Dean on Meet the Press

[mandyky]

Sunday morning, 2nd half of the show, times vary on local NBC affiliates

[Zynx]

1. This ought to be good.

I'll watch it for sure.

[patricia92243]

2. Dean should spit on Russert - he was his most harmful critic.

[Guaranteed]

3. Kick TEN MINUTES, folks nt

[Guaranteed]

4. Rice is STILL equating the war on terror with invading Iraq.

Saying we have to "take the fight to the terrorists."

[Guaranteed]

5. Same old lies.

It's all the same garbage. The Bush administration is going to have to do better than this if they're going to win this election. We're beating the crap out of them, and they're just saying the same untrue crap over and over. Still.

[Guaranteed]

6. Dean on now nt

[Guaranteed]

7. He is absolutely DESTROYING the Bush administration. nt

[janx]

9. He is? Please describe this! It isn't on here for another

hour and a half. (Mountain time.)

[Guaranteed]

10. Ahhhh well you're just gonna have to wait, then

hee hee! ;)

[janx]

11. Is he talking about anything that Condi said?

(He probably isn't, but I'm hoping...)

[Guaranteed]

15. Not in direct terms, but he's talking about the Bush

administration in general and the crap that they pull.

[w4rma]

8. Dean is kicking major butt. (n/t)

[edzontar]

12. Dean kicked Bush ass. He also spoke clearly re-support of JK

For all those who continue their "complaining" that Dean is not supporting the DP--this interview should dispel THAT slander once and for all.

[Guaranteed]

16. Yes...he went out of his way to support Kerry

He was downright deferrent.

[littlejoe]

48. Okay. I'll shut up now about your boy Dean.

I still don't like him, though.

[AmyStrange]

49. Thanx littlejoe...

getting Bush out of office and getting more dems into congress is job one now. Personally, I don't like Kerry either, but what he did last week in not apologizing for calling the Bush re(s)elect machine a bunch of crooked liars was inspirational - atleast for me.

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[slinkerwink]

52. here's a shiny new tombstone...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=134972

[JNelson6563]

13. Dean did a great job!

He nailed Team Bush on Iraq. He was brilliant. More relxed than his appearances as a candidate, of course.

He plainly said he'd be supporting Kerry and did a good job highlighting why he'd be a big improvement over Bush. Timmy tried to stir up some shit but Dean was very gracious. Wouldn't be goaded. Presented a very good picture of unity against Bush. Set a great example.

He talked a bit about grassroots and getting candidates elected for lesser seats. Will speak about it on Larry King on Wednesday. Timmy said "they'd be covering it". I like that the press is so interested in what Dean has to say. I'm sure they were a bit disappointed he wasn't bitter or anything but determined to affect change.

Rock on Dean! :toast:

Julie

[flpoljunkie]

14. I totally agree, Julie. Dean was not drawn into Russert's thinly veiled

attempt to discredit John Kerry, despite Timmy's repeated attempts.

Dean did himself and our party proud. He will be a tremendous asset for our party in the upcoming elections.

[dsc]

21. thank you

It is nice to see that at least one Kerry supporters found fit to comment and to do so in a gracious manner. I greatly appreciate that.

[madfloridian]

17. That was outstanding.

That is how to talk to Timmy. He was very good and very powerful.

Can't wait to see what he has to say on Larry King Wednesday.

[slinkerwink]

19. same here too!

[BootinUp]

18. I enjoyed watching Dean on MTP

carefully and thoroughly dismantling Bush's case for war in Iraq. And he did a good job of expressing support for Kerry. Thank You Gov. Dean!

[madfloridian]

51. He made it clear he is a party player.

:hi:

[Northwind]

20. GO DEAN

wOOt!

[chocolateeater]

22. He did great!

He demolished The Bushleague arguments in 5 minutes. He was also supportive of Kerry and showed his sense of humor in answering the questions.O8) :bounce:
:toast: to Gov. Howard Dean.

