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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:52 PM Original message |
Reardon: Media slapping women back into their place. Democrats silent. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. As much as I dislike sexist RW talking points used against HRC... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But every time we go along with sexist attacks against her because we dislike |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Exactly. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Apparently, it is that hard to understand, at least for some people. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
190. Thanks so much for this post. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:56 AM Response to Reply #190 |
198. You're welcome, juajen. Good night! |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #198 |
209. This has been disheartening. I don't even support Hillary, but the casual and overt sexism against |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. sexism is so inherently ingrained that most people cannot recognize it. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. yes. I think of that often when I look at comments here on DU |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Everytime we give in to RW smears against any Dem we show ourselves to be undeserving |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
202. Who is .. |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
206. I forgot that BLM |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Thanks for picking up on the double standard aspect - seems it was lost on some. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Well, see, now you're trying to paint all Obama supporters as going along with sexist attacks... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Why aren't Democrats taking their complaints to the media? Why isn't |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Well, why should WE apologize if it's mostly the Right Wing who's doing it? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. We should not apologize. We should call out the misogynists, and fight sexism, |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. What the hell are Democrats supposed to do about Rush Limbaugh? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
107. High profile Democrats can speak out, and possibly wield some positive |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. You MUST be joking--if there was any way Democrats COULD get him off the air... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. They don't have to get him off the air. They can help to educate people |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Harry Reid had the Senate condemn him for talking about "phony soldiers." |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
182. Well then, where is the outcry from his supporters or HIM? Nowhere.... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. sexism is so inherently ingrained that most people cannot recognize it. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. And in a country where thousands upon thousands of women and girls.... |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 PM Original message |
It's terrible. More should be done to stop it; But it has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
76. But it has everything to do with sexism in this society |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yes it does. Because when we stand silent in the face of the attacks against Hillary |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Bingo and RECOMMENDED ! |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. I agree. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
105. Good post, EmilyAnne. Welcome to DU! Actually, however, |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
117. I couldn't agree more. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
122. Phooey. Women fought for the right to be compete the same as men and |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #122 |
159. That isn't what I'm saying. Of course it doesn't hurt you as a woman to |
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miceelf (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
151. Well |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. I think much of what was called racism was twisted by the media. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
193. Ummm, the attacks I've seen aren't sexist. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
205. EXACTLY what pnwmom said... |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
216. I so agree with you |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. I like Hillary, but just don't want her for president...and I would really |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. She represents many American women |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
188. Amen. nt |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. vile media attacks? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Tweety? Limbaugh? Coulter? Are you wearing blinders? n/t |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. Blinders and ear muffs -- standard cult wear /nt |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. oh, bullshit. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. You don't get it. She's not my candidate. I'm neutral with regard to her and |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Exactly |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Not bull |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
178. Come on. I dislike her policies and past votes as much as anybody here |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
111. I always do when it comes to them. Why would we expect them to behave any differently than they |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Where have you been the past 20 years? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. Remember the 'cleavage' crap in the media |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. typical hillarian BS |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
126. Is this too hard to understand: not all criticism of Hillary is sexist. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #126 |
149. how sweetly condescending. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. Please explain why you think I'm attacking you as sexist? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
147. So it's OK then for your mother, wife, daughter to |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. what a twisted, little, erroneous and deliberately obtuse view you take |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
157. She has a high disapproval rating partly because of honest disagreements with |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #157 |
166. and nothing at all to do with her 35 yrs of experience for change, eh? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #166 |
170. That comes under the heading of "honest disagreements with policy" |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #170 |
203. I honestly do not like or trust her, |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #150 |
168. Because most males cannot cope with the |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #168 |
204. excuse me, but I find that being blunt is sometimes necessary, albeit painful |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #204 |
210. Of course there is no chromonsonal difference.... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. willful ignorance, closed mind, superior to women? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
215. and the Where the tears real--?? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
91. Deleted message |
LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Perhaps you didn't see the thread here yesterday that called 60's feminists "paleo" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Wow. I did miss that thread. The ignorance is so sad, especially |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. I saw that--could bear to rad the comments--coming from DU members |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
189. I didn't see it because I had to leave here for awhile. It's really upsetting. |
