year: "all I have to do is exactly what Hillary does."

The copyright claim is real, folks. It might not be a court of law in which I bring you this case, but rather, it's the court of public opinion, where both you and I are are judges of the highest order.
Obama's strategy has been successful because the idea is to come close to Hillary while offering a 'cake and eat it to' health care package that won't bring us any closer to a solution. In short, to do what works with the bourgeois voters while leaving the worker undervalued and undereducated.

He should explain exactly, and I mean specifically, what this "change" that he will bring to Washington is, since the more he changes, the closer his policies look to Hillary's, save the bone he throws to the opposition of universal health care.

I want a single payer system. We all know Hillary does. I'm here to help her out. She's better at getting things done than Barack is, but he's better at politics. I don't like the politics part. I want my family to have health care. I'm not rich. I don't like Obama's plan, and even if he assumes the exact plan of Hillary as he has with all these other policies, I believe only she knows how to implement her own policy.

As they say, the devil is in the details.

I can't wait for the two measly debates Obama reluctantly agreed to, if we even get one on Obama-fanatic MSNBC anymore.

In one debate she should discuss his Superbowl ad and Flordia ad, and whether or not Flordia delegates should be seated.

In the other debate she should focus on why Obama did so well in red states like Kansas and Alaska when she did so well in California, New York, and in Kerry and Teddy's "Massachusetts Massacre". I wonder..... which opinions will count more in November?

In both debates she should point to the thievery that has been committed upon her ideas by his campaign... Hey Obama... I thought the REPUBLICANS WERE THE PARTY OF IDEAS?!?!

his just in: Copyright judges today ruled that they would hear Clinton's case that Obama copied Hillary's policy word for word. In the deposition there were so many instances of blatant piggybacking that one justice said, "I haven't seen a display this counterfeit since Milli Vanilli."

02/08/08
In an effort to have Barack Obama's intrade market rise, his supporters simply told him one thing: "copy her." And so he did. Sure enough, the polls started to rise. His intrade market is soaring as the bourgeois following he has dumps the "tax cuts they don't need and didn't ask for" into his campaign. Like a dream, Barack must have thought when looking at the polls over the last year: "all I have to do is exactly what Hillary does."

The copyright claim is real, folks. It might not be a court of law in which I bring you this case, but rather, it's the court of public opinion, where both you and I are are judges of the highest order.
Obama's strategy has been successful because the idea is to come close to Hillary while offering a 'cake and eat it to' health care package that won't bring us any closer to a solution. In short, to do what works with the bourgeois voters while leaving the worker undervalued and undereducated.

He should explain exactly, and I mean specifically, what this "change" that he will bring to Washington is, since the more he changes, the closer his policies look to Hillary's, save the bone he throws to the opposition of universal health care.

I want a single payer system. We all know Hillary does. I'm here to help her out. She's better at getting things done than Barack is, but he's better at politics. I don't like the politics part. I want my family to have health care. I'm not rich. I don't like Obama's plan, and even if he assumes the exact plan of Hillary as he has with all these other policies, I believe only she knows how to implement her own policy.

As they say, the devil is in the details.

I can't wait for the two measly debates Obama reluctantly agreed to, if we even get one on Obama-fanatic MSNBC anymore.

In one debate she should discuss his Superbowl ad and Flordia ad, and whether or not Flordia delegates should be seated.

In the other debate she should focus on why Obama did so well in red states like Kansas and Alaska when she did so well in California, New York, and in Kerry and Teddy's "Massachusetts Massacre". I wonder..... which opinions will count more in November?

In both debates she should point to the thievery that has been committed upon her ideas by his campaign... Hey Obama... I thought the REPUBLICANS WERE THE PARTY OF IDEAS?!?!

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=5784

[sniffa]

1. I can't help but laugh at you

:rofl:

[thevoiceofreason]

2. Obama legal team has counterclaims already prepared

Same charges.

[Tatiana]

3. Cute!

:rofl:

[Radical Activist]

4. But I thought he was copying Edwards' platform?

I have a hard time keeping track of all this crap.