[zulchzulu]

23. Howard kicked butt!

He did really well. Did some major swinging for Kerry too. He seemed much more relaxed and confident as well.

It looks like he's going to get that Sec. of Health/Human Services gig.

[w4rma]

25. I don't think that cabinet position is political enough.

Dean is best at the front lines and that position usually gets no attention at all. It also doesn't play to his strengths, imho.

[Guaranteed]

29. I agree. I like the party chair idea. nt

[union_maid]

39. Just what I was saying on another thread

He could make the biggest difference if it was something that involved energizing the people.

[union_maid]

24. He did great!

It was a wonderful appearance! I'm very interested to see what his plans for his organization are. It sounds like something that's going to be very beneficial for the Democrats and for the country.

[JI7]

26. russert is a total whore

dean did a good job of showing he can have differences with kerry but at the same time knowing kerry would be a lot better on just about all issues than gwbush. and what's with these stupid questions they always ask democrats like the question about a slogan on a bumper sticker.

[janx]

28. Yep, and Dean laughed out loud at Russert when Russert

tried to push the analogy to ridiculous extremes! Did you notice that?

[milkyway]

27. Great job by the Gov. Dean will be a big asset for the Kerry campaign.

He will only grow in stature, and the media will give him a lot of coverage. People will listen to Dean because of his rep as a straight-talking politician, and his supposed negatives of not being Presidential enough won't matter anymore.

It sure was great to hear Dean again. Russert treated him with respect instead of acting like it was an Inquisition. He threw back at Dean a couple of things that Dean said about Kerry during the campaign (which he had to do--it's his job), and Dean dodged them gracefully. The impression I got from Dean was that you fight hard and tough, and when the game's over you shake hands and move on with no hard feelings. Dean: "I won't be captain of the team, but I still want to be part of the team."

[madfloridian]

30. Here is the transcript.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4515556

And this powerful statement:

SNIP...."DR. DEAN: Well, that means we had a great run. We didn't quite get there, and John did. And, you know, God bless him for it. You know, this is a tough business, politics, as I've discovered, and you get out there and you give it your best shot. We did. We think we got a lot of people excited. We got a lot of grassroots people excited, and we're going to talk about that on "Larry King" on Wednesday. But we didn't get to the nomination. We fell short. And I accept that. That's the voters that decided that, and now we've got to move on.

And so now the question is: Are we going to fundamentally change the country? And I think we can. I'm going to work for fundamental change for the country. I don't get to be the captain of the team. That's not what the voters said. John Kerry gets to be the captain of the team. And the question is: Do you want to be on the team and work for change, or do you not? And I do want to be on the team and I'm going to work for change....."

[tameszu]

38. Bless your heart Gov. Dean!

I really think that what the media did in leaning so hard on the race is actually going to work out in their favor.

It ironic: you can say what you want about any given campaign playing dirty, but in the end, it was the media that acted the worst, so I held relatively little animosity against any of the other candidates when mine lost.

Now, having reflected on what we need to do to make progress happen and get Bush out, I frankly love them all, and it's getting much easier and more natural by the day for me to support Kerry wholeheartedly. Go Dean! Go Kerry! Go Clark!

[mzmolly]

45. Thank YOU MF.

Great interview.

:toast: to the good Doctor.

[RichM]

31. 2 weaknesses in Dean's positions here - the idea that Bush might "cut

and run" from Iraq, to gain political advantage going in to the election. It's astonishing that he actually said this - it shows a huge lack of understanding of what Bush is all about. Bush wouldn't pull out of Iraq in a million years - it's very valuable property. The notion that Bush would even consider pulling out is ridiculous -- the rightwing NEVER wants to relinquish military conquests of valuable property.

Which leads to weakness #2: though the question of "Why are we in Iraq" came up in the interview, Dean NEVER mentioned the word OIL. Democrats (except Kucinich) seem to have a congenital inability to pronounce the word OIL and the word IRAQ in the same sentence.