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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Definitely talking about Tweaty, NBC, KO and the whole biased NBC crew |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I've been disappointed with Olbermann that he seems to go along |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Maybe even the great Olbermann needs a look in the mirror |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
183. I stopped watching him too. They are enamored with themselves while beating us down |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I stopped watching him |
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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. I have stopped watching also. |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. He's off my fast-shrinking list of fair-minded broadcasters, too. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. KO is sexist. I emailed him |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
153. I can't believe what I'm hearing from Olbermann. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #153 |
184. Me too...had it with him, the party, this place. I hardly come here anymore. |
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Polly Hennessey (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. pnwmom and LisaM |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I saw an article recently quoting some Wellesley students in this regard. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
93. They'll never make it that far. nt |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. And have you noticed the sexist ads. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I don't watch much TV. This is one of the reasons. Too much idiocy. n/t |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
185. The one where a woman candidate is debating a mop? I wanted to smash the screen. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. More and more, I do not recognize the Democratic party. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Nor I. A friend of mine this morning has nicknamed it "The backstabbing party." |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
186. More and more they reveal themselves. |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hillary is the victim... blah blah blah... nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. No. ALL WOMEN are the victims. Even the ones who don't know it. n/t |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. What because Hillary might not be president? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Not at all. Because every time we allow the media -- the Limbaughs, the |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I disagree with you. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Why aren't influential, high profile Democrats -- Gore, Kennedy, Dean, |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
101. You want Gore, Kennedy, and Dean to speak out against conservatives and the GOP? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. No, I want them to speak out against MSNBC, Limbaugh, etc. and the |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. I am not a victim |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. You're lucky if you haven't experienced professional difficulties due to your |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I also won't wear a chip on my shoulder n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You must be young. Get ready for a rude awakening. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Quite young, 40. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I'm glad my sister didn't listen to you before she filed her EOC complaint. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. If she was victimized she should have filed her complaint |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. No, not every woman in a male dominated field has had to deal with sexism. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. There you go. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Show me the male candidate who is mocked for his thick ankles or deep-pitched |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. John Edwards and his hair - Mitt Romney and HIS hair |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #123 |
162. Edwards had cracks made about the PRICE of his haircut, which |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
110. Explain to me why the shows on TV |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
129. What about Ugly Betty? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. Thank you Bicoastal |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Tell me about it. Someone on DU once called me a victim... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I K&R'd it right away! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #110 |
195. I'm curious, femrap, about your comment about the Bureau of Labor |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #195 |
217. That's right.. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Funny - You have a big one right on your shoulder about this issue. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Oh there you are with your witty one liners |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. At least they're witty! nt |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
139. Some women are still in the "please a man, make no waves..... |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
136. You doth protest too much? |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. And therein lies the greatest tragedy of all. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
145. "ALL WOMEN are the victims." |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Do you know how UNinformed you come across when you make comments like that? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
100. Another neanderthal |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Another poor Hillary editorial. I'm really tired of hearing about it. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Why is it ridiculous? Why aren't Democrats standing up against sexist |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Its all about you huh=--how tired you of it all. Shame on you. This is NOT about YOU. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
125. This is NOT all about Hillary either. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. If it's anything to do with sexism and homophobia... |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. Poor you |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
187. and women are really tired of being mistreated and taken for granted...watch the vote disappear. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. The MSM is a problem when they hype Giuliani, distort Dems' position, condone Beck's Katrina comment |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
36. I'm an Obama supporter, but I've gone out of my way to stop gender bashing against Clinton |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Indeed |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. REC |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
41. Media Fawned Over The Historic Moment Pelosi Took Over |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. The media liked her because she's a beautiful woman with beautiful clothes. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
135. Nancy Pelosi is a beautiful woman? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #135 |
161. The MSM practically drooled over her and her designer suits. |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
143. I'm not sure there's not a point being dismissed. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
97. Yeah, and I believe you have a bridge to sell me as well. n/t |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. k&r-The Clinton administration was targeted by a lot of vile, sexist attacks for a long time |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. And what do each of these women have in common? They don't |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Yep-a woman can commit no worse sin than getting "old" or "ugly" |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