[mculator]

28. he was... before august

[Radical Activist]

45. Right. With talking about poverty.

Because someone who worked in poor neighborhoods as a community organizer in his 20's never thought about poverty before.

[jackson_dem]

53. He didn't give a speech about it in his presidential campaign until Edwards' poverty tour

What a mere coincidence! :sarcasm: Luckily by giving it when Edwards was on his tour he was able to work himself into rare coverage of Edwards ("John Edwards continued his poverty tour. Meanwhile, Barack Obama also addressed...").

[Radical Activist]

81. I heard him speak about poverty

before Edwards drops out. Maybe the problem is that some people weren't really listening to Obama until Edwards dropped out.

Its true that Edwards spoke about poverty more often. Personally, a good stump speech is near the bottom of the list of things I look at in a candidate. Anyone can say anything on the campaign trail. I guess that's why I wasn't an Edwards supporter.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

75. Welcome to DU, "mculator " n/t

[hfojvt]

80. that's the same story though

since Hillary copied her healthcare plan from Edwards, and then her economic stimulus plan too.

[mculator]

89. Edwards

should re enter the race--just for fun

[OzarkDem]

5. K&R

True he has copied most of her policies, but left out the important details.

Sort of DLC in reverse - pretend to be a Democrat without really having Democratic policies.

[BayouBengal07]

6. Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.

What? Huh?

:shrug:

[insanity]

84. One of my favorite replys to most arguements

And that's from the heart :o

[MercutioATC]

7. Hint:

Actually supporting a candidate will earn one a lot more credibility here than simply tearing down the opposition.

[mculator]

9. I support the workers

Viva Hillary

[Laelth]

14. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

-Laelth

[MercutioATC]

20. HRC seems more labor-friendly to you than Obama?

Just curious as to why...

[mculator]

25. Because you follow the money

If the bourgeois are flocking toward Obama, I have a good idea why.
Intrade.com
He's at 70%....
HELLO? Doesn't that mean people with money want him to win?
And OF COURSE they are more educated... this is America, not Belgium!! (You'd probably hate them...They Support Hillary)

[Laelth]

34. Um ... I don't think that's what Intrade is about.

People donate money to the candidate they want to win. Intrade is for betting. There people bet on who they think is going to win, regardless of who they want to win.

I think.

-Laelth

[Bicoastal]

38. This person is growing increasingly ridiculous. nt

[mculator]

41. right

and the media and endorsements dont have any influence.
like i said obama supporters are naive

[MercutioATC]

39. Intrade is a gambling site.

I wouldn't call that "the bourgeois...flocking toward Obama".


Wouldn't using which candidate received fewer corporate contributions be a better indicator of "labor-friendly"?

Look at the data....that candidate would be Obama.

[Zhade]

60. Self-delusion, I think.

Or rampant political ignorance.

[JVS]

57. Oh yeah, she's totally carrying the banner of Lenin

:eyes:

[stickernation]

68. easier said than done

zbigniew brzezinski will never have my support.

[Bicoastal]

8. Do you ever get tired of forwarding that exact same link? You've used it

in just about every post you've made since you've been here.

[mculator]

11. what link

oh, THIS LINK?


http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=5784

Hillary is a comrade. I will do what I can. Sorry.

[Bicoastal]

18. This isn't a pro-Hillary forum. It's a pro-Democrats website.

Thus, quit spamming our board with the same bogus talking point.

[mculator]

21. Sorry

You wouldn't be an Obama supporter, would you?

[Bicoastal]

23. Let me answer your question w/another question--will you vote for Obama

...should he become the nominee?

[mculator]

26. I will trade a vote

Vote for Vote trade... I offered it a thousand times when she was in the lead and no one would take me up... you want to trade? After all, isn't it Michelle and Barack on TV making the point that his bourgeois and black voters won't vote for Hillary???

[Bicoastal]

29. So.....you have no interest in answering a very straight-forward question? nt

[mculator]

32. Do you?

[Bicoastal]

36. I will vote for either candidate should they get the nomination.

Right now, I support Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton.