[dsc]

32. Our troops, and that is what Dean said, will be out on June 30

You can count on it. They may go back in on Jan 21 if Bush is reelected but they will be out come hell or high water on Jun 30.

[RichM]

35. No way. Not only are the US bases there constructed to function on a

permanent basis (see for example Chalmers Johnson, "The Sorrows of Empire"), the governing Iraqi Governing Council wouldn't last for one day without US troops, and the Busheviks know it. The idea that they would pull out troops on June 30, and risk absolute chaos and perhaps an Islamic government by July 1, going into US election season -- nope. This will NEVER happen.

[vision]

55. Ah but like Nixon on Vietnam

Bush can say that he has a plan to withdraw the troops and maybe even withdraw a few so that it appears that his plan is "working" That doesn't mean that he will stick to it.

Nixon said that he had a "secret plan" to get out of Vietnam. Nixon said that no more troops would go from America to Vietnam, and they did not they went to Germany and other places first and than went to Vietnam. He kept his "technical" word. I can see Bush doing something similar to make it appear that we are "winning" in Iraq and able to procede to Bush's next goal.

[madfloridian]

33. He may give the appearance of it.

Whatever Bush needs to do, he will do. Dean is quite aware of that.

Dean was not given the opportunity to talk about oil. He did a powerful job on all topics that came up though.

[mzmolly]

41. *We think alike*

;)

Just saw your reply ... but I said the same thing essentially ... though much later :hi:

[Fleshdancer]

34. is it just me, or did Bush overestimate the amount of oil in Iraq?

Didn't the admin originally think that Iraq had enough oil to pay for rebuilding the country? And yet how many billions of our tax dollars have gone into the process?

Granted I don't have the full picture, but with stories about oil peaking, gas shortages, OPEC raising prices to lower demand, it makes me wonder if PNAC over calculated just how much oil Iraq has in the first place. And when the pentagon is actually holding Halliburton accountable for overcharging of various services, it makes me wonder if it's because Halliburton isn't as "needed" for their services of drilling oil as we once thought they were...therefore there's no need to allow them to get away with fleecing the taxpayer.

It's all speculation on my part, but if this war really was just about oil, then something isn't adding up quite right.

[BootinUp]

36. I should probably

read the post you are responding to first ;)

But on the question of Iraqs oil, there apparently was a lot of damage to the oil fields which means they will never get as much oil out of them as they could have with proper care, and planning. There were some stories written about this in major news sources months ago but I don't have any links handy right now.

[RichM]

37. Don't confuse the "amount of oil in Iraq" with the ability to pump the

oil. The latter is a function of infrastructure, pipelines, manpower, security, etc. Sabotage of equipment & pipelines can shut off production even if a zillion barrels is lying there under the oil fields.

[mzmolly]

40. I think Dean feels Bush will give the appearance of a solid democratic

Iraq far before it actually happens?

Didn't watch, but knowing Dean as I do ... I feel this is his position.

[madfloridian]

43. Right, saw what you said above.

Yes, we were thinking alike.

Remember in Dean's PreGridiron speech where he talked about change coming faster and more divisively than the people were ready for?

Bush will do whatever he has to do. And I shiver when I say that.

[mzmolly]

47. Me too MF.

:scared:

[mzmolly]

42. I missed it ! Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

:cry:

Off to read the transcript...

[madfloridian]

44. It will be on CNBC later, not sure of time.

:hi:

[mzmolly]

46. De-Groovy!

Thanks! I'll check out the MTP website now for local times.

:*

[flpoljunkie]

53. Meet The Press repeats at 10PM on CNBC on the East Coast.

[mzmolly]

54. Thank-y...

:hi:

[surfermaw]

50. Dean is something and someone for us to be proud of

Unlike some of the other candidates supporters, Dean should be congratulated on what he said and how he is trying to keep the democrat party togeather and to keep his supporters up and supporting our candidate John Kerry.