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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:24 PM
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If John Edwards Endorses Hillary Clinton It will Be A Complete SELLOUT By Edwards!
Your Comments Are Invited......... Anyone care to deny that such a move by our Official Anti-Corporatism Candidate would be a sellout of monumental proportion, as Hillary Clinton is undeniably... The Queen of Corporatism?

Please Johnny Stand Strong... Do Not Cave! Stand on Principle! We can still trust in you TODAY... But NEVER again if you sacrifice our sacred trust in you demonstrated by our hard earned dollars contributed, and our steadfast personal support.

You will make US out to be the fools... Think hard before you do this... If you are even thinking of such a decision.

If Obama is not ready, is not capable and is holding baggage both known and unknown and of course Hillary has baggage as well... then just sit tight... Let THEM be the fools.. You will, by standing firmly behind your stated principles and beliefs, be the one that EVERYONE WILL EXCLAIM... "It Should Have Been Edwards... and WE WOULD HAVE WON!" "If ONLY... WE had chosen Edwards... WE WOULD HAVE WON!"

That is what YOU want the People to Say... That THEY were in fact the fools... Those who lacked the character, political maturity and foresight ... to see the light through the opacity of the thick media fog... those who did not support you now and before... but can only lament that they did not in the end... wishing that they did...

Let the vast throngs make their error and live with it... Do not compound the error by jumping in bed with those who thought that they listened but in reality... did not.

Go now Johnny... Think twice... You are young... just a few years older than this writer who has met you and trusted you... to do the Right and appropriate thing.

Play for US... WE trusted you to stay in it to the finish... You suspended your campaign and we were, and many of US ARE STILL WITH ... YOU! Stay with US now... Let history as you say play itself out...

If you stand aside and let the history makers manufactured as they are ... make their history you may well come out shining brightest of all in the end.

Best to you, Elizabeth and the kids!:) J@JRFCDC

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:26 PM
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1. Edwards will endorse the Democratic nominee. nt
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:29 PM
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2. Certainly As A Perfunctory Move... But Until That Is Decided and ALL The Wash Is Hung To Dry...
He can just sit tight... He owes these people and the DLC NOTHING! But he does have a responsibility to his supporters...
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM
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3. Gee...maybe, just maybe, if Edwards supports Clinton, it's because HE thinks it's the right thing
There is no universal US that moves as a mass unit. I find that one hell of a scary prospect.

I as a card-carrying Democrat voted for Hillary Clinton in my state's primary on Tuesday. If John Edwards (my original candidate of choice) supports her, I'll be pleased, but if he supports Obama, I won't loose any sleep over it. This US versus THEM attitude has a religious fervor to it that is unsettling to say the least.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:59 PM
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19. Yikes - just the opposite - it he supports Hillary - I will think totally
differently. He will be a shill and not worthy of any further consideration, ever. Unless he repents and shows remorse for such a stupid, idiotic move.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:36 AM
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36. Your avatar explains your response. n/t
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM
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4. Not this again.
Sorry, but haven't we been over this again and again.
He's a politician. He is playing the game.
Perhaps the fools were those that thought otherwise.
I think you should leave him alone.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:32 PM
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5. I agree, plus if she loses the nomination (or the GE) he risks forever.....
....having his convictions second guessed as being for sale if the price is right.

While Hillary needs his endorsement, Obama doesnt anymore.

He would be better off now just waiting until the nominee is decided before endorsing.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:32 PM
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6. I hope Edwards will not endorse anyone
until it's been decided at the convention, then he supports whoever the nominee is.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:11 PM
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22. I agree. I am sick of all these endorsements
I am sick of people trying to tell me how to vote with THEIR endorsements.

Between our screwed up primary system, endorsements, and super delegates - it is difficult to have faith in our election system.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:33 PM
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7. For the Record, Kitty hates Obama too.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:34 PM
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8. Oh the drama of it all.....
:eyes:
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:34 PM
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I voted for him in SC and, frankly, I couldn't care less what he says.
He lied, big time, about a major aspect of his candidacy.

A huge part of my reason for supporting him was because he told me he would stay in the race and take the good fight all the way to the convention. That was when he was campaigning here, on January 25. Just a few days later, he bailed.

He can't be trusted and his opinion means nothing to me at this point, and never will.
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:47 PM
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41. Hey, he didn't end his campaign; he
"suspended" it. May make no difference, but if something BIG and unexpected happened, he'd be there to step back in. I don't read this as bailing. Though I too hope he doesn't endorse until the nominee is selected.
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:34 PM
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9. If he chooses Clinton over Obama, ,,yes, Clinton is corporate nafta zi
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:34 PM
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10. Bullshit.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:37 PM
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11. of course, if he endorses saint obama it will be just ducky, right?
feh...
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:40 PM
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12. He shouldn't endorse anyone.
I'm hoping he ends up as Vice President. If he has 1/4 the power Cheney has, he can do a lot for those he was fighting for.