115. Oh no....it is NOT a sin.... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
45. I for one will not get over it! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. What a bunch of BS |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Tweety? Limbaugh? Coulter? Just because you don't watch those creeps -- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
103. The OP was about how the Dem party and media in general hated Hillary. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Just because you support Obama doesn't mean its ok to demean Hillary as a woman |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
104. The Huff Post refers to Dems hating women. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. I agree, the Dem Party is wrong |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. No, Hillary is playing the "picking on me" card. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #118 |
128. Wage equity? Day Care? Birth control covered by insurance? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Then go 3rd party. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
112. WoW. The 'cleavage' event? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Are people really this dense? Have they never wondered why the extreme |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
148. Exactly. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #148 |
219. Maybe we could ridicule his ears????? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
62. Democratic Party is the party of women |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
154. I don't think they will realize until it's too late. nt |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #154 |
192. Yes...when it's too late. Taking us for granted again.... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
69. expletive deleted |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
70. OMG! Do you actually believe the nonsense you are posting?!?! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I think the writer was making very good points. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I believe you are sincere |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You know if the Obama campaign complained about racism from the media |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. The Obama camp would never stoop to complaining about |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
131. When has the MSM said a bad word |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Hmmmm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
120. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #120 |
133. Deleted sub-thread |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
73. Calling Hillary on her BS isn't a slap against women, it's a slap against bullshit. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. No, it depends on HOW you call her on it. If you slam her with sexist slurs, |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. The language of sexism |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. And that isn't counting the really nasty ones that get deleted |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
140. She is never good enough ,or strong enough, or soft enough |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
142. So is it OK to discuss all women's cleavage like |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #142 |
163. I don't listen to anybody that talks like that. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Well, I could move to China, too |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. You are looking at symptoms and making a diagnosis of |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. I still feel that some males |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. I appreciate your perspective. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #172 |
179. The "distinct faction of people controlling the media with demands" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #169 |
176. No, the MSM is using people's ingrained misogyny to attack HRC. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #163 |
175. Huh. That's nice. But what would you do if your boss was one of the people |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
88. K&R. Thanks for calling attention to this, pnwmom. Too few people... |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
102. K&R.... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
124. Jay Marvin, our supposedly "progressive" morning host, here in Denver, in talking about |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Unfortunately there seem to be a number of DUers like that, too. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
132. The Clintons have *mostly* done this to themselves via "The Southern Strategy" especially |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
134. "They'll be saying, Put it behind us and let's move on. Get over it." |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #134 |
155. it's so bad, I don't think many women will be able too. nt |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #134 |
181. and they will lose this for us all by taking women for granted. |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
146. I have yet to vote in the tx primaries but my vote will be for Hilary because of my value for women |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
152. Where was this outrage in 2004 when Moseley-Braun was running? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #152 |
165. Sen Moseley-Braun introduced articles of impeachment as she left Congress. I admire her more than I |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #152 |
173. Was she being attacked for her "cackle"? For having thick ankles? Or wide hips? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Self delete. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #152 |
199. Actually it was corporate women who backed her. the NYT would'nt even interview her./nt |
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D-Sooner (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
158. Question |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #158 |
164. Of course it is. As long as you're criticizing her for her record and her |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
177. I'm an Obama supporter. I don't much like Hillary Clinton... |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:10 AM Response to Reply #177 |
191. That's more than we can expect from the Hillarites toward our candidate |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:54 AM Response to Reply #191 |
197. I disagree. I think that if white people were holding up signs at Obama's rallies |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #197 |
220. ..you Hillarites would be screaming about Obama "playing the race card" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:47 AM Response to Reply #177 |
194. Thank you Elrond. I'm always encouraged to meet people like you here |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
180. Thank you for posting this. I have been so upset about this. I won't vote if they do this to us |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #180 |
196. LulaMay, I totally understand where you're coming from. But we'll be |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
200. terrible how many DUers deny or discount sexism |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
201. 80 cents for every dollar. 80 cents for every dollar. 80 cents for every fucking dollar. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
208. As much damage has been done by those proclaiming that all women ... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
211. . |
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greeneyedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
212. Word. I am equally satisfied/dissatisfied with both candidates, but appalled at the misogyny. n/t |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
214. What are these supposed media attacks on Hilllary? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
218. it probably doesn't help, when looking for a woman to hold the mantle of pioneer |
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