Let's talk about you now.

[mculator]

44. I support Hillary

and i will vote for a democrat, but will use the threat of not voting as a weapon for her, yes. after all... one good turn deserves another.

[Bicoastal]

49. Just admit it. You're a troll. You're here not to state your opinions--

--but to cut n' paste talking points from Hillary's various websites. And you couldn't even do THAT right.

Every statement you've uttered in the short time since you became a member reflects this--the way you randomly interject her talking points into each comment, whether pertinent or not. There's no personality behind it--just the whirring mechanism of a campaign machine.

All of us can see right through you. I don't know EXACTLY what you are, but it doesn't make me feel any warmer or fuzzier about HRC right about now.

[mculator]

56. I was for Hillary

before Barack Obama was in the race. You wish I were a troll, that would negate the truth. And the truth is, he's a thief.

[rodeodance]

62. so you will vote for the thief now?

[mculator]

66. yes

if i have to.
I don't hate Obama, and like I said the only problem with indirectly voting for her policies is that he may not be able to execute them!! Once again, devil's in the details.

[rodeodance]

78. then don't cornfuse yourself and stick with gal.

[PaulaFarrell]

82. A comrade?

where do you you know her from then?

[sandnsea]

10. They all lifted directly from John Kerry

which Pete ought to know since he was there. How ridiculous.

And Hillary doesn't support single payer. Where the hell did that come from?

[mculator]

15. Support???

Did i say support? Does it matter? She's for it. Read her book, it would do you some good.

[sandnsea]

33. Then why does she attack Obama over it

She attacked him for saying that if he were creating a system from scratch, he'd go with single payer. Why is she attacking him if she believes the same thing?

[mculator]

40. The attack ad is a good point

He said in one frame he was for it, in the next frame that he never said he was for it. She attacks his incredibility. He says whatever he needs to, steals whatever he needs to. It's sick.

[sandnsea]

43. But that isn't true, it's a lie

She lied to get you to believe something that he never said. What does that say to you about her credibility?

[mculator]

46. what?

watch the ad and come back. if it's not sorry, dont say anything at all, because i wont be replying

[sandnsea]

52. The ad cut out the context

This has been all hashed out previously. This is from back in '06, his view has been consistent.

"Even so, Obama said that although he “would not shy away from a debate about single-payer,” right now he is “not convinced that it is the best way to achieve universal healthcare.”

http://davidsirota.com/index.php/mr-obama-goes-to-washington/

He's the one that introduced an Illinois constitutional amendment to make health care a right. He's the one who passed health care legislation in Illinois that expanded service and increased the quality of care. Hillary hasn't done anything on health care. She hasn't accomplished anything in 8 years. If she were my senator, I'd consider voting her out.

[countingbluecars]

12. Hey, you're pretty funny.

Wrong, but funny.

[AZBlue]

13. Lordy!

Wasn't there going to be a new rule about DU'ers with low posts who start inane threads?

[AtomicKitten]

16. I thought this was from the Onion.

But it's even funnier coming from hillaryhub!

[K Gardner]

17. OMG ! Another new Obama Basher Quoting Hillary Hub ! Where ARE all these peeeeple

coming from??

[NoodleyAppendage]

24. That's an easy question. Hillary Headquarters. Propaganda Efforts Afoot at DU since Iowa.

Ever since Iowa there's been a concerted effort by Hillary staffer-types to mould the message at DU. I'm getting tired of hitting the ignore button.

J

[Bicoastal]

47. I didn't believe it before--but this person seems like a genuine paid operative...

...a Narc trying to score some leads with the kiddies. "So, my fellow dude, where do we go to get the drugs for smoking?"

It's more transparent than Grandma's underpants.

[rodeodance]

63. oh for petey's sake--you are paranoid--every body is a paid hill operative--get real!