An Obama/Edwards ticket would be hard-to-beat, geographically, philosophically and ethnically

I don't think he'd be a good veep for HRC. He might overshadow Bill at times and that bird won't fly.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:47 PM
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13. It'd be a telling criticism of Obama's substance-less campaign
Edwards' plans for true universal health care and such have a lot more in common with Clinton than with Obama. Some people around here love to yell "anti-corporatist!" so much that I don't think they really see a meaning behind it anymore, it has just become a brainless buzzword.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:50 PM
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15. Yeah....it's the same health plan.....cause she stole it. Duh!
:rofl:
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:56 PM
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17. Yea, she stole the health care plan from Edwards
that she was originally pushing 15 years ago. :eyes:

Be less dumb, please.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:58 AM
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29. this is the same plan she had 15 years ago?
Then why wasn't it part of her campaign

from DAY ONE?

Apparently she wasn't quite ready to announce a plan when she began her campaign.

The same way she wasn't ready to announce an economic stimulus until a few weeks after Edwards.

If Hillary wins the nom, she better have Edwards for her VEEP so she'll have somebody to copy from, from Day One.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:02 PM
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20. Who in the hell cares about the minutia? Yikes - we are talking
big picture here ! Hope and positive things about our future and more of the past bullshit - bush-shit - that we all have hated here.

Wake UP !!!!!!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:39 AM
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27. So anything other than pure fluff is dismissed as "minutia" by Obamanoids these days?
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 02:39 AM by Seabiscuit
That's about the lamest excuse I've heard so far for Obama's completely substance-less campaign of empty rhetorical oratory.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:49 PM
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14. Consistency hasn't exactly been a hallmark of Edwards' 10 year political career
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 10:50 PM by Freddie Stubbs
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:54 PM
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16. Hillary and Edwards are more similar to each other than to Obama
so it would make sense for him to support her over him.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:56 PM
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18. You are SO right. If he does, he's total history to me. !
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 AM
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24. He'll be so crushed by your rejection.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:14 AM
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26. CORRECT!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:10 PM
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21. Blah, blah, blah...
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 11:12 PM by Blue_In_AK
Give me a break. John Edwards can support whoever he wants to or not at all. Hillary Clinton is not evil, Obama is not God. I personally hope he doesn't publicly endorse either of them, but if he does, it's certainly not the end of the world, or the end of John Edwards as a good, decent person.

Oh, the drama.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:40 PM
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23. you're Bashing Edwards for something he hasn't done yet, an said he wouldn't, your agenda is showing...
he like the rest of us will support the party against the ReThugs.. not the candidate, the party.

i was interested in obama, but assholes like you turned me off.. i am sick of the spam.. and tactics like your's
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:47 AM
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33. You are mistaken
The asshole is not an Obama supporter.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 AM
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25. some good old fashioned pre-emptive trashing
from those hope and change folks at the Obama campaign!

Let's have a singalong!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:40 AM
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28. You obviously dont know Kitty then. She hates Obama and Clinton.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:01 AM
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30. the OP is an Obama hater who has even gone after his mother
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:24 AM
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38. I have to wonder why the mods let someone like that post here
if they're trashing all the nominees.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:15 AM
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31. Edwards will not endorse anyone because he is a _________________
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:31 AM
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32. Let's give Edwards the benefit of the doubt. He was pressured already & is probably
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 04:41 AM by TheGoldenRule
being pressured now.

I don't like either H or O but unlike the majority of us who have the option to sit this one out or write a name in, Edwards MUST choose if he wants to be considered for VP or another position.

It sucks, and I bet he knows it as well as we do. I'd like to see him hold some sort of office, so cut Edwards some slack ya'll!!!
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:52 AM
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34. If anyone is pressuring him it is probably the
Clinton camp. I'm sure Obama would like to have Edwards' endorsement but I don't think he is hunting him down. I mean even the meeting they were supposed to have was postponed. If I were Edwards I would stay out of it. Then once there was a nominee I would step out and campaign. I think that is what Bill Richardson is doing. Sure he is definately a good friend to the Clintons but he stopped short of endorsing Hillary.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:38 AM
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35. What a strange beginning and ending to your post.
I'm sure it warms their heart.

I object to the use of the word WE in your OP. You don't speak for me.

If he endorses Clinton, I will have to take a good, long second look at her. I trust John to make the right decision. He has access to a lot more information on these candidates than we do.

I say this as someone who is hoping he endorses Obama.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:31 AM
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37. John Edwards was not the anti-corporatist candidate
he, Obama and Clinton are all about equally corporatist.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:33 PM
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39. Indeed.
She's the opposite of everything he represented in his campaign. If she backs him, as someone who supported and donated to him initially, I will be very dissapointed. You can't go from campaigning against corporate special interests, the status quo, and the war in Iraq to embracing it without selling out principles.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:43 PM
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40. He will have a much harder time given Obams recent union endorsements.
If he wanted to go w/ Clinton he should have done it before now.
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