[Bicoastal]

65. Ah, ok. Maybe he's unpaid. nt

[mculator]

69. Nope

My name is Tim Cooper and I'm a 27 year old Chess Teacher from Nashville who thinks that this country is headed for a big big problem, and I don't want MSNBC and rich people who don't need the help Hillary will offer getting her elected on a free pass. I don't want to look in the mirror and say "you should have spoken up" when we're the last country to not make any commitment to Universal Health Care. I'm not Irish Catholic like Micheal Moore, so my love for Hillary isn't forbidden. I am not morally prohibited from voting for her because she joined congress in sending our resolution to the UN which enabled the Iraq war. I don't care that's she is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I care about getting things done, because we're only guaranteed 4-8 years, and while Obama's getting to know the job, we could have someone who already knows it working for us on day one. I know BO supporters HATE that argument, and I know why... because it is VALID.

[rodeodance]

71. kisses

[mculator]

73. heh

[rodeodance]

77. you know--luv day coming up and all that.

[Laelth]

50. LOL. If so, they're not very good at it.

And I'm not saying you're wrong. In fact, I think you're probably right. But Hillary either needs to pay these people more or she needs to replace more than just her campaign manager.

:rofl:

-Laelth

[Happyhippychick]

19. I really hope Judge Wapner will hear the case. I miss him.

[sfam]

22. Welcome to my ever growing ignore list...nt

[mculator]

27. Yeah I'm right there along with the economy and heath care...

Burn

[Levgreee]

30. They probably both got input from very similarly qualified individuals nt

[mculator]

58. The best thing he could do

Would be to call her from his Oval Office and say... How were you going to do this, Hillary?

[karynnj]

31. "tax cuts they don't need and didn't ask for"

I think that that phrase was used by many of the 2004 candidates for President and even Bill Clinton then - in addition to several Senators - it's not that original.

How do you know HRC "knows how to implement her own policy". Obama DID implement a health insurance plan in Illinois - HRC failed. (and don't tell me about S-CHIP - Kennedy and Hatch implemented that, not her.)

[mculator]

35. Of course she failed

They'd like her to fail in this election too.

[Danger Mouse]

37. are you stupid on purpose?

[RevolutionaryActs]

51. You will come clean my monitor now?

kthxbai.

[Danger Mouse]

55. No, and I will NOT 'shine your shoes' either!!!1

what do you take me for??

[mculator]

87. well

were you well-adjusted at birth??

[Melissa G]

42. This op post is so bogus it ought to be deleted by mods

and I support neither Hillary or Obama at the moment.
However, I am tired of the utter garbage that is being put on greatest page lately.

[Name removed]

48. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Egalia]

54. Funny, but

he does need to stop copying her.

[Barack_America]

59. Didn't he release his healthcare plan before she did?

Interesting "facts" hillaryhub's got there.

[AZBlue]

61. Oh now look, if you're going to start using logic and facts, people will flame you!

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[rodeodance]

64. NO,

[Barack_America]

70. Actually, yeah.

Obama released his last May, if I'm not mistaken. But Hillary's full plan wasn't released until August/September.

Please feel free to correct the dates if I have them wrong.

[mculator]

74. Yeah

I think it's exactly the opposite, but i'm not sure either.

[krkaufman]

67. A post so silly it had to be doubled to make a single post. n/t

[Hill_YesWeWill]

72. oh god, the embarrassment, I almost can't take it anymore people,

you must be a republican because it really seems like you Don't want me to vote for Hillary Clinton on March 4th.

Well?

Do you or don't you want me to vote for her in the Texas primary and then caucus for her that night?

[mculator]

76. Actually

I do.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

79. Well, I plan on it, but not for you!!! You my friend, my fellow clinton supporter, are

now on my ignore list!

[geiger]

83. For information in the public domain? She's either insane or getting REALLY really bad advice.

[alcibiades_mystery]

85. First it's too different, now it's too similar

Make up your mind, please.

:rofl:

[blm]

86. HILLARY UP 40% in Mass. Kerry and Kennedy helped close that gap. Bill LOSES advantage for

Hillary as chief spokesperson of the Asshole wing of the Democratic Party.

[mculator]

88. Politicians are probably mostly assholes....

Don't you think?